Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Nice pics. now do the part that shows the parts with the crime stats I sourced. suburbanite lefties always talking about how the other people should live. LMAO. Crime like gang activity and rioting reduces investment into areas. Now do the same search for 3 blocks over. maybe some Bed Stey? But I thought you said the landed gentry wouldn't want to live in inner cities...do you think maybe Brooklyn is a better place to live with a fattened tax base? Edited February 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: But I thought you said the landed gentry wouldn't want to live in inner cities...do you think maybe Brooklyn is a better place to live with a fattened tax base? NY has been throwing money at low socio economic areas for decades. its pretty much a job program for all the charities/groups that take the cash and claim to help. Go ask them folks in the war zones if its getting any better. https://maps.nyc.gov/crime/ its funny how suburbanites love to talk about how great city living is. And city living is great, if you can afford to live in the good parts and enjoy the bustle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chris farley said: NY has been throwing money at low socio economic areas for decades. its pretty much a job program for all the charities/groups that take the cash and claim to help. Go ask them folks in the war zones if its getting any better. https://maps.nyc.gov/crime/ its funny how suburbanites love to talk about how great city living is. And city living is great, if you can afford to live in the good parts and enjoy the bustle. so what you posted was incorrect... QED Edited February 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 12 hours ago, LeviF said: @Roundybout Then go move there dude. Nothing’s stopping you. I lived downtown in a mid size metro for years, I understand what it is you’re looking for. But those places are vanishingly rare. Once I got married I couldn’t justify making my bride park on the street or take the bus at night considering the, erm, increasing vibrancy of the city and neighborhood. We rented a place on the city’s outer limits for a bit before we bought a house in the burbs. Country club is around the corner, shopping complex is five minutes by car or twenty minute walk. Two parks within a five minute walk from my front door, including the local little league field. I have 1650 square feet on 1/3 of an acre and paid $200k for the privilege. Put up a white picket fence last summer to complete the picture. And my kids can play in the yard or even in the street once they’re older like I used to growing up. Life is good brother. Suburban schools certainly are better. I fully concede that, right now, it is better to raise kids in a suburban area. That's part of my job - to make our cities better. The 15-minute city is designed to improve urban life and return it to what it was at the turn of the 20th century, with the technological improvements of today. 12 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Here you go: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/01/donald-trump-african-american-black-economic-progress-vote-column/6081310002/ Yea he really was a game-changer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Suburban schools certainly are better. I fully concede that, right now, it is better to raise kids in a suburban area. That's part of my job - to make our cities better. The 15-minute city is designed to improve urban life and return it to what it was at the turn of the 20th century, with the technological improvements of today. Yea he really was a game-changer. I’m dying to find out. How is making our cities better, part of your job? Not trying to be snarky…just curious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Suburban schools certainly are better. I fully concede that, right now, it is better to raise kids in a suburban area. That's part of my job - to make our cities better. The 15-minute city is designed to improve urban life and return it to what it was at the turn of the 20th century, with the technological improvements of today. Yea he really was a game-changer. you'd think the trickle down believers would be all in to these programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On urban vs suburbs debate - the answer is neither. I've lived in both and now I live rural and you need binoculars to see my closest neighbor. It's amazing, I could never go back to the cookie cutter development or the disgusting city. Wish I would have made the move sooner but you don't know what you don't know and not growing up in the country it was unknown to me but it's home now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: you'd think the trickle down believers would be all in to these programs Trickle down? like massive corporate welfare labeled as infrastructure and anti inflation legislation? We have been on supply side economics since LBJ put us on them. Edited February 21, 2023 by Chris farley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m dying to find out. How is making our cities better, part of your job? Not trying to be snarky…just curious. Could be policy side, analyst, lobbying, city planning. Of course he’s under no obligation to disclose information about his employment but there’s plenty of jobs where one could find that goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Trickle down? like massive corporate welfare labeled as infrastructure and anti inflation legislation? We have been on supply side economics since JFK put us on them. sometimes u write well and sometimes terribly. I knew u had it in u. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m dying to find out. How is making our cities better, part of your job? Not trying to be snarky…just curious. Well as an urban planner I'm constantly working on projects to provide housing and economic development, especially adaptive reuse of blighted historic structures. We've just put out a request for proposal (RFP) for a 200-unit housing project on a former brownfield site that we hope will anchor the development of a relatively poor, formerly industrial neighborhood. Can't give out a whole lot because internet forum, but yea. Edited February 21, 2023 by Roundybout 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: sometimes u write well and sometimes terribly. I knew u had it in u. and some folks make comments about other people vs the narrative of the thread. it is what it is. Revenue Act of 1964 Proponents of supply-side economics sometimes cite tax cuts enacted by President Lyndon B. Johnson with the Revenue Act of 1964 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Well as an urban planner I'm constantly working on projects to provide housing and economic development, especially adaptive reuse of blighted historic structures. We've just put out a request for proposal (RFP) for a 200-unit housing project on a former brownfield site that we hope will anchor the development of a relatively poor, formerly industrial neighborhood. Can't give out a whole lot because internet forum, but yea. Subsidized? On a brownfield site? you first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 i'm hooked on the HGTV shows that revitalize blighted neighborhoods - Detroit and Indy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chris farley said: On a brownfield site? you first. You know what brownfield means, right? It's been remediated using EPA funds and is certified for human habitation again. You should see the stacks of documents we needed for it! But yes, I am proud that a former miserable wasteland is going to contribute to the area again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: i'm hooked on the HGTV shows that revitalize blighted neighborhoods - Detroit and Indy.... Yeah. I am from Dearborn (Detroit). when they went bankrupt and literally razed the most crime ridden parts of it, it ended up helping long term. should try heading to Detroit and going down past 11th mile. lots of cheap land for sale. Not seeing any new investments in those areas. Now downtown Detroit is very nice. to visit. 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You know what brownfield means, right? It's been remediated using EPA funds and is certified for human habitation again. You should see the stacks of documents we needed for it! But yes, I am proud that a former miserable wasteland is going to contribute to the area again. I know that many brownfields remediation is often found to be insufficient when cancer clusters start. is your home on a brownfield. are the complexes subsidized.. Edited February 21, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Well as an urban planner I'm constantly working on projects to provide housing and economic development, especially adaptive reuse of blighted historic structures. We've just put out a request for proposal (RFP) for a 200-unit housing project on a former brownfield site that we hope will anchor the development of a relatively poor, formerly industrial neighborhood. Can't give out a whole lot because internet forum, but yea. Thanks. I figured that would be it. Are you in the private or public side of urban planning. (My nephew is about to get his Masters degree.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Yeah. I am from Dearborn (Detroit). when they went bankrupt and literally razed the most crime ridden parts of it, it ended up helping long term. should try heading to Detroit and going down past 11th mile. lots of cheap land for sale. Not seeing any new investments in those areas. Now downtown Detroit is very nice. to visit. I know that many brownfields remediation is often found to be insufficient when cancer clusters start. is your home on a brownfield. are the complexes subsidized.. spent some years in Ann Arbor. used to go to Tigers games and paid the "fee" to park and not have my car vandalized. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: spent some years in Ann Arbor. used to go to Tigers games and paid the "fee" to park and not have my car vandalized. We did the same back in the day at the Rockpile. Good times! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Make Detroit farmland again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: We did the same back in the day at the Rockpile. Good times! we used to park in the Sears garage. never a problem but as a little kid I was showered with glass from a rock thrown at the bus from there to the stadium Edited February 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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