JeffGordon Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 was it kellen Sr. or Kellen Jr.??? 317012[/snapback] HA HA. Well, I hope he is a star... God help us... this draft sounds weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 I'm picking Chris Onorato K Hofstra with the 7th pick & if TD wants to win us over, he'll pick a kicker too. Maybe Onorato over Tyler Jones because Onorato has more bad weather/wind experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Lionel Gates RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 With pick #236, the Buffalo Bills select RB Lionel Gates, Louisville See ya TH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 With pick #236, the Buffalo Bills select RB Lionel Gates, Louisville See ya TH! 317039[/snapback] If we didnt move Travis Henry during the draft, what makes everyone think we somehow have an inside track at trading him now? No team wants him it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Strengths: Is a powerful runner with a good combination of size and strength. He has good initial burst to the hole and adequate speed for his size. Shows good vision and patience. Runs with good pad level and shows adequate initial power at the POA. Is a straight-line runner that is at his best when running downhill. He finds his hole, is very decisive and will not dance much in the backfield. He has adequate hands and is reliable in the short-passing game. Has the size and strength to hold up at the POA when he is in position as a pass blocker. Weaknesses: Doesn't have any special qualities. Is a solid all-around back but lacks explosiveness. Has marginal top-end speed. Is a little bit too straight-lined and seems to have just one-speed. Lacks a second gear when he gets into the open field. He doesn't run by many defenders and he won't make many miss. He never has established himself as the "bell-cow" at Louisville. He is just decent in pass protection and needs to improve his awareness vs. the blitz. Also, while he has good hands and feel in the passing game, he's not an explosive threat after the catch. Had some durability issues in 2003 and 2004. Also had some fumbling problems earlier in his career. Overall: Gates really split carries throughout his career at Louisville. He was a backup much of his sophomore season in 2002 and, while he did lead the Cardinal's in rushing with 817 yards on 141 carries as a junior in 2003, he still split caries with Eric Shelton. The situation wasn't any different for Gates as a senior in '04, as he has continued to split carries with Shelton and Michael Bush, finishing with 373 yards and seven TD's on 76 carries. He also had 71 yards and two TD's on 10 receptions. Gates missed three games because of injury as a senior, two of which were due to a knee injury at the end of the season. Gates has good size, adequate initial burst and is a solid north-south runner. He also has reliable hands and the potential to develop into a solid blocker in the passing game. However, his lack of explosiveness and elusiveness as a runner really limits his NFL potential. His durability issues and minor fumbling problems are also red flags. Overall, Gates has a chance to make it in the NFL as a change of pace backup that can provide some tough carries and also contribute on special teams, but he's too slow and has too many question marks to draft any higher than the middle rounds. ------------------------------ has special teamer written all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 bell-cow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 If we didnt move Travis Henry during the draft, what makes everyone think we somehow have an inside track at trading him now? No team wants him it seems. 317042[/snapback] Simply wishful thinking. I am still hoping we can get a veteran LT for Henry. I would also have no problem if we end up keeping him for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 bell-cow? 317050[/snapback] Here we go again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 If we didnt move Travis Henry during the draft, what makes everyone think we somehow have an inside track at trading him now? No team wants him it seems. 317042[/snapback] wait till training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in SC Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 wait till training camp 317061[/snapback] Thinking purely of the 2005 season, I fail to see how Gates would be an improvement over Henry, or Shaud, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Anyone have height/weight on Gates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RastaMouse Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Well tha - tha - that's all folks...remember these names because they'll be on the All " Where are they now " thread in a few years except for maybe Everett. Not bemoaning the selections just stating the facts. Check out the ESPN site for first round picks since 1990 and it's apparent that this process is such a crap shoot. I'm outta here - gotta be up in the morning with the rising sun gonna run all day until the day is done ! GET SOME Bills fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Anyone have height/weight on Gates? 317089[/snapback] 6'0" 223lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Thinking purely of the 2005 season, I fail to see how Gates would be an improvement over Henry, or Shaud, for that matter. 317087[/snapback] I look at him as a special teamer only. The LB crop was incredibly thin....he'll play on teams for 1-2 years (if he makes the team) before someone else takes his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in SC Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 A bigger slower, straight ahead runner with fumble problems! Please don't trade Travis yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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