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8 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

And it's a nice name. 

 

Parents just don't name girls Sue anymore 🤷‍♂️

 

Or Lisa 

 

Only the ones hoping for a lawyer still hand out that name.  😉 

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Great article discussing restrained strength by Trump and Netanyahu:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-the-west-got-the-israel-iran-war-so-wrong/ar-AA1HKxB7?cvid=736b41af24c9486c8595b5596289c88c&ocid=hpmsn

 

"In the early days of this overt round of the ongoing Israel-Iran combat, pundits and prognosticators lined up with remarkable confidence to deliver their verdicts: the Middle East was on the brink of a full-blown regional war. From CNN panels to X threads, from Instagram reels to endless political press briefings, the narrative seemed set in stone.".......

 

"Yet here we stand, 12 days later. No Arab nation has joined the fray. The Strait of Hormuz remains open. No ground invasion of Iran has occurred. The oil markets remain remarkably steady. Tehran has neither launched a regional war nor exacted the cataclysmic reprisals so confidently predicted."

 

"This is the paradox many in the West struggle to accept: restrained power can be more humane than endless diplomacy. Especially when that diplomacy serves only to delay the inevitable, embolden aggressors and paralyse allies.

So let us say it clearly: what Netanyahu and Trump achieved in these 12 days was not a miracle. It was leadership. It was clarity. It was Churchillian – not in theatrics but in knowing when to act, and when not to. And in doing so, they rewrote the forecasts. No mass war. No Arab uprising. No oil collapse. Israel no longer threatened with elimination by its most powerful nemesis."

 

Full credit to Trump and the Israelis on this one, and thanks for showing some old fashioned leadership against bullies.  Now if Trump could realize this approach to Putin...

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9 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

Great article discussing restrained strength by Trump and Netanyahu:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-the-west-got-the-israel-iran-war-so-wrong/ar-AA1HKxB7?cvid=736b41af24c9486c8595b5596289c88c&ocid=hpmsn

 

"In the early days of this overt round of the ongoing Israel-Iran combat, pundits and prognosticators lined up with remarkable confidence to deliver their verdicts: the Middle East was on the brink of a full-blown regional war. From CNN panels to X threads, from Instagram reels to endless political press briefings, the narrative seemed set in stone.".......

 

"Yet here we stand, 12 days later. No Arab nation has joined the fray. The Strait of Hormuz remains open. No ground invasion of Iran has occurred. The oil markets remain remarkably steady. Tehran has neither launched a regional war nor exacted the cataclysmic reprisals so confidently predicted."

 

"This is the paradox many in the West struggle to accept: restrained power can be more humane than endless diplomacy. Especially when that diplomacy serves only to delay the inevitable, embolden aggressors and paralyse allies.

So let us say it clearly: what Netanyahu and Trump achieved in these 12 days was not a miracle. It was leadership. It was clarity. It was Churchillian – not in theatrics but in knowing when to act, and when not to. And in doing so, they rewrote the forecasts. No mass war. No Arab uprising. No oil collapse. Israel no longer threatened with elimination by its most powerful nemesis."

 

Full credit to Trump and the Israelis on this one, and thanks for showing some old fashioned leadership against bullies.  Now if Trump could realize this approach to Putin...

 

Nothing screams foreign policy genius like a flashy airstrike that delays Iran's nuke program by a few months, rattles the whole region, and rebrands ‘mission accomplished’ for MAGA cosplay. But sure, if the real goal was to look tough on cable news while Iran quietly rebuilds and your base loses healthcare, then yeah... mission very much accomplished.

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3 minutes ago, Homelander said:

Nothing screams foreign policy genius like a flashy airstrike that delays Iran's nuke program by a few months, rattles the whole region, and rebrands ‘mission accomplished’ for MAGA cosplay. But sure, if the real goal was to look tough on cable news while Iran quietly rebuilds and your base loses healthcare, then yeah... mission very much accomplished.

 

Try "indefinitely."  Again, they try to rebuild it, we bomb it again.  And again.  And again.

 

As for "rattling the whole region," yep.  That was the point.  

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3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Try "indefinitely."  Again, they try to rebuild it, we bomb it again.  And again.  And again.

 

As for "rattling the whole region," yep.  That was the point.  

 

Definitely sounds like the pro-peace ticket - just keep bombing indefinitely and hope no one notices it’s basically the Bush Doctrine in a MAGA hat. Nothing says diplomacy like an endless loop of explosions and zero strategy for what comes next. You voted for that right

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3 minutes ago, Homelander said:

Definitely sounds like the pro-peace ticket - just keep bombing indefinitely and hope no one notices it’s basically the Bush Doctrine in a MAGA hat. Nothing says diplomacy like an endless loop of explosions and zero strategy for what comes next. You voted for that right

 

It is pro-peace.  Where do you see war breaking out?

 

You guys are just pissed that your side's appeasement didn't work.  Because the only thing they understand is brute force.

 

2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

One wonders why excavation equipment and a crane would be at a location that was "obliterated."

You had fake science.  Now you have fake peace.  

 

Brilliant observation.  I never saw excavation equipment or cranes at the WTC...

 

And yes, paper/cloth mask, 6 feet and riots not being super-spreader event sure was "real" science.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Doc said:

It is pro-peace.  Where do you see war breaking out?

 

You guys are just pissed that your side's appeasement didn't work.  Because the only thing they understand is brute force.

 

Before the so-called ‘pro-peace’ candidates came along, when exactly was the last time the US bombed inside Iran?

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15 minutes ago, Doc said:

Brilliant observation.  I never saw excavation equipment or cranes at the WTC...

 

And yes, paper/cloth mask, 6 feet and riots not being super-spreader event sure was "real" science.

on e was in Manhattan.  One was in an isolated mountain in Iran.  See the difference?

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Just now, Homelander said:

Before the so-called ‘pro-peace’ candidates came along, when exactly was the last time the US bombed inside Iran?

 

Were you around during Trump's first term?  This is what he did during it.  Outside or inside doesn't matter.

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Just now, Doc said:

 

Were you around during Trump's first term?  This is what he did during it.  Outside or inside doesn't matter.

"Doc" is applying the Trumpian Lysol theory to geopolitics, it seems.  

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Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

on e was in Manhattan.  One was in an isolated mountain in Iran.  See the difference?

 

No.  That "isolated mountain" was housing nuclear facilities.  You think they're just going to say "well, it's obliterated, we're just going to leave it alone forever"?

Posted
1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Some parenteral lysol might do Doc some good.

Outstanding point.  He should test his Lysol theory on himself.  Hose down the innards with a little early morning breeze scent and see what happens.  

Just now, Doc said:

 

No.  That "isolated mountain" was housing nuclear facilities.  You think they're just going to say "well, it's obliterated, we're just going to leave it alone forever"?

That's kind of what happens to stuff obliterated beneath a mountain.  Prime real estate, however, is to be recovered.  

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Posted
3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

"Doc" is applying the Trumpian Lysol theory to geopolitics, it seems.  

 

2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Some parenteral lysol might do Doc some good.

 

Funny considering you never took Biden at his word when he said he'd "shut down the virus" and didn't come close to it.

Posted
1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

No.  That "isolated mountain" was housing nuclear facilities.  You think they're just going to say "well, it's obliterated, we're just going to leave it alone forever"?

admit it.  you needed to look up "parenteral"...

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Were you around during Trump's first term?  This is what he did during it.  Outside or inside doesn't matter.

 

Oh, it matters a lot. The US had never struck inside Iran until now. So let’s drop the fantasy that Trump’s so-called ‘Middle East peace’ was anything more than a PR stunt wrapped in a campaign bullet point, just like peace through strength.

 

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Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

admit it.  you needed to look up "parenteral"...

It's gotta be hard for him to look anything up given the copious amounts of fresh linen scent he's spraying in his eyes.  Hopefully he can still see enough of the medicine cabinet to get the HCQ and zinc in his system.  

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