OT - Considering Move to Rochester

[FaithfulFan]

Don't let the lack of a major league strip hurt the potential to meet the ladies... a lot!

 

this area is what you make of it...last summer was too rainy-but the area has, like others, good points and bad...

 

What is it you do? do you need work?

[rockpile]

For a sampling, check out City Magazine

 

I like the summer festivals, East End Festivals, Johnny's Irish Pub, Veneto's Pizza, Pommodoro's Restaurant, East Ave and Alexander area, Water Street Music Hall, the Public Market, Charlotte Pier, Little Theatre, Moonbeams, Dinosaur BBQ, Park Ave on a sunny lunch day, Rochester Amerk hockey, Red Wings baseball, the High Falls area, Milestones, free concerts at Manhattan Square Park (from Crash Test Dummies to Dickie Betts, to Taj Mahal), Bills Training Camp, and of course Nick Tahoes Garbage Plates....

 

Short trips to Letchworth Park, Finger Lakes wine trail, Watkins Glen Park or Raceway, Hamlin Beach, Canal Days in Brockport and Fairport, Niagara Falls, Turning Stone Casino, the Erie Canal bike path, canoeing, kayaking, water skiiing, jet skis on Irondequiot Bay, and cross country skiiing in Ellison Park.

 

If I really get bored, I can make it from my driveway to the Lincoln Tunnel in 5 1/2 hours, Alex Bay or Toronto in about three hours.

 

But other than that there really isn't sh-- to do in Rochester.

[SouthernMan]

I never really liked the term "professional." Where's the cut-off, what makes someone professional? And if someone is professional, who are the amateurs?

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A professional is one who doesn't nitpick over semantics and definitions on a football team message board.

 

C'mon, don't be a dick. You know full well what the term "professional" means in this context.

[respk]

One word....Don't.

Rochester will have the economic conditions of Buffalo in 10 years or less. As with most cities, the politicians are more interested in padding their ego, and pockets, and less interested in making the difficult changes necessary to have any chance of rising from the ashes. The city has tied its long term recovery to developing and redeveloping the same areas with the same bars and restaurants with name changes. There is no ingenuity nor any common sense in what is done.

 

The economy never has recovered and is based almost exclusively on service industries. A failure waiting to happen, not a long term solution. The downtown area is very safe as everyone there goes home after 5pm. The city is small and thinks small. They refurbished an age old arena with used seats instead of building anew, as most cities do, even when the money was readily available. They built a very nice AAA baseball stadium only to leave the roof off of most of it. The soccer team has started a soccer stadium that will only be a shell unless the additional funding they are now requesting is approved.

 

Their are some activities and some decent areas, but remember this is a small city. The "Park Avenue" area is but a few blocks. Lake Ontario is virtually ignored. The best beach is never legally open to the public. The beach that is opened is situated in such a way that it has to be closed most of the time during the summer as swimming is deemed to be unsafe due to pollution.

 

Rochester does have one good thing and that is its location. It is easy to get out of the place to other places. The finger lakes, syracuse, niagara falls and buffalo are all about an hour to 90 minutes away. Easy day trips. Summers are nice, but last only July and August hopefully. The rest of the year is cloudy punctuated with the cheers and rejoicing of the populace when a ray of sunshine peeks through. Dreary, well its not the northwest, but borders on in it climate wise.

 

Some say Rochester is what you make of it. They are right. The problem is in other places it takes a matter of minutes for you to make something of it. In Rochester it takes hours to make something of it.

 

JMHO of course.

[BRH]

One word....Don't.

Rochester will have the economic conditions of Buffalo in 10 years or less.  As with most cities, the politicians are more interested in padding their ego, and pockets, and less interested in making the difficult changes necessary to have any chance of rising from the ashes.  The city has tied its long term recovery to developing and redeveloping the same areas with the same bars and restaurants with name changes.  There is no ingenuity nor any common sense in what is done.

 

The economy never has recovered and is based almost exclusively on service industries.  A failure waiting to happen, not a long term solution.  The downtown area is very safe as everyone there goes home after 5pm.  The city is small and thinks small.  They refurbished an age old arena with used seats instead of building anew, as most cities do, even when the money was readily available.  They built a very nice AAA baseball stadium only to leave the roof off of most of it.  The soccer team has started a soccer stadium that will only be a shell unless the additional funding they are now requesting is approved.

 

Their are some activities and some decent areas, but remember this is a small city.  The "Park Avenue" area is but a few blocks.  Lake Ontario is virtually ignored.  The best beach is never legally open to the public.  The beach that is opened is situated in such a way that it has to be closed most of the time during the summer as swimming is deemed to be unsafe due to pollution.

 

Rochester does have one good thing and that is its location. It is easy to get out of the place to other places.  The finger lakes, syracuse, niagara falls and buffalo are all about an hour to 90 minutes away.  Easy day trips.  Summers are nice, but last only July and August hopefully.  The rest of the year is cloudy punctuated with the cheers and rejoicing of the populace when a ray of sunshine peeks through.  Dreary, well its not the northwest, but borders on in it climate wise.

 

Some say Rochester is what you make of it.  They are right.  The problem is in other places it takes a matter of minutes for you to make something of it.  In Rochester it takes hours to make something of it.

 

JMHO of course.

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Man, who peed in your cheerios this morning?

 

The worst thing about this city is the people who complain about it all the time but never do anything to help improve it.

[Alaska Darin]

Man, who peed in your cheerios this morning? 

 

The worst thing about this city is the people who complain about it all the time but never do anything to help improve it.

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That's not a fair statement, unless you know him pretty well. Pretty much everything he says about Rochester is fair. It's a city (and suburbs) filled with really terrific people that is being run into the ground by the 2nd worst political apparatus in the state (and possibly the country).

[crazyDingo]

Think outside the box!

 

Move to Toronto which is clean, buzzing, modern, with a killer nitelife and TONS of beautiful women. You could commute to Rochester on that fancy, ultra-modern ferry I heard they just built. Must be up and running by now, right?

[gantrules]

Think outside the box!

 

Move to Toronto which is clean, buzzing, modern, with a killer nitelife and TONS of beautiful women. You could commute to Rochester on that fancy, ultra-modern ferry I heard they just built. Must be up and running by now, right?

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Actually it starts back up next month.

[beerme1]

Ya, you should look for some action on Lyle Ave.

[Ray]

I grew up there--great place to grow up! Also spent a few summers back there. Can be very, very fun--but I knew a lot of people already. Like many others have said it takes effort on your part and it is what you make of it. Job market is better than Buffalo, but I prefer Buffalo quite honestly. A bigger feel to it, better restaurants, professional teams of course.

Cost of living is reasonable and when it comes down to it if you've got a great job lined up then go for it. Great jobs are hard to find. I would move out of Boston in a heartbeat if I didn't love my job so much. Out of necessity a job many times dictates where you live. I think many of us would love to move to Southern California, but we don't have jobs lined up that pay a million dollars a year to compensate for the high cost of living. Good luck

[BRH]

by the 2nd worst political apparatus in the state (and possibly the country).

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Obviously you haven't spent much time in New Jersey, Connecticut or Rhode Island!

[Drifter]

If you are not set on the Northeast part of the country I would suggest looking at Charlotte. It's mainly a banking town with large suburbs for families. The downtown has improved considerably since I moved here 11 years ago.

The economy is strong the city growing significantly every year. If you have anything to do with the financial world you will find no problem getting a job. There are condos located within walking distance of good restaurants, nightclubs and most office buildings. Johnson and Wales University just opened a campus downtown so the restaurant scene should only improve over the coming years.

The sports scene is good with the Panthers, Bobcats downtown. Almost every Nascar team is based just north of Charlotte and there is the PGA Wachovia Championship.

There are nice choices for weekend getaways. Charlotte is 2 hours from the mountains and about 3 hours from Myrtle Beach.

[Alaska Darin]

Obviously you haven't spent much time in New Jersey, Connecticut or Rhode Island!

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You're right on that count (and thankfully in regards to New Jersey, which may be the most pathetic state in the union) but I grew up outside Rochester and follow the 2 areas closely. It's absolutely amazing how grown adults continue to follow the same road to ruin.

[kegtapr]

It's a city (and suburbs) filled with really terrific people that is being run into the ground by the 2nd worst political apparatus in the state (and possibly the country).

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Luckily, the head doofus of that pack only has a few more months in office. Of course, the replacements don't seem to promising.

[PromoTheRobot]

I lived in Rochester in the 90's. It's just like, but also nothing like Buffalo, if that makes sense.

 

It's just like Buffalo in that it's a city slowly going downhill. Dead downtown. Little prospect in turning around.

 

It's totally NOT like Buffalo in that it is home to 4 major corporations (Kodak, Xerox, Baush & Lomb, and Paychex) It's a much prettier city overall Also unlike Buffalo, most if not all of it's waterfront is recreational.

 

The yuppie neighborhoods are Park Ave., East Ave., Corn Hill, and Cobb Hill. There are not a lot, but enough pubs restaurants and funky shops to make it interesting.

 

The shopping is terrific, especially shopping at Wegman's supermarket. I'm not kidding it's considered the best supermarket in the country!

 

There's some decent nightlife. I know they get a lot of good alt rock shows in clubs. Also, Rochester has some of the best radio anywhere. Loads of decent college stations, 2 jazz stations, and "The Lake" you can hear ou of Buffalo.

 

The weather blows, but that's all of upstate New York. (Rochester actually averages more snow than Buffalo!)

 

Overall I'd give Rochester a thumbs up. It's is the nicest city in upstate New York by far!!! Way better than Buffalo, Syracuse, Utica, or Albany.

 

PTR

[Alaska Darin]

I lived in Rochester in the 90's.  It's just like, but also nothing like Buffalo, if that makes sense.

 

It's just like Buffalo in that it's a city slowly going downhill.  Dead downtown.  Little prospect in turning around.

 

It's totally NOT like Buffalo in that it is home to 4 major corporations (Kodak, Xerox, Baush & Lomb, and Paychex)  It's a much prettier city overall  Also unlike Buffalo, most if not all of it's waterfront is recreational.

 

The yuppie neighborhoods are Park Ave., East Ave., Corn Hill, and Cobb Hill.  There are not a lot, but enough pubs restaurants and funky shops to make it interesting.

 

The shopping is terrific, especially shopping at Wegman's supermarket.  I'm not kidding it's considered the best supermarket in the country!

 

There's some decent nightlife.  I know they get a lot of good alt rock shows in clubs.  Also, Rochester has some of the best radio anywhere.  Loads of decent college stations, 2 jazz stations, and "The Lake" you can hear ou of Buffalo.

 

The weather blows, but that's all of upstate New York.  (Rochester  actually averages more snow than Buffalo!) 

 

Overall I'd give Rochester a thumbs up.  It's is the nicest city in upstate New York by far!!!  Way better than Buffalo, Syracuse, Utica, or Albany.

 

PTR

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That's a good assessment. It's still one of my favorite places and I'd move back tomorrow if they'd clean house politically. The weather is fine by me and the suburbs are good. Damn I miss Wegmans.

[kegtapr]

It's totally NOT like Buffalo in that it is home to 4 major corporations (Kodak, Xerox, Baush & Lomb, and Paychex)  It's a much prettier city overall  Also unlike Buffalo, most if not all of it's waterfront is recreational.

 

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Don't forget the University of Rochester. It has become the largest employer in Rochester. About to open a new $68 million cancer research center and will soon have one of, if not the most powerful lasers in the world. Also focusing on fusion research. Amazing stuff happening over there.

 

I agree that Rochester's job market is going downhill in comparison to much of the nation, but it is certianly in the best position in all of upstate NY and may just make it through.

[Rayzer32]

Their are some activities and some decent areas, but remember this is a small city. 

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Small? Binghamton, Utica, Watertown, etc... are small cities. Rochester is the biggest city in the USA without a major league sports team. Sounds like you had a bad experience here at one point.

 

A big plus is we will finally have a new mayor here soon. No one can do any worse than Grady Johnson.

[PromoTheRobot]

Small?  Binghamton, Utica, Watertown, etc... are small cities.  Rochester is the biggest city in the USA without a major league sports team.  Sounds like you had a bad experience here at one point. 

 

A big plus is we will finally have a new mayor here soon.  No one can do any worse than Grady Johnson.

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Actually Norfolk VA is, but Rochester is close.

 

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[Alaska Darin]

Small?  Binghamton, Utica, Watertown, etc... are small cities.  Rochester is the biggest city in the USA without a major league sports team.  Sounds like you had a bad experience here at one point. 

 

A big plus is we will finally have a new mayor here soon.  No one can do any worse than Grady Johnson.

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And to be honest I'm glad it's that way. It was great growing up with the Red Wings and Amerks. My parents could actually afford to take us to games on a fairly regular basis.