Trump Declares War on The Drug Cartels--US Military to fight druggies

[aristocrat]

7 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

Obama used drones to kill a US citizen without due process. That was wrong and shameful.

What about all the other drone strikes under him? He was the drone king. 373 if you don’t want to google. Trump has to get his numbers way up to compete with those numbers. 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

33 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

What about all the other drone strikes under him? He was the drone king. 373 if you don’t want to google. Trump has to get his numbers way up to compete with those numbers. 

Do you think the executive branch has too much power? 

[All_Pro_Bills]

38 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

What about all the other drone strikes under him? He was the drone king. 373 if you don’t want to google. Trump has to get his numbers way up to compete with those numbers. 

Not much concern for "due process" back then. A significant number of these strikes were in Pakistan. Not a country we were at war with or one that gave any official permission to the U.S. to conduct airstrikes. The real kicker here is Obama wins the peace prize. 

 

But this was all in response to 9/11 and the effort to track down bin Laden. The public was behind the effort and the administration could use the war on terror as justification when it suited the need. Also, the political divide that exists today didn't exist when Obama was in office. As both Dems and Reps generally all love a good war and being against killing "terrorists" regardless of the amount of collateral damage would get you labeled as unpatriotic. At the time Bush and his neocon crew were running the Republican party so a Democrat President that bombed people wasn't going to get any push back. There's a big difference today as political conflict is extreme on even the most mundane issue.

Edited September 5 by All_Pro_Bills

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

Huh?? How can this happen without those jets being blown out of the sky?? False report? 

 

 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

3 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Huh?? How can this happen without those jets being blown out of the sky?? False report? 

 

 

Lmao they don't have a chance in hell.

 

Look at you cheering for narco terrorists!

[sherpa]

15 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Huh?? How can this happen without those jets being blown out of the sky?? False report? 

 

 

 

It "can happen" because flyovers are not hostile acts, and happen all the time.

If they performed a hostile act as defined by the rules of engagement, they would have been destroyed.

 

See "Libya vs US Navy," or "Operation Praying Mantis," vs Iran. 

[ChiGoose]

2 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

We don't need due process to blow up narco terrorists.

Let’s say I’m president and I say you’re a narco terrorist. Should you get due process? Or can I just blow you up because I said so?

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

14 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Let’s say I’m president and I say you’re a narco terrorist. Should you get due process? Or can I just blow you up because I said so?

Do you think that's how this works?

 

Do you think we don't have military intelligence?

 

 

[Niagara Bill]

It is about time a US president and politicians don't something about drugs, crime, and billions of dollars being taken from citizens. They must also stop the babying of users. No chances. No free needles, no free spaces, no replace a drug with another, no safe haven unless it is in full time treatment. 

 

But, this approach will not last long. Trumps attention span is days. This is most likely an Epstein distraction.

 

His mouth continues to run. Now he bad mouths his buddy in North Korea, and his bestie Putin and of course Modi in India. His mouth is destroying any opportunity to stopping a major war. The Department of War is going to be necessary. He is the diplomatic cause.

 

Nobel is done. The 7 wars he stopped is a pipe dream.

 

I pray he is serious about the cartels. But how can anyone believe this. Stay tuned to Sunday..the wind from the mouth with change direction. 

 

 

 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

15 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Let’s say I’m president and I say you’re a narco terrorist. Should you get due process? Or can I just blow you up because I said so?

Get back to me when these strikes kill an American citizen and not narco terrorists.

[Wolfgang]

8 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

It is about time a US president and politicians don't something about drugs, crime, and billions of dollars being taken from citizens. They must also stop the babying of users. No chances. No free needles, no free spaces, no replace a drug with another, no safe haven unless it is in full time treatment. 

 

But, this approach will not last long. Trumps attention span is days. This is most likely an Epstein distraction.

 

His mouth continues to run. Now he bad mouths his buddy in North Korea, and his bestie Putin and of course Modi in India. His mouth is destroying any opportunity to stopping a major war. The Department of War is going to be necessary. He is the diplomatic cause.

 

Nobel is done. The 7 wars he stopped is a pipe dream.

 

I pray he is serious about the cartels. But how can anyone believe this. Stay tuned to Sunday..the wind from the mouth with change direction. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ChiGoose]

14 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Do you think that's how this works?

 

Do you think we don't have military intelligence?

 

 

So, the thing is, the intelligence isn’t positive you’re a narco terrorist and there is thought that you may be a citizen. 
 

But I think you’re a narco terrorist smuggling enough fentanyl to kill 10 million Americans and your citizenship documents are fake. 
 

So I’m just gonna blow you up. If anyone gets upset about it, I’ll ask the DoD to come up with a post hoc authority for my actions. 
 

Then, maybe I’ll do a press conference announcing that I saved 10 million American lives by blowing up a foreign terrorist. All your buddies will probably cheer, too.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

So, the thing is, the intelligence isn’t positive you’re a narco terrorist and there is thought that you may be a citizen. 
 

But I think you’re a narco terrorist smuggling enough fentanyl to kill 10 million Americans and your citizenship documents are fake. 
 

So I’m just gonna blow you up. If anyone gets upset about it, I’ll ask the DoD to come up with a post hoc authority for my actions. 
 

Then, maybe I’ll do a press conference announcing that I saved 10 million American lives by blowing up a foreign terrorist. All your buddies will probably cheer, too.

Look at you making up scenarios to try and make it seem like blowing up narco terrorists is bad.

 

How pathetic.

[ChiGoose]

39 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Look at you making up scenarios to try and make it seem like blowing up narco terrorists is bad.

 

How pathetic.

You seem like one of those big government liberals eager to believe anything the government says.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

You seem like one of those big government liberals eager to believe anything the government says.

Another pathetic response.

 

Says the guy who agreed with covid lock downs and believes Biden was sharp as a tack.

 

 

 

[ChiGoose]

You gotta love when they just admit they have no response so they have to do whataboutism. Any actual introspection or critical thinking may lead to them disagreeing with Dear Leader, and the resulting cognitive dissonance might be fatal, so they just keep drinking the Juche. 

 

It's like clockwork.

[Wolfgang]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

You gotta love when they just admit they have no response so they have to do whataboutism. Any actual introspection or critical thinking may lead to them disagreeing with Dear Leader, and the resulting cognitive dissonance might be fatal, so they just keep drinking the Juche. 

 

It's like clockwork.

 

 

 

Try not to OD...

 

 

 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

You gotta love when they just admit they have no response so they have to do whataboutism. Any actual introspection or critical thinking may lead to them disagreeing with Dear Leader, and the resulting cognitive dissonance might be fatal, so they just keep drinking the Juche. 

 

It's like clockwork.

Look like someone's spiraling.

[All_Pro_Bills]

14 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

You gotta love when they just admit they have no response so they have to do whataboutism. Any actual introspection or critical thinking may lead to them disagreeing with Dear Leader, and the resulting cognitive dissonance might be fatal, so they just keep drinking the Juche. 

 

It's like clockwork.

I think you're hung up on the process and not focusing on the goal which is results. The goal is to stop the flow of drugs. For 40+ years we played a game of pretend. The government pretends its working and the public pretends to believe it. Meanwhile, the drugs and money keep flowing.

 

So let's apply some logic. That wasn't a fishing boat. The film shows a vessel with 3 big outboards capable of generating high speeds. That's not a general attribute of a boat designed to fish. Our Navy guys with experience at sea can figure this out. You want to question their judgment or their actions? Go ahead.

 

And then there's reality and results. I'll wager running drugs in high speed water craft is off the table going forward. As far as legal authority? Who cares? Sue us. Bring charges to the International Court. The US Navy can do pretty much whatever they want to here. Or anywhere. Who's going to stop them? The Venezuelan military isn't going to stop them. Our military could destroy their entire offensive capacity in what might be a day or two. Maybe that gives the go signal to dissidents to overthrow Maduro? Another positive.

 

And the Cartels? If they engage, or likely when they engage, and kill American service personnel or execute terror attacks on US soil the response will be an overwhelming show of force that will green light operations to take them all out.

 

Another target should be taking out all the bankers, financiers, and middlemen moving money around for the cartels. That includes any Chinese gangs running money laundering operations in the US, Canada, and Mexico.

 

It makes no sense to build the military capability of full spectrum dominance and then be afraid to use it when necessary. And in this battle against the cartels its necessary. Its not about due process, or the constitution, or some judge issuing injunctions. Its a military operation bound by specific rules of engagement and apparently one of those rules is that its acceptable to take out a high speed power boat running drugs. Unless anyone wants to suggest they were out on a sightseeing tour there's nothing more here.

 

 

 

 

[Wolfgang]

The support for the cartels to continue their business uninterrupted is not surprising...