Training Camp Day 2 July 24, 2025

[Pete]

56 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

Tasker became a Bills legend as the gunner and developed into a useful WR.

89 belongs in the Hall of Fame.  I let him know when I call WGR

[Ethan in Cleveland]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They kept 9 OL last year. I can't see them wanting to let any of those 9 go, especially when the rules require you have to have 8 up on gameday. They kept 5 linebackers (some years have kept 6) and again because of what you need for special teams I don't see a world where keeping only 4 makes sense. 

 

They will keep:

2 QBs, 1 FB, 3 RBs, 5 WRs, 3 TEs, 9 OL, 8 DL, 5 LBs, 9 DBs, 3 STs - as a minimum. That gets you to 48. 

 

I think it leaves you 5 spots to allocate between WR, DL, DB and any wildcard you don't want to lose at another spot. 

This is moslty accurate.

3 STs is really PK, P, and LS so it leaves off gunner and return guy. 

They have never carried 8 DL and I was pilloried earlier this summer for suggesting they go light on DL until the PED cheats come back. 

I agree 5 LBs seems about right. 

I honestly would be happy with 6 WR and let Shakir field punts. Codrington can't play defense and kick and punt return is not that critical. Gunner is probably the most important 4th special team player. Hopefully one of the rookies can sieze that spot. 

Lastly I think they keep an extra DB as I suggested earlier this Spring. They have huge question marks all over the defensive backfield if you include Benford's concussion history. Id keep an extra DB and an extra safety. Really like the kid Hancock out of Ohio State as a guy that can challenge Lewis as the third safety. Honestly though I have not heard a single thing about him since draft day. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

14 hours ago, NewEra said:

It looks like James Cook has added some good weight.  He keeps getting stronger. I expect a monster season from this kid if our OL play continues its play.  

Beane messed up paying Bernard and not Cook. No reason to sign Bernard to a long term deal. He had a down year last year and its still unclear if he can stay healthy long term at his size.  I rarely defend McD but he's proven he can mostly plug and play a young MLB in his defense. 

100% agree with Benford, Shakir, Brown, and Rousseau deals. Those were all very good deals for both Bills and the players. 

If you want to be super cut throat you franchise Cook next year and then let him walk. 

Sadly Im afraid it may come down to two contracts for my favorite players - Knox and Cook. Knox is going to need to take a massive paycut to stay. 

[3rdand12]

21 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Yes! This! What I have always found is that football games and championships are won with players who get the most mentions during training camp! It is impossible for any team to win a championship without mentions!

I have proven out this theory on more than one drunken occasion with pictograms.

Thank you

[3rdand12]

10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They kept 9 OL last year. I can't see them wanting to let any of those 9 go, especially when the rules require you have to have 8 up on gameday. They kept 5 linebackers (some years have kept 6) and again because of what you need for special teams I don't see a world where keeping only 4 makes sense. 

 

They will keep:

2 QBs, 1 FB, 3 RBs, 5 WRs, 3 TEs, 9 OL, 8 DL, 5 LBs, 9 DBs, 3 STs - as a minimum. That gets you to 48. 

 

I think it leaves you 5 spots to allocate between WR, DL, DB and any wildcard you don't want to lose at another spot. 

You can't have too many DBs , is an old Coach phrase that some might agree with 

I want another WR in this scheme if Brady repeats his mantra

Gilliam and 3RBs fits that nicely as well. Especially the 3 Bills have 😍
I wonder if Hoecht scores as DL or LB.

We can PS a few DBs i might hope

6 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

This is moslty accurate.

3 STs is really PK, P, and LS so it leaves off gunner and return guy. 

They have never carried 8 DL and I was pilloried earlier this summer for suggesting they go light on DL until the PED cheats come back. 

I agree 5 LBs seems about right. 

I honestly would be happy with 6 WR and let Shakir field punts. Codrington can't play defense and kick and punt return is not that critical. Gunner is probably the most important 4th special team player. Hopefully one of the rookies can sieze that spot. 

Lastly I think they keep an extra DB as I suggested earlier this Spring. They have huge question marks all over the defensive backfield if you include Benford's concussion history. Id keep an extra DB and an extra safety. Really like the kid Hancock out of Ohio State as a guy that can challenge Lewis as the third safety. Honestly though I have not heard a single thing about him since draft day. 

No to Shakir returning anything lol .
Very sorry to read you were pilloried. Sounds just awful

 Go Bills

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

You can't have too many DBs , is an old Coach phrase that some might agree with 

I want another WR in this scheme if Brady repeats his mantra

Gilliam and 3RBs fits that nicely as well. Especially the 3 Bills have 😍
I wonder if Hoecht scores as DL or LB.

We can PS a few DBs i might hope

No to Shakir returning anything lol .
Very sorry to read you were pilloried. Sounds just awful

 Go Bills

Lol...im a drama queen...

[BearNorth]

20 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Lastly I think they keep an extra DB as I suggested earlier this Spring. They have huge question marks all over the defensive backfield if you include Benford's concussion history. Id keep an extra DB and an extra safety. 

Given McD's like for "smart" players, could this mean Wande Owens [Yale grad] gets a shot? - ridiculous hops - 43" vertical 11'-3" broad jump. Has experience as both a CB and box Safety.