dave mcbride Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I was somehow unaware of this. It collapsed in July 2023 and it involves a bad (and badly run) new owner (Champion Gaming, based in Toronto) that didn't pay staff: https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/football-outsiders-aaron-schatz-champion-gaming.html. All of the people who started the site 20 years ago left, including founder Aaron Schatz. Too bad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I guess I should unsubscribe / block sender. Recent email as been junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 A lot of people found this out when they went to prepare for their fantasy football teams this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Yeah I posted about this a few weeks ago. A real bummer. Schatz and Tanier are writing for other sites now and you can still find their weekly content, but FO was a real treasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 https://www.ftnfantasy.com/nfl/tools/team-total-dvoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 9/26/2023 at 11:28 AM, dave mcbride said: I was somehow unaware of this. It collapsed in July 2023 and it involves a bad (and badly run) new owner (Champion Gaming, based in Toronto) that didn't pay staff: https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/football-outsiders-aaron-schatz-champion-gaming.html. All of the people who started the site 20 years ago left, including founder Aaron Schatz. Too bad. Wow, that's a bummer. I remember when they started, they were the only decent stats/data site back then. That and pro-football-reference were my two favorite sites, this one primarily for basis data. pro-football-references started around the same time but wasn't nearly as developed back then as it is today. FO, besides DVOA etc., also had some cool stats that in former years were difficult if not impossible to come by, like average starting field-position for one. Ah well, things run their course, Schatz did great work. Props to him for starting it up before anyone knew what [football] metrics were. Curious to see where he lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 It's basically all moved to FTN, good article on Bills: https://www.ftnfantasy.com/articles/FTN/105892/week-4-dvoa-buffalo-bills-greatest-3-1-team-ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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