John from Riverside Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 While sacks are a flashy great thing I am much more concerned about the overall productivity of our defensive rookies which includes pressures and the ability to play the run if they can’t do those things consistently they won’t be on the field the good news is it looks like they are 1
Thurman#1 Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) On 8/15/2021 at 2:22 PM, Wayne Cubed said: Er, what?! Way, way too early for that. Expand Yeah. That's my feeling. On 8/23/2021 at 2:45 AM, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: I’m certain the same folks who preach “Don’t overreact to bad preseason performances” are the first to overreact to good ones Expand Nah. I'm sure there are some like that, of course, but the smart play is to understand that it just doesn't mean much. Either way. Better to be good than bad, but it's anything but conclusive. Edited August 23, 2021 by Thurman#1 1
Solomon Grundy Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) On 8/16/2021 at 8:36 PM, dneveu said: I thought we were going to look at like, previous 1st rounder edge rushers and see their impacts in 1st year. Taking out guys taken in the first 3-5 picks (players expected to start day 1) Last year Chiasson - no impact on a terrible team, while playing about half the snaps. Not sure on how he was entirely used though. 2019 - Sweat and Burns - impactful players in rotation. Gary and Collier, no impact rookie seasons. 2018 - Davenport - relatively impactful in rotation. 2017 - Barnett - impactful player in rotation. Mckinley, Charlton, Harris, no impact. I do think the impact is definitely dependant on snaps. Epenesa flashed here and there and only played about 27% of snaps. Hopefully with the extra length Rouss can replicate some of that athleticism that made sweat and burns dynamic rookies. Expand Don’t forget Bradley Chubb (2018) Edited August 23, 2021 by Solomon Grundy
GunnerBill Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) And to update on poor old Joseph Ossai who looked so good on debut for Cincy. The wrist injury he sustained against the Buccs was not considered serious but he suffered a meniscus injury this week in practice and is done for the year. EDIT: particularly hard on him because he is still new to the position and he needed the in game experience to develop himself from "talented situational pass rusher" to well rounded defensive end. Edited August 23, 2021 by GunnerBill 1 1 1
IgotBILLStopay Posted August 23, 2021 Author Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) On 8/23/2021 at 3:05 AM, John from Riverside said: While sacks are a flashy great thing I am much more concerned about the overall productivity of our defensive rookies which includes pressures and the ability to play the run if they can’t do those things consistently they won’t be on the field the good news is it looks like they are Expand Edited August 23, 2021 by IgotBILLStopay 2 1 1
IgotBILLStopay Posted August 24, 2021 Author Posted August 24, 2021 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-preseason-rookie-qbs-zach-wilson-mac-jones-lead-the-pack-trevor-lawrence-gets-little-help/ Early returns on first round QBs.
Forward Progress Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 3:24 PM, IgotBILLStopay said: Expand I always liked PFF. Their evaluation methodologies are second to none. 1 1
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 6:50 AM, Solomon Grundy said: Don’t forget Bradley Chubb (2018) Expand 5th overall
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