Bills Rookies and Wings…

[BillsFanForever19]

On 5/23/2025 at 8:42 AM, strive_for_five_guy said:

 Don’t count out Jackson Hawes.  This guy is gonna be a force.

 

He's the replacement for Quintin Morris. A Blocking TE like Morris before him and like Lee Smith before that. If you're saying "a force" as in like they were, sure. But I wouldn't be expecting much on the stats sheet.

 

On 5/23/2025 at 7:23 PM, MJS said:

What's funny about it? Blue cheese is better. Just a fact of life.

 

I'm guessing he believes the people who are outraged over people using Ranch instead of Blue Cheese say they are mostly in jest. I generally hope that's the case too. Like who legitimately judges people based on their choice of dipping sauce for Chicken? City of Good Neighbors but we draw the line at someone preferring a different sauce? 😄

Edited 19 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[strive_for_five_guy]

3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He's the replacement for Quintin Morris. A Blocking TE like Morris before him and like Lee Smith before that. If you're saying "a force" as in like they were, sure. But I wouldn't be expecting much on the stats sheet.

 

 

Think he’s going to be Lee Smith but with some actual receiving upside.  Our Butch Rolle.

[Sierra Foothills]

When you watch Hawes play he's not like any other TE who played for the Bills that I can remember.

 

Lee Smith was essentially a tackle playing tight end. He must have been around 300 lbs.

 

Hawes is standard-sized but he hits people at a high rate of speed. In that regard he's more similar to Sam Gash than anyone else

 

He's gonna be deadly on wham blocks... he lights people up.

 

[BillsFanForever19]

10 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

 

Think he’s going to be Lee Smith but with some actual receiving upside.  Our Butch Rolle.

 

Not to be a jerk - but what leads you to believe he has "actual receiving upside"? More than Lee Smith, sure. But that's not saying much of anything. There were probably Offensive Lineman that had more Receiving upside than Lee Smith. And considering Butch Rolle's highest career totals were 13 catches (1992), 67 yards (1993), and 3 TD's (1990) - that's also not saying much. And I don't think anyone called Lee Smith or Butch Rolle "a force".

 

Through 4 years in College at Yale and Georgia Tech, Hawes averaged 12 catches for 141 yards and 1.5 TD's a year. His career highs in College were 16 catches (2024), 195 yards (2024), and 4 TD's (2022).

 

Quintin Morris' stats coming out of College at Bowling Green were an average of 10 catches, 382 yards, and 3.25 TD's a year. His career highs in College were 12 catches (2018 and 2019), 649 yards (2019), and 7 TD's (2018). 

 

Hawes will be replacing Quintin Morris' role on the team. Coming out of College, Morris had shown more ability as a Receiver than Hawes did. And we saw what he brought to the table as a Receiving option for the Bills.

 

I think if you're saying Hawes be a force as a Blocker and a better Blocker than Morris was - that's fair. And i'd love for him to exceed expectations, just like any Bills player. But I'm just not seeing the Receiving upside that you and others have said he has or much more of a Receiving role than Morris had with us. Even his biggest supporters in the Draft said he's a great "Blocking TE". If teams thought he had real upside as a Receiver while being as good as he is as a Blocker from the TE position, he wouldn't have lasted to the bottom of the 5th Round.

Edited 5 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[3rdand12]

21 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Try old bay with some honey and butter to help it stick 

 

Soo good

I just can't.

Live in Rochester and Skips meat market now has a fine dry rub for wings that I just HAVE to use lately.

Sure like the honey and butter idea

[strive_for_five_guy]

55 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Not to be a jerk - but what leads you to believe he has "actual receiving upside"? More than Lee Smith, sure. But that's not saying much of anything. There were probably Offensive Lineman that had more Receiving upside than Lee Smith. And considering Butch Rolle's highest career totals were 13 catches (1992), 67 yards (1993), and 3 TD's (1990) - that's also not saying much. And I don't think anyone called Lee Smith or Butch Rolle "a force".

 

Through 4 years in College at Yale and Georgia Tech, Hawes averaged 12 catches for 141 yards and 1.5 TD's a year. His career highs in College were 16 catches (2024), 195 yards (2024), and 4 TD's (2022).

 

Quintin Morris' stats coming out of College at Bowling Green were an average of 10 catches, 382 yards, and 3.25 TD's a year. His career highs in College were 12 catches (2018 and 2019), 649 yards (2019), and 7 TD's (2018). 

 

Hawes will be replacing Quintin Morris' role on the team. Coming out of College, Morris had shown more ability as a Receiver than Hawes did. And we saw what he brought to the table as a Receiving option for the Bills.

 

I think if you're saying Hawes be a force as a Blocker and a better Blocker than Morris was - that's fair. And i'd love for him to exceed expectations, just like any Bills player. But I'm just not seeing the Receiving upside that you and others have said he has or much more of a Receiving role than Morris had with us. Even his biggest supporters in the Draft said he's a great "Blocking TE". If teams thought he had real upside as a Receiver while being as good as he is as a Blocker from the TE position, he wouldn't have lasted to the bottom of the 5th Round.

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/unexpected-late-round-selections-steal-the-show-during-bills-rookie-minicamp

 

This leads me to believe he has receiving upside.  He reportedly was passing catches everywhere during minicamp.  As for the Butch Rolle reference, I don’t remember him being a receiving stud, but he does have I believe the NFL record of 14 catches in a row that were for TDs.  If Hawes ends up being a TD catching machine and a steady blocker, he will be very popular.  And based on his Wings eating interview, I can already see him being a fan favorite as well.

 

[Buffalo716]

37 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

I just can't.

Live in Rochester and Skips meat market now has a fine dry rub for wings that I just HAVE to use lately.

Sure like the honey and butter idea

Melt down a little bit of real butter and just whisk in some honey it will help the seasoning stick really well and keep them dry 

[BillsFanForever19]

3 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/unexpected-late-round-selections-steal-the-show-during-bills-rookie-minicamp

 

This leads me to believe he has receiving upside.  He reportedly was passing catches everywhere during minicamp.  As for the Butch Rolle reference, I don’t remember him being a receiving stud, but he does have I believe the NFL record of 14 catches in a row that were for TDs.  If Hawes ends up being a TD catching machine and a steady blocker, he will be very popular.  And based on his Wings eating interview, I can already see him being a fan favorite as well.

 

Yeah, I'm sorry, but I'm going to need more than a blip in an article mainly about Kaden Prather saying he was "catching passes everywhere" from Will Rogers and Paxton DeLaurent, in a Rookie Mini Camp filled with UDFA's and unsigned tryout players (like the guys he was catching passes from) before I start thinking he might become a "TD catching machine" during live action.

 

With the role he has combined with what he was in College and where he was Drafted, it's a pretty unrealistic expectation. I'd be here for it, but I see it as a pretty hot take.

 

He's probably not going to get many reps and when he does, his role 9.5 times out of 10 will be that of a blocker and probably won't get much of a look unless a play breaks down (like Morris before him)

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[strive_for_five_guy]

33 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Yeah, I'm sorry, but I'm going to need more than a blip in an article mainly about Kaden Prather saying he was "catching passes everywhere" from Will Rogers and Paxton DeLaurent, in a Rookie Mini Camp filled with UDFA's and unsigned tryout players (like the guys he was catching passes from) before I start thinking he might become a "TD catching machine" during live action.

 

With the role he has combined with what he was in College and where he was Drafted, it's a pretty unrealistic expectation. I'd be here for it, but I see it as a pretty hot take.

 

He's probably not going to get many reps and when he does, his role 9.5 times out of 10 will be that of a blocker and probably won't get much of a look unless a play breaks down (like Morris before him)

Sweet, been looking to stake claim to a hot take