Ross Tucker interview of Michael Hoecht

[Mr. WEO]

20 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Hoecht said he put his faith in someone who didn't have his best interest at heart.  What if that's a true statement?  What's the problem with articulating that?  He also said (multiple times) that it was his mistake.  

 

Without evidence to the contrary, I chose to take him at his word.  

 

I agree about Tucker, though.  He looks small.

 

Then he's the dumbest guy in the NFL and shouldn't be on the roster for that reason.

 

Everyone who has gotten caught the past 10 years has claimed this.  For this reason, it's just not a credible defense.  No player would simply take something some trainer or what not handed him and said, "don't worry, it's ok".  Most of these guys can read, so, if they were really not sure what was in the drugs they were given, they could easily find out.  Why would they leave their fate in the hands of some pusher?   Accepting responsibility isn't accomplished by blaming someone else (who is this person he's blaming anyway?). 

 

It's just not believable he didn't know what he put in his body.  Zero point zero chance.

[Mike in Horseheads]

12 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Then he's the dumbest guy in the NFL and shouldn't be on the roster for that reason.

 

Everyone who has gotten caught the past 10 years has claimed this.  For this reason, it's just not a credible defense.  No player would simply take something some trainer or what not handed him and said, "don't worry, it's ok".  Most of these guys can read, so, if they were really not sure what was in the drugs they were given, they could easily find out.  Why would they leave their fate in the hands of some pusher?   Accepting responsibility isn't accomplished by blaming someone else (who is this person he's blaming anyway?). 

 

It's just not believable he didn't know what he put in his body.  Zero point zero chance.

That might be a reach that most of them can read !   Agree on the trainer defense,  ya never see them getting fired  when these things come out

Edited 19 hours ago by Mike in Horseheads

[dave mcbride]

18 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Then he's the dumbest guy in the NFL and shouldn't be on the roster for that reason.

 

Everyone who has gotten caught the past 10 years has claimed this.  For this reason, it's just not a credible defense.  No player would simply take something some trainer or what not handed him and said, "don't worry, it's ok".  Most of these guys can read, so, if they were really not sure what was in the drugs they were given, they could easily find out.  Why would they leave their fate in the hands of some pusher?   Accepting responsibility isn't accomplished by blaming someone else (who is this person he's blaming anyway?). 

 

It's just not believable he didn't know what he put in his body.  Zero point zero chance.

Hoecht can certainly read: https://brownbears.com/sports/football/roster/michael-hoecht/9698

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Hoecht can certainly read: https://brownbears.com/sports/football/roster/michael-hoecht/9698

 

no doubt--that only leaves that he's a liar in blaming someone else.  But he's not a very good one.  Brown couldn't teach him to be more clever it seems.

[Don Otreply]

20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

no doubt--that only leaves that he's a liar in blaming someone else.  But he's not a very good one.  Brown couldn't teach him to be more clever it seems.

Nah, he just fuh ked up his micro dosing scheme, so he goes through the league endorsed apology routine, he’ll be back at the pharmacy in no time, nothing to see here, move along…, 

[hondo in seattle]

On 5/30/2025 at 10:12 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

Then he's the dumbest guy in the NFL and shouldn't be on the roster for that reason.

 

Everyone who has gotten caught the past 10 years has claimed this.  For this reason, it's just not a credible defense.  No player would simply take something some trainer or what not handed him and said, "don't worry, it's ok".  Most of these guys can read, so, if they were really not sure what was in the drugs they were given, they could easily find out.  Why would they leave their fate in the hands of some pusher?   Accepting responsibility isn't accomplished by blaming someone else (who is this person he's blaming anyway?). 

 

It's just not believable he didn't know what he put in his body.  Zero point zero chance.

 

Three things...

First, we should never underestimate the gullibility of football players.  Remember when Manti Te'o of Notre Dame said on national TV that his girlfriend died on the same day as his grandma?  But later it was discovered poor Manti was the victim of a catfishing scam and his online gf never existed?  Players believe dumb things sometimes. 

Second, I believe in the America value of the presumption of innocence.   The reason everyone caught doping says they didn't know is because it's plausible.  Some athletes don't know; some pretend they didn't know.   Maybe a respected trainer or older veteran (not a sneaky lowlife "pusher") gave Hoecht some supps.  In any case, I've seen so many people suffer from false accusations that I choose to give people the benefit of the doubt when there is no/little track record of misbehavior.  

 

Third, many supps include unlisted ingredients.  You suggest that Hoecht should have read the label.   But one published study found that of 3,132 dietary supplements examined, 875 (28%) had undeclared substances including anabolic steroids. and sibutramine.  

 

 pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9054437/