1billsfan Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Clements will get that in his next contract and I just want to know who here is willing to pay that or have that kind of hit on the Bill's salary cap. I happen to think that top CBs are way way overpayed it's not even funny. 8 million dollars a year for Nate Clements???? That one is a head scatcher. Unless the player is the next coming of Johnny Unitus, then I'm not spending 1/10th of the cap on one player. I think Nate Clements is in the mix on Saturday because he's entering the last year of his contract and in no way will be a Bill in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Clements will get that in his next contract and I just want to know who here is willing to pay that or have that kind of hit on the Bill's salary cap. I happen to think that top CBs are way way overpayed it's not even funny. 8 million dollars a year for Nate Clements???? That one is a head scatcher. Unless the player is the next coming of Johnny Unitus, then I'm not spending 1/10th of the cap on one player. I think Nate Clements is in the mix on Saturday because he's entering the last year of his contract and in no way will be a Bill in 2006. 311661[/snapback] I'm not sure but I think this has been discussed in a thread or twenty somewhere down below... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 In 2006, I would rather pay a great CB $8M than a half-way decent RT $10.67M. So Nate can stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW_BillsFan Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Uh, 8Mil. No way. Who would we have to cut to give him that much money? He's not worth that much...now if you were talking 4-5Mil/yr..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 It's April 2005; who the hell cares what Clements is going to cost the Bills in 2006. Especially since 2006 is when the new TV contract kicks in, which will completely blow this year's cap figure out of the water. There's nothing wrong with Clements playing out his contract this year and then letting him walk in 2006 if he's deemed too expensive. Teams like the Pats, Eagles, and Steelers let players walk all the time. Let the Bills benefit from Clements contract year, and then decide what to do with him with him when the 2006 cap is set. That's the best move the team can make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Let the Bills benefit from Clements contract year, and then decide what to do with him with him when the 2006 cap is set. That's the best move the team can make. 311719[/snapback] We have a winner. No need to keep this thread going. This man is absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLocke Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Given How the Signing Bonuses work it is unlikely the first year would count 8 million. On the average the cap hit may be 8 million and I would be willing to put up with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I'd rather have 1 Nate clements for 8 million, than 2 terrence mcgee's and a kevin thomas (just for comparison sake) for 8 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 You have to have a playmaker on Defense. If we lose Clements, we need to pick up a great playermaker to take his place. I dont' want to lose Clements... I see no problem franchising him. He's worth is friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I have changed my mind: we should keep Clements. Worry about next year later. If we are trading him, we would be trading him for a draft pick who probably won't really contribute until the end of this year or the beginning of next year. I am tired of waiting for the playoffs. I want them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 You have to have a playmaker on Defense. If we lose Clements, we need to pick up a great playermaker to take his place. I dont' want to lose Clements... I see no problem franchising him. He's worth is friends. 311916[/snapback] I wished he was a play maker in last years opener! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 In 2006, I would rather pay a great CB $8M than a half-way decent RT $10.67M. So Nate can stay. 311687[/snapback] MW's contract will be redone and his cap hit will be significantly less on opening day. Arguments that $8 million for NC is OK because of MW's contract are silly, IMO. Williams' cap number has jumped in the OFF-SEASON only and there's no way TD goes into 2005 with that figure hampering the teams flexibility to sign rookies or impending FAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Agreed, it makes logical sense to trade him now. I can see giving that much money for another position on defense like a top DE (Not AS) but not Nate Clements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I'd rather have 1 Nate clements for 8 million, than 2 terrence mcgee's and a kevin thomas (just for comparison sake) for 8 million 311861[/snapback] How do you figure: Mcgee's cap hit is $482,500 and Thomas's is just $305,000, so you're talking about less than $1.5 million under your scenario...doubtful these kind of guys will ever get the big bucks. In contrast, NC's 2005 hit is already at $3.5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 no athlete is worth $8M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac_Man Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 In 2006, I would rather pay a great CB $8M than a half-way decent RT $10.67M. So Nate can stay. 311687[/snapback] If we're already using up $10.67 million on Mike Williams, that makes it even harder to pay Nate the $8 million. At some point you just run out of money. The new TV contract will be as much a curse as a blessing, because whatever extra cap space it creates will soon be eaten up by a higher price for CBs. We've already lost Winfield to a team that was desperate to have him, and we got nothing in return. Let's not let the same thing happen with Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Either Clements performs awesomely in his contract year and we reap the benefit this year but he flies the coop next year or he plays all right and we can afford him. Either possibility seems like a win for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 If we're already using up $10.67 million on Mike Williams, that makes it even harder to pay Nate the $8 million. At some point you just run out of money. 311988[/snapback] Exactly, and that's why MW will be cut unless he drastically restructures his contract. His dead cap space hit in 2006 would be pretty close to Drew's dead cap space hit in 2005... definitely workable. But Nate is going nowhere. PAY FOR PERFORMANCE, NOT POTENTIAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Exactly, and that's why MW will be cut unless he drastically restructures his contract. His dead cap space hit in 2006 would be pretty close to Drew's dead cap space hit in 2005... definitely workable. But Nate is going nowhere. PAY FOR PERFORMANCE, NOT POTENTIAL! 312000[/snapback] MW will restructure his contract...no way will he be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Clements will get that in his next contract and I just want to know who here is willing to pay that or have that kind of hit on the Bill's salary cap. I happen to think that top CBs are way way overpayed it's not even funny. 8 million dollars a year for Nate Clements???? That one is a head scatcher. Unless the player is the next coming of Johnny Unitus, then I'm not spending 1/10th of the cap on one player. I think Nate Clements is in the mix on Saturday because he's entering the last year of his contract and in no way will be a Bill in 2006. 311661[/snapback] Yeah, I totally agree. I feel the Bills will either trade him now or franchise tag him and trade him for a #1 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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