For the critics of Gitmo

[Johnny Coli]

I've already gotten my Burger King Gitmo II Kids Lunch. It comes in a box shaped like a prison, and inside is a real terrorist figurine, a tiny black pillow cover to put over their heads, a battery, some wires and nipple clamps. I can also opt to have fruit instead of french fries, and that just makes the whole thing a very wholesome experience.

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Classic. Super size me.

[Kelly the Dog]

I've already gotten my Burger King Gitmo II Kids Lunch. It comes in a box shaped like a prison, and inside is a real terrorist figurine, a tiny black pillow cover to put over their heads, a battery, some wires and nipple clamps. I can also opt to have fruit instead of french fries, and that just makes the whole thing a very wholesome experience.

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Nice one, LA.

[Reuben Gant]

I've already gotten my Burger King Gitmo II Kids Lunch. It comes in a box shaped like a prison, and inside is a real terrorist figurine, a tiny black pillow cover to put over their heads, a battery, some wires and nipple clamps. I can also opt to have fruit instead of french fries, and that just makes the whole thing a very wholesome experience.

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Screw scrupples. There is money to be made here. I think there should be a reality TV tie-in, called "Gettin' outta Gitmo," it will be televised to the world, the best confessions will get an uncoditional release determined by worldwide vote.

[VABills]

Screw scrupples. There is money to be made here. I think there should be a reality TV tie-in, called "Gettin' outta Gitmo," it will be televised to the world, the best confessions will get an uncoditional release determined by worldwide vote.

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Sorry but I already have US Patent Office Rights. I'll sell them for 20 million.

 

Nice to have friends in other agencies.

[EC-Bills]

Sorry but I already have Us Patent Office Rights.  I'll sell them for 20 million. 

 

Nice to have friends in other agencies. 

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You're an evil man VA!

[VABills]

You're an evil man VA! 

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No just good.

 

I will of course tithe 10% to the Church.

[EC-Bills]

No just good. 

 

I will of course tithe 10% to the Church. 

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[Terry Tate]

Granted, we do sometimes tortue.

Source?

[boomerjamhead]

Granted, we do sometimes tortue.

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The only people who get tortured regularly are Bills fans.

[CoachChuckDickerson]

I give the prisoners credit for not talking. I sometimes wonder how I would hold up to torture if "the enemy" was trying to get info out of me. I don't think I would last very long to be honest. All they would have to do is threaten harm to my genitals and I would sing.

 

ME: F U scumbag, I'm not telling you a thing.

 

ENEMY: If you do not talk, we will insert destructive phrase here your balls.

 

ME: What do you need to know?

[erynthered]

I give the prisoners credit for not talking. I sometimes wonder how I would hold up to torture if "the enemy" was trying to get info out of me. I don't think I would last very long to be honest. All they would have to do is threaten harm to my genitals and I would sing.

 

ME: F U scumbag, I'm not telling you a thing.

 

ENEMY: If you do not talk, we will  insert destructive phrase here your balls.

 

ME: What do you need to know?

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You sure you're not a fish fan? kitty..........

[Crap Throwing Monkey]

Source?

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Ever read any of beausox's posts?

[Lori]

That's my girl. 

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"Martinez was borrowing a point from Sen. Joe Biden — which is always a dangerous gambit because you never know who said it originally."

 

When Biden talks about running for Prez in 2008, does he honestly think we've forgotten about his last try? (waitaminute... "honestly" might not fit with this subject...)

[ExiledInIllinois]

My Buds at KBR.

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You mean Kill 'em Burn 'em and Run, right?

 

Let's remember, when we do our historical multiplication tables, that everything happening now began somewhere, some time. Take the construction and engineering company Kellogg, Brown & Root, now serving (and feeding) our troops in Iraq in so many overpriced ways. It was founded as Brown & Root in Texas in 1919; sponsored the political career of, and was then sponsored in its search for government contracts by Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson; after being swallowed up by Halliburton, a burgeoning oil-services firm, in 1962, it followed vice president, then president LBJ into Vietnam where it was deeply involved in constructing "infrastructure" - bases and the like - for the U.S. military. As Jane Mayer reminds us in her recent New Yorker article on Halliburton and its former CEO, our present vice president, in those rebellious and sardonic days Brown & Root was known to many American soldiers by the familiar nickname, "Burn and Loot."

 

And so it goes, as Kurt Vonnegut might say. And so it continues to go, as KBR, still part of Halliburton, supports the American effort in Iraq to the tune of multi-billions in support of another vice president with an even closer relationship to the company. What pet names our soldiers in Iraq have bestowed on KBR this time around I don't know, nor do I know who built the "infrastructure" for our first great offshore imperial venture, our annexation and conquest of the Philippines over a century ago, though Filipino columnist Renato Redentor Constantino might well.

 

The war in Vietnam we're re-imagining and arguing over in this presidential season is but a pale shadow of the grisly event itself, and our no less grisly military years in the Philippines, which paved the way for Vietnam, are long gone from American memory, though, as Constantino wants to remind us below, they shouldn't be.

 

And yet it would be incorrect to say that no one remembers this ancient history. Perhaps it's just that the wrong people remember it the wrong way. Take the following recent remarks by former general and would-be viceroy of Iraq Jay Garner, who was quickly replaced by L. Paul Bremer in the early days of our Iraqi debacle:

 

 

"'I think one of the most important things we can do right now is start getting basing rights' in both northern and southern Iraq, Garner said, adding that such bases could provide large areas for military training. 'I think we'd want to keep at least a brigade in the north, a self-sustaining brigade, which is larger than a regular brigade,' he added.

 

"Noting how establishing U.S. naval bases in the Philippines in the early 1900s allowed the United States to maintain a 'great presence in the Pacific,' Garner said, 'To me that's what Iraq is for the next few decades. We ought to have something there ... that gives us great presence in the Middle East. I think that's going to be necessary.'"

 

 

Back in the years between the conquest of the Philippines and the war in Vietnam, the Pacific was sometimes spoken of here as "America's lake" and in the World War II years there was even a tin-pan alley tune with the pop title, "To be specific, it's our Pacific." Somehow, "America's desert" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, and I don't think the title, "To be specific, they're our oil reserves" would fly.

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

I give the prisoners credit for not talking. I sometimes wonder how I would hold up to torture if "the enemy" was trying to get info out of me. I don't think I would last very long to be honest. All they would have to do is threaten harm to my genitals and I would sing.

 

ME: F U scumbag, I'm not telling you a thing.

 

ENEMY: If you do not talk, we will  insert destructive phrase here your balls.

 

ME: What do you need to know?

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Sing what?

 

Kinda of reminds me of my father telling me about the time he was in escape and evasion school. They asked him what is he gonna do if they start pulling his finger nails out? His reply: "Geneva Convention, name rank and serial #... What more do I know?... Anyway (to the higher up asking him the question) they aren't gonna capture me, they are going to capture you!"

 

[Ghost of BiB]

You mean Kill 'em Burn 'em and Run, right?

 

Let's remember, when we do our historical multiplication tables, that everything happening now began somewhere, some time. Take the construction and engineering company Kellogg, Brown & Root, now serving (and feeding) our troops in Iraq in so many overpriced ways. It was founded as Brown & Root in Texas in 1919; sponsored the political career of, and was then sponsored in its search for government contracts by Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson; after being swallowed up by Halliburton, a burgeoning oil-services firm, in 1962, it followed vice president, then president LBJ into Vietnam where it was deeply involved in constructing "infrastructure" - bases and the like - for the U.S. military. As Jane Mayer reminds us in her recent New Yorker article on Halliburton and its former CEO, our present vice president, in those rebellious and sardonic days Brown & Root was known to many American soldiers by the familiar nickname, "Burn and Loot."

 

And so it goes, as Kurt Vonnegut might say. And so it continues to go, as KBR, still part of Halliburton, supports the American effort in Iraq to the tune of multi-billions in support of another vice president with an even closer relationship to the company. What pet names our soldiers in Iraq have bestowed on KBR this time around I don't know, nor do I know who built the "infrastructure" for our first great offshore imperial venture, our annexation and conquest of the Philippines over a century ago, though Filipino columnist Renato Redentor Constantino might well.

 

The war in Vietnam we're re-imagining and arguing over in this presidential season is but a pale shadow of the grisly event itself, and our no less grisly military years in the Philippines, which paved the way for Vietnam, are long gone from American memory, though, as Constantino wants to remind us below, they shouldn't be.

 

And yet it would be incorrect to say that no one remembers this ancient history. Perhaps it's just that the wrong people remember it the wrong way. Take the following recent remarks by former general and would-be viceroy of Iraq Jay Garner, who was quickly replaced by L. Paul Bremer in the early days of our Iraqi debacle:

"'I think one of the most important things we can do right now is start getting basing rights' in both northern and southern Iraq, Garner said, adding that such bases could provide large areas for military training. 'I think we'd want to keep at least a brigade in the north, a self-sustaining brigade, which is larger than a regular brigade,' he added.

 

"Noting how establishing U.S. naval bases in the Philippines in the early 1900s allowed the United States to maintain a 'great presence in the Pacific,' Garner said, 'To me that's what Iraq is for the next few decades. We ought to have something there ... that gives us great presence in the Middle East. I think that's going to be necessary.'"

Back in the years between the conquest of the Philippines and the war in Vietnam, the Pacific was sometimes spoken of here as "America's lake" and in the World War II years there was even a tin-pan alley tune with the pop title, "To be specific, it's our Pacific." Somehow, "America's desert" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, and I don't think the title, "To be specific, they're our oil reserves" would fly.

 

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Hey - they paid my bills for a while.

[RkFast]

You mean Kill 'em Burn 'em and Run, right?

 

Let's remember, when we do our historical multiplication tables, that everything happening now began somewhere, some time. Take the construction and engineering company Kellogg, Brown & Root, now serving (and feeding) our troops in Iraq in so many overpriced ways. It was founded as Brown & Root in Texas in 1919; sponsored the political career of, and was then sponsored in its search for government contracts by Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson; after being swallowed up by Halliburton, a burgeoning oil-services firm, in 1962, it followed vice president, then president LBJ into Vietnam where it was deeply involved in constructing "infrastructure" - bases and the like - for the U.S. military. As Jane Mayer reminds us in her recent New Yorker article on Halliburton and its former CEO, our present vice president, in those rebellious and sardonic days Brown & Root was known to many American soldiers by the familiar nickname, "Burn and Loot."

 

And so it goes, as Kurt Vonnegut might say. And so it continues to go, as KBR, still part of Halliburton, supports the American effort in Iraq to the tune of multi-billions in support of another vice president with an even closer relationship to the company. What pet names our soldiers in Iraq have bestowed on KBR this time around I don't know, nor do I know who built the "infrastructure" for our first great offshore imperial venture, our annexation and conquest of the Philippines over a century ago, though Filipino columnist Renato Redentor Constantino might well.

 

The war in Vietnam we're re-imagining and arguing over in this presidential season is but a pale shadow of the grisly event itself, and our no less grisly military years in the Philippines, which paved the way for Vietnam, are long gone from American memory, though, as Constantino wants to remind us below, they shouldn't be.

 

And yet it would be incorrect to say that no one remembers this ancient history. Perhaps it's just that the wrong people remember it the wrong way. Take the following recent remarks by former general and would-be viceroy of Iraq Jay Garner, who was quickly replaced by L. Paul Bremer in the early days of our Iraqi debacle:

"'I think one of the most important things we can do right now is start getting basing rights' in both northern and southern Iraq, Garner said, adding that such bases could provide large areas for military training. 'I think we'd want to keep at least a brigade in the north, a self-sustaining brigade, which is larger than a regular brigade,' he added.

 

"Noting how establishing U.S. naval bases in the Philippines in the early 1900s allowed the United States to maintain a 'great presence in the Pacific,' Garner said, 'To me that's what Iraq is for the next few decades. We ought to have something there ... that gives us great presence in the Middle East. I think that's going to be necessary.'"

Back in the years between the conquest of the Philippines and the war in Vietnam, the Pacific was sometimes spoken of here as "America's lake" and in the World War II years there was even a tin-pan alley tune with the pop title, "To be specific, it's our Pacific." Somehow, "America's desert" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, and I don't think the title, "To be specific, they're our oil reserves" would fly.

 

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Funny......I dont remember much talk about KBR and Halliburton when Clinton was president.

[KRC]

Funny......I dont remember much talk about KBR and Halliburton when Clinton was president.

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They only became evil when Bush took office.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Funny......I dont remember much talk about KBR and Halliburton when Clinton was president.

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Hey brother I joined this forum in 2002... You would have heard me screaming just the same!

 

I wish the internet took hold another ten years earlier... It would have put all this Clinton whining to rest.

[ExiledInIllinois]

They only became evil when Bush took office.

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Tell yourself that... That is why I put in the history. What about LBJ... And he was a dem?