The January 6th Commission To Investigate The Insurrection

[Joe Ferguson forever]

20 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Employers of healthcare workers are responsible for following applicable OSHA requirements, including OSHA's Bloodborne Pathogens (29 CFR 1910.1030), Personal Protective Equipment (29 CFR 1910.132), and Respiratory Protection (29 CFR 1910.134) standards.

 

without those processes, the PPE becomes the vector. 

 

https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/104762

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course we should and do follow Osha guidelines.  The vax compliance rate among docs was 99% in my region.  Masks were required at all times at work and compliance was excellent.  Re fomites:https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/104762.  Not a big player.

Edited April 12 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Tommy Callahan]

6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Of course we should follow osha guideline.  Physician compliance with vax was over 99% in my region.   Hand washing, masks and social distancing was widely practiced.

Nice story but in reality, if those processes are not followed (including documented procedures), the suits and state fines would be ugly.  

 

And in all the mandates, nothing to ensure the mask were not vectors.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 11 by Tommy Callahan

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Nice story but in reality, if those processes are not followed (including documented procedures), the suits and state fines would be ugly.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and rightfully so.  We're supposed to cure people not infect them.

[Tommy Callahan]

7 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

and rightfully so.  We're supposed to cure people not infect them.

And the ones wearing mask everywhere without following any of those processes were????  infecting them?  

 

South Korea has an entire system of Biohazard garbage cans with designated removal at building entrances and on the streets.

 

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0734242X20933343  for example.  South Korea has experience in masking.

 

 However, it is important to recognize how to wear and to remove a face mask. It is more important to recognize how to dispose of a used mask than wearing a mask. Specifically, used masks must be controlled safely and sanitarily because used masks may be infectious through the exposure to potentially infective respiratory droplets. The World Health Organization (WHO) advised on the use of masks in communities, during home care, and in health care settings in areas that have reported cases of COVID-19 (World Health Organization, 2020b).

In SK, personal protective equipment (PPE) including used masks to protect from the infection of COVID-19 should be treated the same as infectious wastes at the suggestion of the WHO guidelines (World Health Organization, 2020c). In order to develop best practices for managing the used PPE, including masks and protective clothes, the principles of managing the used masks in SK were introduced based on the previous lessons of several virus infections such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and Ebola virus. It may be useful to describe briefly the safe management process of the used PPE based on these principles as well as the generation trend of wastes due to COVID-19 in SK.

 

World map of total confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people by country - COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country - Wikipedia

 

full  circle.

 

have a good day.

 

 

Edited April 11 by Tommy Callahan

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said:

And the ones wearing mask everywhere without following any of those processes were????  infecting them?  

 

South Korea has an entire system of Biohazard garbage cans with designated removal at building entrances and on the streets.

 

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0734242X20933343  for example.  South Korea has experience in masking.

 

 However, it is important to recognize how to wear and to remove a face mask. It is more important to recognize how to dispose of a used mask than wearing a mask. Specifically, used masks must be controlled safely and sanitarily because used masks may be infectious through the exposure to potentially infective respiratory droplets. The World Health Organization (WHO) advised on the use of masks in communities, during home care, and in health care settings in areas that have reported cases of COVID-19 (World Health Organization, 2020b).

In SK, personal protective equipment (PPE) including used masks to protect from the infection of COVID-19 should be treated the same as infectious wastes at the suggestion of the WHO guidelines (World Health Organization, 2020c). In order to develop best practices for managing the used PPE, including masks and protective clothes, the principles of managing the used masks in SK were introduced based on the previous lessons of several virus infections such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and Ebola virus. It may be useful to describe briefly the safe management process of the used PPE based on these principles as well as the generation trend of wastes due to COVID-19 in SK.

 

World map of total confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people by country - COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country - Wikipedia

 

full  circle.

 

have a good day.

 

 

You're fixated on mask disposal.  Mask use is what is paramount.

[daz28]

2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

And the ones wearing mask everywhere without following any of those processes were????  infecting them?  

 

South Korea has an entire system of Biohazard garbage cans with designated removal at building entrances and on the streets.

 

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0734242X20933343  for example.  South Korea has experience in masking.

 

 However, it is important to recognize how to wear and to remove a face mask. It is more important to recognize how to dispose of a used mask than wearing a mask. Specifically, used masks must be controlled safely and sanitarily because used masks may be infectious through the exposure to potentially infective respiratory droplets. The World Health Organization (WHO) advised on the use of masks in communities, during home care, and in health care settings in areas that have reported cases of COVID-19 (World Health Organization, 2020b).

In SK, personal protective equipment (PPE) including used masks to protect from the infection of COVID-19 should be treated the same as infectious wastes at the suggestion of the WHO guidelines (World Health Organization, 2020c). In order to develop best practices for managing the used PPE, including masks and protective clothes, the principles of managing the used masks in SK were introduced based on the previous lessons of several virus infections such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and Ebola virus. It may be useful to describe briefly the safe management process of the used PPE based on these principles as well as the generation trend of wastes due to COVID-19 in SK.

 

World map of total confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people by country - COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country - Wikipedia

 

full  circle.

 

have a good day.

 

 

I'm forced to agree with you here.  If infection control protocols aren't followed properly, then it can do more damage than good.  I do not recall much training or insistence from the government on this.  

[Tommy Callahan]

3 hours ago, daz28 said:

I'm forced to agree with you here.  If infection control protocols aren't followed properly, then it can do more damage than good.  I do not recall much training or insistence from the government on this.  

That's all I'm saying.  And looking back at it.  Masking is smart and people were scared.  Lots of mistakes were made. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 hours ago, daz28 said:

I'm forced to agree with you here.  If infection control protocols aren't followed properly, then it can do more damage than good.  I do not recall much training or insistence from the government on this.  

Any hospitalized pt was placed in isolation.  That means a haz mat bag at the door that collected all workers masks, gloves and head covers when leaving - when there was enough PPP to afford this.  Collecting the general population's used masks was never feasable.  Nevertheless, death and infection rates in areas with high mask compliance were lower than in low compliance areas and even the best areas were no where near 90% compliance nor were masks disposed of systematically.  That's what matters- real world studies. 

[BillStime]

Seriously - cry harder bich

 

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