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1 hour ago, Homelander said:

 

I will enjoy my day unlike Ashli, who was misled, exploited, and lost her life for a lie.

You tried that angle already and it ended awkwardly for you—you know, you glitched up, abandoned the subject you thought you thought through

and ended up with you thinking about salad tossing.  

 

But, we did agree on the enjoyment of your day. Let’s move on.

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2 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

I’d take a corpse on strings over a Putin-puppet traitor who guts Medicaid, hands tax breaks to billionaires, raises taxes on working people, and led a mob against his own country.

 

 

Yes, it was a well-kept secret - I’m shocked it caught you off guard. Meanwhile, Biden had a remarkably productive presidency, handed off a recovering economy, and left things on the upswing. Just over 100 days in, and Trump’s already turned it into a dumpster fire. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fact that you think Joe Biden had a "remarkably productive" presidency tells me all I need to know about your opinions.  Unless by "remarkably productive" you're referencing his ability to destroy the southern border.

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3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

The fact that you think Joe Biden had a "remarkably productive" presidency tells me all I need to know about your opinions.  Unless by "remarkably productive" you're referencing his ability to destroy the southern border.

By remarkable productive, he meant Biden staying alive. The bar is that low.

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3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You tried that angle already and it ended awkwardly for you—you know, you glitched up, abandoned the subject you thought you thought through

and ended up with you thinking about salad tossing.  

 

But, we did agree on the enjoyment of your day. Let’s move on.

 

You’ve got nothing but deflection. Predictable.

 

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1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

The fact that you think Joe Biden had a "remarkably productive" presidency tells me all I need to know about your opinions.  Unless by "remarkably productive" you're referencing his ability to destroy the southern border.

 

The 'southern border' - the last refuge of someone who can’t name a single actual policy but still wants to sound outraged. 

 

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3 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

The 'southern border' - the last refuge of someone who can’t name a single actual policy but still wants to sound outraged. 

 

 

Afghanistan withdrawal, inflation, supply chain bottlenecks, high energy prices, a justice department that prioritized criminals over law enforcement, closing the Keystone pipeline to prioritize Nordstream..BLM, Antifa, identify politics.   

 

I mean I could go on for days.  He was a horrible President at best.   At worst he is a treasonous hypocritical traitor to our country. 

 

  

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8 hours ago, Homelander said:

I’d take a corpse on strings over a Putin-puppet traitor who guts Medicaid, hands tax breaks to billionaires, raises taxes on working people, and led a mob against his own country.

 

The majority of America...wouldn't.  And he never led a mob.

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While I am sure they can find some who are unhappy with Trump but of all the people I know who actually voted for him they are all sticking with him for the time being. My biggest complaint is he is not as effective as I wanted but that is to be expected when fighting DC

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39 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Afghanistan withdrawal, inflation, supply chain bottlenecks, high energy prices, a justice department that prioritized criminals over law enforcement, closing the Keystone pipeline to prioritize Nordstream..BLM, Antifa, identify politics.   

 

I mean I could go on for days.  He was a horrible President at best.   At worst he is a treasonous hypocritical traitor to our country. 

 

You 'could go on for days' and yet still not get a single thing right.

 

The Afghanistan withdrawal? Set in motion by Trump.

 

Inflation and supply chain issues? Global problems caused by COVID, not Joe Biden.

 

Keystone? It wasn’t even operational - shutting it down didn’t raise gas prices.

 

And ‘prioritizing Nord Stream’? That’s rich coming from someone defending a guy who literally groveled to Putin on the world stage.

 

You’re not listing facts you’re reciting Fox News.

 

23 minutes ago, Doc said:

And he never led a mob.

 

He did.

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Homelander said:

He did.

 

No, he didn't.  He didn't even go to the Capitol.  He didn't tell them to be violent and in fact told them to "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."  And he certainly didn't tell them to break into the Capitol, without which this is a "mostly peaceful protest" outside.

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28 minutes ago, Doc said:

No, he didn't.  He didn't even go to the Capitol.  He didn't tell them to be violent and in fact told them to "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."  And he certainly didn't tell them to break into the Capitol, without which this is a "mostly peaceful protest" outside.

 

You're right that Trump said “peacefully and patriotically” once in his speech. But that single line doesn’t erase everything else he said and did before, during, and after January 6. 

 

Trump summoned the cult, lit the match, and set them off. Then he sat back and watched the chaos like it was his season finale.

 

Don’t hide behind “he said peacefully” when he spent months lying, told them to fight like hell, and sent them straight to the Capitol. This wasn’t a protest. It was an attack for him.

 

If you’re defending that, you’re not pro-America. You’re pro-Trump no matter the cost.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

You're right that Trump said “peacefully and patriotically” once in his speech. But that single line doesn’t erase everything else he said and did before, during, and after January 6. 

 

Trump summoned the cult, lit the match, and set them off. Then he sat back and watched the chaos like it was his season finale.

 

Don’t hide behind “he said peacefully” when he spent months lying, told them to fight like hell, and sent them straight to the Capitol. This wasn’t a protest. It was an attack for him.

 

If you’re defending that, you’re not pro-America. You’re pro-Trump no matter the cost.

 

 

No he just lives in reality. 

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8 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

You're right that Trump said “peacefully and patriotically” once in his speech. But that single line doesn’t erase everything else he said and did before, during, and after January 6. 

 

Trump summoned the cult, lit the match, and set them off. Then he sat back and watched the chaos like it was his season finale.

 

Don’t hide behind “he said peacefully” when he spent months lying, told them to fight like hell, and sent them straight to the Capitol. This wasn’t a protest. It was an attack for him.

 

If you’re defending that, you’re not pro-America. You’re pro-Trump no matter the cost.

 

 

And yet with all of its intelligence and law enforcement capability and believing the President was calling his supporters to violence it's never been clearly and logically explained why the government was completely unprepared to handle the event. A thinking person might ask why?

 

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

You 'could go on for days' and yet still not get a single thing right.

 

The Afghanistan withdrawal? Set in motion by Trump.

 

Inflation and supply chain issues? Global problems caused by COVID, not Joe Biden.

 

Keystone? It wasn’t even operational - shutting it down didn’t raise gas prices.

 

And ‘prioritizing Nord Stream’? That’s rich coming from someone defending a guy who literally groveled to Putin on the world stage.

 

You’re not listing facts you’re reciting Fox News.

 

 

He did.

 

 

 

You're wrong on so many levels.   Trump did barter the agreement to withdraw troops from Afghanistan by May 1st of that year.  When Biden took over he initially delayed the withdrawal but then pushed forward despite clear signs that terrorist groups were not going to abide by the agreement.    Yes, Trump had reduced the number of troops.  But the absolute cluster F that Biden turned it into was due to his own incompetence.

 

Keystone wasnt the only reason for high gas prices.  But shutting it down when it had the potential to supplement supply issues caused by the Russia/Ukraine war was a bad decision in retrospect.   It may have helped reduce the cost of fuel which did go up under Biden.  

 

Prioritizing Nordstream was also a failure because of what I said above.  You put your eggs in Russia's basket at a time when you had to have known they were going to invade Ukraine and were not going to be in a position to provide you resources.   It was a stupid decision.  You can say its rich all you want based on your opinion of Trump's relationship with Putin.  It doesn't change the fact that it was a terrible decision on Biden's part.

 

You can also say I am reciting Fox News.  The only issue with that is I've never watched it.  

 

 

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5 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

And yet with all of its intelligence and law enforcement capability and believing the President was calling his supporters to violence it's never been clearly and logically explained why the government was completely unprepared to handle the event. A thinking person might ask why?

 

It’s funny you’re asking why the government was unprepared - maybe because you forgot Trump was POTUS?

 

He installed people in key positions to ensure incompetence and chaos. He spent weeks egging on violence, then did nothing to stop it.

 

The real question isn’t why the government was unprepared - it’s why Trump set it all up to fail.

 

3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

You're wrong on so many levels.   Trump did barter the agreement to withdraw troops from Afghanistan by May 1st of that year.  When Biden took over he initially delayed the withdrawal but then pushed forward despite clear signs that terrorist groups were not going to abide by the agreement.    Yes, Trump had reduced the number of troops.  But the absolute cluster F that Biden turned it into was due to his own incompetence.

 

Keystone wasnt the only reason for high gas prices.  But shutting it down when it had the potential to supplement supply issues caused by the Russia/Ukraine war was a bad decision in retrospect.   It may have helped reduce the cost of fuel which did go up under Biden.  

 

Prioritizing Nordstream was also a failure because of what I said above.  You put your eggs in Russia's basket at a time when you had to have known they were going to invade Ukraine and were not going to be in a position to provide you resources.   It was a stupid decision.  You can say its rich all you want based on your opinion of Trump's relationship with Putin.  It doesn't change the fact that it was a terrible decision on Biden's part.

 

You can also say I am reciting Fox News.  The only issue with that is I've never watched it.  

 

You’re conveniently ignoring that Trump’s deal with the Taliban was flawed from the star - especially the part where he negotiated the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners. I’m sure those prisoners did their job creating chaos once Biden took over. Biden wasn’t perfect in handling the withdrawal, but blaming only him for the aftermath is pure spin.

 

As for gas prices, yes, it wasn’t just Keystone, but don’t act like Trump didn’t leave the economy in a horrific state, only to blame Biden when things went sideways.

 

And Nord Stream? It was nearly 99% complete when Biden took office. Approving it was a diplomatic gesture to try and dissuade Putin from invading Ukraine - a move that ultimately failed.

 

Once again, I’ll take what Biden accomplished during his term after inheriting the dumpster fire Trump left behind, especially when you look at the absolute chaos unfolding under Trump 2.0 today.

 

 

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