FTW_BillsFan

13.44 was how long it took him to eat 10 twinkies. He's the only one I know that can eat himself OUT of a job.

Thanks for the survivor pool. Next time, make a list of non-Bills players or players that the Bills have recently cut and see who comes out as the survivor. Again, thanks for the survivor fun.

Thurman picked the wrong time to say the Bills are leaving Buffalo. Hasn't he been keeping up with Survivor: Bills Edition??? Time for Thurman to be booted.

I think the winner will get a spot in the next 'I can't believe it's not butter! Spray!" commercial.

Come on guys, Tony Driver is in LA playing in the XFL, Jonas Jennings is being moved to DE for his pass rush skills, Nate Newton is in Mehico picking up his next shipment for Ricky Williams, who, BTW, is the new herb and spirits advisor for Dallas.

So basically you are telling me we wouldn't have been the first, but the second morons not to take Reggie Bush if we traded up...

I was shocked and surprised by this pick. With Leinart / Cutler / Bunkley / Ngata still on the board you decide to go with the 2nd Safety in the draft? I'm just perplexed by this pick. Trade down to 15 and get the extra picks... Even if Whit wouldn't have been there, this draft was DEEP in safeties. So why 'waste' the 8th pick on him? Personally, weak arm or not, 1) I can't believe that Leinart dropped and 2) I can't believe we didn't pick him. Oh, well I guess. At least we didn't waste any more picks trading up into the 1st round and taking a player that was graded middle second.

Who is that?

I'm sorry, but the more I think about it IF we are worried about Losman not having it, why not draft Leinart? The man is a winner and the best QB prospect in this draft IMO. Let them battle it out and whoever loses is shipped out Erie style.

I totally agree w/ you. That's why I have always been in the Ngata/D'Brick/Bunkley camp and the anti Huff camp. Although, I would really love to trade down and still get Bunk.

You wouldn't take Leinart if he was there at 8? He would be very tempting... also he would be very good trade bait at #8...

You said Booby.

All my stupid reply was saying is that D'Brick isn't necessarily a lock. We thought Mike Williams was the shiznit, but he couldn't even handle being a guard in our offensive line. I would hate to trade up to get him....now, if he happens to fall to #8, then I would take him.

Wow! Let's put the absolutely certain HOF player D'Brick @ LT w/ our all world pick from a couple of years go (can't miss), RT Mike Williams. Now, we have some protection, er... Mikey, where are you? Oh, I guess he wasn't as sure a bet as we thought. Now, if D'Brick fell to us at #8 I would be thrilled. What we really want to see if one of 2 scenario's. 1) All 3 QBs taken early and a prime player will fall to #8, ie. D'Brick or 2) only 1 or 2 QBs are taken early. This would leave Cutler and possibly Young out there at our pick. Perfect trade bait at #8 and the price will go up for our pick. Also, with all of these picks this year, IMO we should also be looking to next year by looking for 2007 draft picks for some of our 2006 picks, IMO.

Circle, First off, they all threw themselves under the bus by dragging their feet with revenue sharing. The owners couldn't/wouldn't agree on the new CBA until the revenue sharing issue was resolved (now we know it's still not resolved). So, they waited until the last second, agree to whatever they agree to in their meeting for revenue sharing and then agreed on the CBA. They all basically F'ed themselves, which was my point on that. I really don't care how they implement it, but the playing field needs to be level and everyone can compete if the NFL wants to stay on top of the US sports landscape. With this new revenue sharing plan, the landscape will be highly tilted to the high revenue owners.

While I don't disagree with you that the NFL is not based on a free market system totally, there is Free Agency later in a players career. Also, if you want to see a system that is closest to a 'pure' free market system look at MLB. I'm sure the Royals and Rockies fans are hyped for this season. Could you imagine the chaos and how bad the NFL on-field product would become if anyone (no age restriction) would be allowed. This doesn't even include the idea of not having a draft. For a good example of this is the NBA. When they were letting in all of those high schoolers, the game also changed into more of a streetball version AND alot of those high schoolers were not physically ready for the NBA, but they were already 7'1" and they would be ready in 2-3 yrs. Potential, they drafted off of potential. Teams found out quickly with a roster of 13? they couldn't draft projects and still field a good team. Even though football fields a team of 53, they do not have 'extra' spots for projects. They use them all. But I'm getting off of the subject here. I do not see the CBA and the owner revenue sharing as inclusive. I'm happy that the players threw the owners under the bus, but it was the owners fault because they are stupid and dragged their own revenue sharing plan for so long....ie. the rich owners are greedy. The NFL has been sharing revenue for decades. Long before the old CBA was in existance. They realized long ago that all of the franchises needed to be viable to be successful. Now with new ownership, they don't see it that way. They don't care where the franchise is as long as it's pulling in tons of money. I bet that if Snyder or Jones was the owner of the Bills, the Bills would have left for LA a LONG time ago because the money is better there. They have no loyalty to anyone but themselves and money. This should be another reason why ppl should be backing RW instead of saying he is senile and why is he the only one yelling about this?

56.2, 60.... The difference is really insignificant to the more underlying issue of not sharing monies and disparity between the haves and havenots. Even in the old system, ppl always wondered how Snyder could get away with signing all of those players... well it came down to one thing. Signing bonus. That guys was making so much more money than *almost* any other team he could throw lavish signing bonuses on these guys and it wouldn't even phase him. He's paying his defensive coordinator *greg williams* 2.5 Mil/yr. Who else can do that? No one. Also, in the new CBA the are counting all NFL revenue and not tickets and the TV contract that was the basis of the old CBA.

Circle, IMO, there is 1 reason why the NFL is the most popular sport in the US. On any given Sunday, any team can beat any other team. Or another word for it: parity. Parity has given every NFL football fan across the globe hope every Sunday that their favorite team will put up a W. Every week, I can think of ways for Buffalo to win their game. Does it happen most of the time? No, but it is possible, and so I watch. **BTW, no other US sport can currently say that. ** Now, NFL parity is guaranteed by 2 things: 1) Salary Cap and 2) Revenue sharing between the owners. If either of these 2 things get out of whack, then we start having problems; IE. this new CBA and revenue sharing. Now, I have no problem with the new CBA they agreed to, but I have definite problems with the new revenue sharing plan (RSP) the owners have. The new RSP is so lopsided that RW seriously needs to think about moving the team because of it. ** RW isn't a dummy, he can see the writing on the wall and he is trying to keep the team in Buffalo. So we should support him even if he is the only man yelling from the top the mountain. ** A little history: The previous CBA was almost solely based on ticket sales and the HUGE TV contracts. Now, all of this revenue was shared by all of the owners in the league so there was not a money disparity between the teams to pay the players. So the rules of parity were intact. Fast forward to the present. There are a number of issues that will hurt the Bills in the future. 1) The new CBA is based off of ALL NFL revenue. Everything. The amount that Dallas and Washington get from all of their corporate sponsorships and naming rights for the stadium, the field, and anything else Snyder and Jones can auction off to the highest bidder. So for every dollar that the NFL makes 59.5 cents (maximum) will go to the players salaries. 2) The new RSP between the owners does not include sharing of all the revenues from the NFL. I would bet it's the same as before, split the tickets and the TV revenue, but everything else stays with their team. (Now, there is some revenue sharing of the other monies that are made, but it is a very complicated system and will not make up for the difference between the lowest teams and the highest teams.) Now, when you put both of those together, it doesn't take a genius to see that the small market teams are getting the shaft and the beautiful parity of the NFL will not be around for much longer. Or to put it in other words. In a couple of years, Buffalo fans (if we still have a team) will be looking forward more to the NFL draft than the season because we will be a perennial top 10 drafting team with this new deal the way it is structured.

Had to put in a little Costanza in this one. I can't believe that the small market owners would: 1) agree to a CBA where ALL revenue is counted toward the players salaries and then 2) agree to not share all of the revenues that are counted toward the players salaries. It's basically a double-whammy for any small market team. Furthermore, the Dallas', Washington's, and New Englands of the NFL will find more way to make more non-NFL revenue money (naming rights, etc.) or charge more for what they currently are doing, further making the cap bigger, while Buffalo is rather stagnant and has pushed all of their options to the limit. So now, it's really a triple-whammy. If something doesn't change to make the playing field more level for all teams the Bills will be called the LA whatevers in less than 5 years.

Go back to Iron Man football. Have a roster or around 35 players and have them play both ways. He'll be back in the black in no time.

OK. Thanks.

TIA.

Really? Thanks goodness for that. We have so many holes to fill it would be hard with just one pick. So can I assume you are in the Huff bandwagon also?

They are all a crap shoot, IMO. Ngata, Huff, Bunkley, who knows how they will handle the NFL. Do the best you can w/ what you got I guess.

Do you also feel that field goal kicker is not apart of the discussion? I think people underestimate the importance of special teams. We are lucky to have Moorman. I wonder how many more points we would have given up if our special teams weren't #1. Punters can pin other teams close to the goal line or kick a boomer from your own end zone and totally change the complexion of the game. Now, I'm not saying that we should be looking for a kicker/punter at #8, but whenever you can get the best available, then maybe you should go for it. Unless you are set in that position, ie. buffalo w/ Moorman.