I'm really starting to love this WR room. We quietly got better

[NoSaint]

12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

So when Diggs was tearing things up averaging 86 yards a game over 11 games with 7 TDs under Dorsey and then became a complete non-factor under Brady I am supposed to believe that he suddenly forgot how to get open?

 

what route combos was he benefitting from that Brady stopped calling? 
 

which of those do you think play well to our current room?

Edited 2 hours ago by NoSaint

[finn]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

 

what route combos was he benefitting from that Brady stopped calling? 
 

which of those do you think play well to our current room?

Every route in the book except wide receiver screen, half back dive, halfback screen, jet sweep, and mesh routes. With Brady and McDermott, you fit into their scheme or you get cut. 

[BADOLBILZ]

24 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

So when Diggs was tearing things up averaging 86 yards a game over 11 games with 7 TDs under Dorsey and then became a complete non-factor under Brady I am supposed to believe that he suddenly forgot how to get open?

 

 

Diggs was getting fed at the expense of the team.  Personally, I thought Dorsey got scapegoated for giving the world what it wants.......Josh Allen throwing the ball all over the field.   But Diggs was getting doubled and that allowed teams to put CB1 on Gabe Davis and make throwing to him extremely unproductive.  The personnel wasn't there to make that the right approach and I thought Dorsey had already begun the changes a couple weeks prior that Brady would further lean into.  They lost that Denver game because of a substitution error by McDermott at the end of the game.   Dorsey got scapegoated but as I said at the time it wasn't a big dropoff and a shot in the arm couldn't hurt.  Brady was capable.  

 

They went from 5-5 at the time and then won 23 of their next 27 meaningful regular season games under Brady.

 

The issue here isn't the OC.

 

Does he have some ineffective calls we hate every week?  Yes, but that only seems like a HUGE problem because the margin for error has diminished as the available talent has.   As impotent as they've looked on the road they might have won those Atlanta and Houston games just having Glass Kincaid healthy.

[Sojourner]

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Diggs was getting fed at the expense of the team.  Personally, I thought Dorsey got scapegoated for giving the world what it wants.......Josh Allen throwing the ball all over the field.   But Diggs was getting doubled and that allowed teams to put CB1 on Gabe Davis and make throwing to him extremely unproductive.  The personnel wasn't there to make that the right approach and I thought Dorsey had already begun the changes a couple weeks prior that Brady would further lean into.  They lost that Denver game because of a substitution error by McDermott at the end of the game.   Dorsey got scapegoated but as I said at the time it wasn't a big dropoff and a shot in the arm couldn't hurt.  Brady was capable.  

 

They went from 5-5 at the time and then won 23 of their next 27 meaningful regular season games under Brady.

 

The issue here isn't the OC.

 

Does he have some ineffective calls we hate every week?  Yes, but that only seems like a HUGE problem because the margin for error has diminished as the available talent has.   As impotent as they've looked on the road they might have won those Atlanta and Houston games just having Glass Kincaid healthy.

Can’t argue with that when the stats say they have most yards on offense in the league @ 4200… 4th most passing yards and 1st in rushing. 
 

The OC isn’t THE issue but he is an issue. Bad play selections at crucial times and downs play a huge part. A bigger part is the turnovers. Clean football was how we get so many wins. 

[Buffalo Ballin]

What a legendary thread.

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Yeah this is maxed out Shakir like I tried to tell @Alphadawg7 last year.

 

He has talent and I like what he offers, but he is not good enough to be a focal point from the slot like a prime Kupp or JSN or ARSB. 

I’ve never said at any point Shakir was a WR1.  Literally never made that claim.  And I’ve never said he should be the focal point either.