AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 21 Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: What’s your plan, keep the deployment permanent? How much is that going to cost taxpayers? Let them help until dc decides they want to fully fund their police department? 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: What’s your plan, keep the deployment permanent? How much is that going to cost taxpayers? What's your plan? B word and complain?
ChiGoose Posted August 21 Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Let them help until dc decides they want to fully fund their police department? What's your plan? B word and complain? If this is such a great solution, why would DC do anything to change it? It’s costing taxpayers over $1 million per day, so if the plan is to wait until DC takes over, why would they decide to spend $365 million per year when you and I get to pay for them to have it for free? 2
SectionC3 Posted August 21 Posted August 21 8 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Any thoughts on the murder free week in our nation's capital? Good news, and just like March.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: If this is such a great solution, why would DC do anything to change it? It’s costing taxpayers over $1 million per day, so if the plan is to wait until DC takes over, why would they decide to spend $365 million per year when you and I get to pay for them to have it for free? WHAT THE ***** IS YOUR PLAN?
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Just now, ChiGoose said: If this is such a great solution, why would DC do anything to change it? It’s costing taxpayers over $1 million per day, so if the plan is to wait until DC takes over, why would they decide to spend $365 million per year when you and I get to pay for them to have it for free? I'm not sure what the long-term plan is here but the experience to date with reducing violence and lawless behavior through arrests and enforcement of the law proves the crime problem is solvable given the will and the resources to do something about it. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 21 Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Good news, and just like March. It's almost September?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: What's there to say? The presence of the feds is working. Law and order is not a Democrat priority apparently. The national crime rate would drop drastically if we imprisoned every American below the 30th income percentile- put em in a nazi style ghetto.. Homicides would plummet if we made handguns illegal. Are those acceptable solutions given the results would be fantastic?
ChiGoose Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: WHAT THE ***** IS YOUR PLAN? Aww, poor guy is triggered We’re talking about what’s happening right now, kiddo. You’re attempts of whataboutism are as pathetic as your inability to answer basic questions about the plan you so ardently support. 1 1
SectionC3 Posted August 21 Posted August 21 3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: WHAT THE ***** IS YOUR PLAN? Maybe go into SE if you’re spending the money anyways. Try that.
ChiGoose Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: The national crime rate would drop drastically if we imprisoned every American below the 30th income percentile- put em in a nazi style ghetto.. Homicides would plummet if we made handguns illegal. Are those acceptable solutions given the results would be fantastic? Well now you’re gonna get the poor guy excited 3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I'm not sure what the long-term plan is here but the experience to date with reducing violence and lawless behavior through arrests and enforcement of the law proves the crime problem is solvable given the will and the resources to do something about it. For the low, low price of $350 million+ annually per city, we can solve crime across the nation 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 21 Posted August 21 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Aww, poor guy is triggered We’re talking about what’s happening right now, kiddo. You’re attempts of whataboutism are as pathetic as your inability to answer basic questions about the plan you so ardently support. So you don't have a plan? Gotcha. 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: The national crime rate would drop drastically if we imprisoned every American below the 30th income percentile- put em in a nazi style ghetto.. Homicides would plummet if we made handguns illegal. Are those acceptable solutions given the results would be fantastic? Like in chicago? Lefties will do anything to support criminals, pathetic.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Just now, BillsFanNC said: The friggin King! 😂 Cope and seethe... I voted for this!! 18 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: If this is such a great solution, why would DC do anything to change it? It’s costing taxpayers over $1 million per day, so if the plan is to wait until DC takes over, why would they decide to spend $365 million per year when you and I get to pay for them to have it for free? How come dc cut their police force?
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 21 Posted August 21 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Well now you’re gonna get the poor guy excited For the low, low price of $350 million+ annually per city, we can solve crime across the nation Frankly I'm skeptical of the validity of that $1 million per day number touted by The Intercept. I'd like to see their data and assumptions. And the first couple paragraphs of the article reads like a propaganda hit piece so there's obviously an agenda in play. We can also argue that if the NG is that expense to deploy in DC then its that expensive at that scale or level to deploy anywhere else for any other reason so why have a NG if you can't use it because its too expensive? That aside, I'm thinking it would be much more effective if the cities hired back most of the cops they let go when the defund the police idea was trendy. Or hire new ones. In DC's case assemble a plan to augment their current police force by an amount equivalent to the National Guard troop count. 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Ask the King why DC mayor Bowser declined the NG, pre approved by Trump, specifically and in writing prior to J6..... He's great at hand waving BS. 1
ChiGoose Posted August 21 Posted August 21 9 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: So you don't have a plan? Gotcha. Like in chicago? Lefties will do anything to support criminals, pathetic. Man, you’re just spiraling at this point, huh? Sure, I have ideas on how to combat crime but they aren’t relevant to whether or not the DC deployment is effective or even for the stated purposes. Even though you are out here defending the deployment, you still can’t answer basic questions about it so you need to grasp for any distraction. ”hurr durr. He lives in Chicago. Hurr durr.” Pathetic. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: Man, you’re just spiraling at this point, huh? Sure, I have ideas on how to combat crime but they aren’t relevant to whether or not the DC deployment is effective or even for the stated purposes. Even though you are out here defending the deployment, you still can’t answer basic questions about it so you need to grasp for any distraction. ”hurr durr. He lives in Chicago. Hurr durr.” Pathetic. You claim to have ideas bit don't list any. Pathetic. Hurr durr Anything Trump does you will cry like a little girl. 4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Ask the King why DC mayor Bowser declined the NG, pre approved by Trump, specifically and in writing prior to J6..... He's great at hand waving BS. He's a partisan hack? 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Man, you’re just spiraling at this point, huh? Sure, I have ideas on how to combat crime but they aren’t relevant to whether or not the DC deployment is effective or even for the stated purposes. Even though you are out here defending the deployment, you still can’t answer basic questions about it so you need to grasp for any distraction. ”hurr durr. He lives in Chicago. Hurr durr.” Pathetic. Why did dc slash their police budget?
ChiGoose Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Frankly I'm skeptical of the validity of that $1 million per day number touted by The Intercept. I'd like to see their data and assumptions. And the first couple paragraphs of the article reads like a propaganda hit piece so there's obviously an agenda in play. We can also argue that if the NG is that expense to deploy in DC then its that expensive at that scale or level to deploy anywhere else for any other reason so why have a NG if you can't use it because its too expensive? That aside, I'm thinking it would be much more effective if the cities hired back most of the cops they let go when the defund the police idea was trendy. Or hire new ones. In DC's case assemble a plan to augment their current police force by an amount equivalent to the National Guard troop count. Totally fair about the actual cost. Until we get hard numbers, it’s going to be an estimate. But the logistics and material behind taking people from plainclothes day jobs, getting them equipped, organizing and deploying them can’t be cheap. Do they get stipends or extra pay when they are activated? Even if it’s half of that estimate, it’s still prohibitively expensive for a long term solution. NG is supposed to be for short term deployments, like disaster response. More about piling up sandbags and providing logistical support than patrolling and crime enforcement. A couple million dollar price tag for immediate help in the wake of a hurricane seems more justifiable than the tens/hundreds of millions for permanent deployment would cost
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 21 Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Totally fair about the actual cost. Until we get hard numbers, it’s going to be an estimate. But the logistics and material behind taking people from plainclothes day jobs, getting them equipped, organizing and deploying them can’t be cheap. Do they get stipends or extra pay when they are activated? Even if it’s half of that estimate, it’s still prohibitively expensive for a long term solution. NG is supposed to be for short term deployments, like disaster response. More about piling up sandbags and providing logistical support than patrolling and crime enforcement. A couple million dollar price tag for immediate help in the wake of a hurricane seems more justifiable than the tens/hundreds of millions for permanent deployment would cost So the numbers you quoted aren't accurate? Shocked I tell you.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Reports suggest that crime, including recent crime waves, in Washington D.C. carries a significant financial burden for taxpayers, although pinpointing an exact, agreed-upon figure is challenging due to various methodologies and factors considered. Here's a breakdown of the estimated costs: Overall crime costs: The aggregate cost of crime in D.C. is estimated to be $3.2 billion annually, according to the House Budget Committee. Crime costs tax payers? What?
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