Police Terrorism Group

[BullBuchanan]

41 minutes ago, Dub said:

Bull, if I post a link with something from Rush how much creedance you gonna give it ?

None, because he lies. Slate may cover left of center positions, but are you saying their report lies?

[Dub]

2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

None, because he lies. Slate may cover left of center positions, but are you saying their report lies?

What Im saying is there is too much opinion in what we consume and if you pass opinions off as news or facts you're doing yourself a disservice. My point with Rush is that its obviously his opinion. You're more than entitled to disagree with it. Which lies of his get you especially?

[BullBuchanan]

4 minutes ago, Dub said:

What Im saying is there is too much opinion in what we consume and if you pass opinions off as news or facts you're doing yourself a disservice. My point with Rush is that its obviously his opinion. You're more than entitled to disagree with it. Which lies of his get you especially?

You can start here. I don't have the time.

If you want to question the data I've posted on its accuracy, please feel free to post alternative sources. I don't care at all about opinion pieces. I just read news for data.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=rush-limbaugh

Edited October 2, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[Reality Check]

 

[BullBuchanan]

On 9/24/2020 at 4:23 PM, 3rdnlng said:

You can't go two posts without putting on full display your deep seated assmudgeonry. 

 

Per a witness the cops announced themselves and knocked before breaking down the door.

 

Breonna's new boyfriend shot at the cops before they shot back. He admitted to this.

 

Per the Grand Jury the cops had every right to shoot back in self defense. 

 

One cop was charged with basically reckless endangerment for being a bad shot, not hitting anything but inanimate objects. 

 

Some people claim that Breonna was intimately involved in her ex boyfriend's drug business, thus naturally putting her life in danger. She shares some of the blame for her own demise.

Even though I already proved your lie false, here it is in black and white.

Like I've been saying, the criminal network that supports and enables these terrorist cops goes all the way through the system.
 

"Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron said on Tuesday that he did not present any murder charges to the grand jury that was empaneled to hear the case of Breonna Taylor, the 26-year-old Black woman who was shot and killed by a trio of plainclothes Louisville police officers in her home back in March.

In a sit-down interview with local news station WDRB, Cameron said that his office found murder charges were “not appropriate.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518951-ag-cameron-didnt-recommend-any-homicide-charges-to-breonna-taylor

Edited October 3, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[3rdnlng]

6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Even though I already proved your lie false, here it is in black and white.

Like I've been saying, the criminal network that supports and enables these terrorist cops goes all the way through the system.
 

"Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron said on Tuesday that he did not present any murder charges to the grand jury that was empaneled to hear the case of Breonna Taylor, the 26-year-old Black woman who was shot and killed by a trio of plainclothes Louisville police officers in her home back in March.

In a sit-down interview with local news station WDRB, Cameron said that his office found murder charges were “not appropriate.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518951-ag-cameron-didnt-recommend-any-homicide-charges-to-breonna-taylor

Are you just trying to confirm my post? The prosecution didn't find any type of murder charges as appropriate and neither did the grand jury. The reckless endangerment charges were against the detective who fired into the apartment at random. 

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Are you just trying to confirm my post? The prosecution didn't find any type of murder charges as appropriate and neither did the grand jury. The reckless endangerment charges were against the detective who fired into the apartment at random. 

Apparently you need help reading. You lied: "Per the Grand Jury the cops had every right to shoot back in self defense. " This is explicitly false. The grand jury was not given the option to indict on murder charges, because the prosecutor, also a Republican, did not present it as an option.

[3rdnlng]

16 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Apparently you need help reading. You lied: "Per the Grand Jury the cops had every right to shoot back in self defense. " This is explicitly false. The grand jury was not given the option to indict on murder charges, because the prosecutor, also a Republican, did not present it as an option.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/23/kentucky-self-defense-laws-

 

The grand jury had the option of indicting the officers on any of four degrees of homicide — from reckless homicide to murder, and prominent athletes and celebrities across the country demanded the most serious charge.  

But the attorneys predicted that would never happen because in Kentucky, a murder conviction requires that a defendant act intentionally to cause a death. In other words, his conscious objective must be to kill someone. 

To prove the wanton endangerment charges against Hankison, which are each punishable by one to five years in prison, special prosecutors must show that under circumstances demonstrating extreme indifference to the value of human life, he wantonly engaged in conduct that created a substantial danger of death or serious physical injury to another person. 

Cameron said one of the apartments Hankison shot was occupied by a couple and a young child. 

 

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/23/kentucky-self-defense-laws-

 

The grand jury had the option of indicting the officers on any of four degrees of homicide — from reckless homicide to murder, and prominent athletes and celebrities across the country demanded the most serious charge.  

But the attorneys predicted that would never happen because in Kentucky, a murder conviction requires that a defendant act intentionally to cause a death. In other words, his conscious objective must be to kill someone. 

To prove the wanton endangerment charges against Hankison, which are each punishable by one to five years in prison, special prosecutors must show that under circumstances demonstrating extreme indifference to the value of human life, he wantonly engaged in conduct that created a substantial danger of death or serious physical injury to another person. 

Cameron said one of the apartments Hankison shot was occupied by a couple and a young child. 

 

Again, I mean it's like you don't even try to understand, or you just actively look for words to fit your agenda. This was a lazy coverup with a republican DA backing a police force that is overwhelmingly republican with 84% voting for trump compared to 46% of the general population.


"In Kentucky, like elsewhere, prosecutors have sole purview over what evidence and witnesses a grand jury hears"

"

Cameron has said he presented grand jurors with a witness who supported officers' statements that they announced themselves. But Ben Crump, a lawyer for the Taylor family, and Steven Romines, Walker's lawyer, say there are 12 other neighbors who did not hear any announcement. "

"Grand jurors do have the opportunity to ask questions, and may decide not enough probable cause exists to return an indictment recommended by a prosecutor. But they typically wouldn't have knowledge of the law to the extent that they would question the indictment options a prosecutor presents and recommend more serious charges, Lollar said."

"Most grand jurors are not lawyers, they aren't experts with the legal process," Lollar said. "They're going to take a look at the evidence and the law presented to them and decide whether there's enough to charge based on what's presented to them."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-case-grand-jury-transcripts-released-2020-10-02/
https://www.policemag.com/342098/the-2016-police-presidential-poll

[3rdnlng]

@BullBuchananHow many times are you going to repeat yourself?

 

From my original link:

 

Seven criminal defense experts with an average of 37 years of practice told The Louisville Courier Journal, part of the USA TODAY Network, earlier this summer that homicide charges against the other two officers were unlikely because they had a right to return fire once Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, fired one “warning shot” that police say struck Mattingly in the femoral artery, nearly killing him. 

 

Edited October 3, 2020 by 3rdnlng

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

@BullBuchananHow many times are you going to repeat yourself?

 

From my original link:

 

Seven criminal defense experts with an average of 37 years of practice told The Louisville Courier Journal, part of the USA TODAY Network, earlier this summer that homicide charges against the other two officers were unlikely because they had a right to return fire once Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, fired one “warning shot” that police say struck Mattingly in the femoral artery, nearly killing him. 

 

And that is irrelevant to the fact that the DA did not present them as options. The DA also withheld evidence that would have made it possible and ballistics reports do not support the claim that Walker shot police. Your agenda is showing.

The law abiding citizens had police break into their home in the middle of the night and murder one of them. I don't even have to imagine what your response would be if the shoe was on the other foot.

[B-Man]

 

 

FACTS V. NARRATIVE: 

 

Learning from Breonna Taylor. 

 

There are lessons, but they’re not what you’ve been hearing.

 

 

 

 

 

[BullBuchanan]

Family finally wins subpeona for bodycam footage of Montgomery branch of organized terrorist police group murdering an innocent man by commanding their police dog to attack him. This type of barbarism should be punished to the full extent of the law. More friends of Sig & Jim, I'm sure. I wonder if these cops were "great guys" too.
 

“Despite Mr. Pettaway’s obvious and profuse bleeding and his apparently going into shock, no policeman examines or evaluates [Pettaway’s] wound and no policeman administers any of the most basic, essential, obvious and immediately required care to stem or reduce his bleeding,” the lawsuit documents say.

 

“F-ck yeah,” Barber replied when another officer asked if Pettaway “got a bite.”

Pettaway eventually was removed from the home by officers who laid him down on the pavement and waited for EMS to arrive.
 

The officers allegedly stood by joking and taking pictures of Pettaway as he bled out. There had been no indication that he was armed or attempting to flee.

https://atlantablackstar.com/2020/10/03/his-flesh-was-all-on-the-ground-family-of-innocent-black-man-mauled-to-death-by-police-dog-over-a-false-burglary-call-continues-fight-for-bodycam-footage/

[B-Man]

 

 

REMINDER: 

 

There is no epidemic of fatal police shootings against unarmed Black Americans.

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

[BullBuchanan]

Wolfe City, texas branch of organized terrorist police force murder city employee in cold blood who was attempting the break up a fight.

Man killed in Wolfe City police shooting was 'pillar of the community,' witness says
 

Civil rights lawyer Lee Merritt also posted about Price's death. He said he had spoken to the man's family. 

"When police arrived, I’m told, he raised his hands and attempted to explain what was going on," Merritt wrote on Facebook. "Police fired tasers at him and when his body convulsed from the electrical current, they 'perceived a threat' and shot him to death." 

The Texas Rangers are investigating the shooting at the request of the city's police department. Officials with the Hunt County Sheriff's Office were also seen at the scene.
 

The officer has been placed on leave pending the result of the investigation, Wolfe City officials said in a post to Facebook on Sunday.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/texas-rangers-investigating-police-shooting-in-wolfe-city-officer-placed-on-leave/287-abe92429-3282-43b2-8d30-cfd32d8976ca

[Chef Jim]

@BullBuchanan

 

Please clarify something for me.  Do you consider all Law Enforcement as a terrorist organizations?  

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

@BullBuchanan

 

Please clarify something for me.  Do you consider all Law Enforcement as a terrorist organizations?  

I consider American police forces to be terrorist organizations - not the concept of law enforcement.

How many times do we have to do this?

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I consider American police forces to be terrorist organizations - not the concept of law enforcement.

How many times do we have to do this?

 

Just clarifying it before I ask you this question.  

 

So do you consider the financial services industry that has members fined millions and millions of dollars each year to be  White Collar Crime Organizations?  

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Just clarifying it before I ask you this question.  

 

So do you consider the financial services industry that has members fined millions and millions of dollars each year to be  White Collar Crime Organizations?  

Yes, though Banks more specifically.

Edited October 5, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

Yes, though Banks more specifically.

 

So you consider everyone in the financial services industry white collar criminals?  

[BullBuchanan]

3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So you consider everyone in the financial services industry white collar criminals?  

Not necessarily.

As I explained in our earlier conversations, the primary things that make the police an organizational problem of which every member is culpable, and not a case of "a few bad apples" are:
1. They routinely back the play of fellow employees who do wrong or the stand by and let it happen

2. They are trained and encouraged to create situations where they are likely/legally protected to do wrong

3. The lowest level employees are usually the ones that commit the initial crimes and are protected by each level of seniority up the chain. (much like the mafia). 

4. These situations are present at every single major police force in the country which precludes the idea that they are isolated incidents and the majority of the workforce is directly involved in the unscrupulous activity.

5. They are civil servants, who put food on their table with the money of the people they hurt directly

Flipping over to Banks (most companies termed "financial services" are really just software companies or vendors)
1. Low-level bank employees do not have a culture of standing by their fellow employees as they do wrong

2. Training from financial institutions is designed around being exceedingly conservative with interpretation of right and wrong

3. It's executives, not low level employees that are usually the primary ringleaders in the crimes

4. like police forces, every major bank has faced significant scandal to the point where you know that organizationally, banks are criminal, but the majority of the workforce is far removed from the unscrupulous activity

5. They are private employees, who put food on their table with the money of their employer who gains it from hurting people.

The police are dependent on people they do bad things to.
People that work at banks are dependent on people who do bad things to others (and them).

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

Not necessarily.
 

 

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Not necessarily.

As I explained in our earlier conversations, the primary things that make the police an organizational problem of which every member is culpable, and not a case of "a few bad apples" are:
1. They routinely back the play of fellow employees who do wrong or the stand by and let it happen

2. They are trained and encouraged to create situations where they are likely/legally protected to do wrong

3. The lowest level employees are usually the ones that commit the initial crimes and are protected by each level of seniority up the chain. (much like the mafia). 

4. These situations are present at every single major police force in the country which precludes the idea that they are isolated incidents and the majority of the workforce is directly involved in the unscrupulous activity.

5. They are civil servants, who put food on their table with the money of the people they hurt directly

Flipping over to Banks (most companies termed "financial services" are really just software companies or vendors)
1. Low-level bank employees do not have a culture of standing by their fellow employees as they do wrong

2. Training from financial institutions is designed around being exceedingly conservative with interpretation of right and wrong

3. It's executives, not low level employees that are usually the primary ringleaders in the crimes

4. like police forces, every major bank has faced significant scandal to the point where you know that organizationally, banks are criminal, but the majority of the workforce is far removed from the unscrupulous activity

5. They are private employees, who put food on their table with the money of their employer who gains it from hurting people.

The police are dependent on people they do bad things to.
People that work at banks are dependent on people who do bad things to others (and them).

 

So if it's not just a few "bad apples" then you are accusing EVERY cop as being involved in EVERYTHING listed in 1-5 regarding cops.  EVERY cop is in on the terrorist organization?  This is 100% conjecture on your part and I think it's very safe thing to say you are 100% WRONG and just have a very big ax to grind.  

 

Now regarding Financial Services.  I'll just start out by saying you have no idea what Financial Services is if you think it's only banks.  But I'll continue with your assumptions regarding banks.   And I'll only address it with this.

 

Banks are criminals who hurt people?  Please go on............

[BullBuchanan]

7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

 

So if it's not just a few "bad apples" then you are accusing EVERY cop as being involved in EVERYTHING listed in 1-5 regarding cops.  EVERY cop is in on the terrorist organization?  This is 100% conjecture on your part and I think it's very safe thing to say you are 100% WRONG and just have a very big ax to grind.  

Correct. They are all guilty of the accusations I outlined

 

 

7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Now regarding Financial Services.  I'll just start out by saying you have no idea what Financial Services is if you think it's only banks.  But I'll continue with your assumptions regarding banks. 

I know exactly what financial services are. I never said they were exclusively banks. I said that Banks are white collar criminal organizations.

JP Morgan Chase, BoA, and Wells Fargo are white collar criminal organizations. Aloha POS or a credit union is not.

 

  

7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Banks are criminals who hurt people?  Please go on............

No.

Edited October 5, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[B-Man]

 

 

LIFE ON THE STREETS: 

 

 

A Cop Confesses What Policing Is Like in the Age of BLM/Antifa.

 

 

 

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

 

So if it's not just a few "bad apples" then you are accusing EVERY cop as being involved in EVERYTHING listed in 1-5 regarding cops.  EVERY cop is in on the terrorist organization?  This is 100% conjecture on your part and I think it's very safe thing to say you are 100% WRONG and just have a very big ax to grind.  

 

Now regarding Financial Services.  I'll just start out by saying you have no idea what Financial Services is if you think it's only banks.  But I'll continue with your assumptions regarding banks.   And I'll only address it with this.

 

Banks are criminals who hurt people?  Please go on............

 

 

...not in his repertoire........ONE bad apple means the ENTIRE orchard is no good.......SMH......

[BullBuchanan]

9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...not in his repertoire........ONE bad apple means the ENTIRE orchard is no good.......SMH......

What's the number?

I've posted examples of entire units of police assaulting people. I've posted examples of police chiefs directing unscrupulous behavior. How many dead apple trees would you need to see in your yard before you concluded there was a problem with the orchard?

In the case of police, they've killed ~20,000 people since 9/11.All other terrorists combined killed 190 americans through 2016

Is there a difficulty in understanding what an "organizational problem" is here? You guys must not be Bills fans.

Edited October 5, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[B-Man]

4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...not in his repertoire........ONE bad apple means the ENTIRE orchard is no good.......SMH......

 

 

For Reality Check;

 

 

[Chef Jim]

21 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Correct. They are all guilty of the accusations I outlined

 

I've got nothing here.  It is impossible to reason with you so I'll finally stop.  It's sad that that you accuse people you've never met, have never seen the work they do, have never ridden in their cruiser or talked to them of being horrible people.  

 

22 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I know exactly what financial services are. I never said they were exclusively banks. I said that Banks are white collar criminal organizations.

JP Morgan Chase, BoA, and Wells Fargo are white collar criminal organizations. Aloha POS or a credit union is not.

 

Your brain is messed up.  The saying "painting with a broad brush" doesn't even come close to explaining the logic (or lack thereof) of  your thinking.  Why are credit unions excluded from your white collar criminal organizations?  The answer to this question will be very telling.  

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I've got nothing here.  It is impossible to reason with you so I'll finally stop.  It's sad that that you accuse people you've never met, have never seen the work they do, have never ridden in their cruiser or talked to them of being horrible people. 

I have facts and data. You have feelings.

It's funny how you guys can make statements about liberals, communists, antifa, or leftists in general with 0 facts or data points, but when someone comes armed to the teeth with sound sources, data, and investigative journalism of the corruption and brutality of our police force, you get all sad about a nice cop you met once.

All this from the "F*** your feelings" crowd. You get no sympathy from me. I think all cops are terrorists and I back it up. If you're a cop, maybe consider a line of work where you help people instead of hurt them. If you're not, go white knight for somebody else. They're big boys.

[BullBuchanan]

In an average year, American police kill 1000 people per year. In an average year, England & wales kills 3.

In order for England to kill as many people as the United States per year at that rate, they would need to have a population of 8.3 BILLION.

[Chef Jim]

14 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I have facts and data. You have feelings.

It's funny how you guys can make statements about liberals, communists, antifa, or leftists in general with 0 facts or data points, but when someone comes armed to the teeth with sound sources, data, and investigative journalism of the corruption and brutality of our police force, you get all sad about a nice cop you met once.

All this from the "F*** your feelings" crowd. You get no sympathy from me. I think all cops are terrorists and I back it up. If you're a cop, maybe consider a line of work where you help people instead of hurt them. If you're not, go white knight for somebody else. They're big boys.

 

You have facts yes. And you use those facts and apply them liberally to all police officers.  If you can't see the error of that I can't help you.  

 

Not one of us has said the police are angels.  There are bad cops (and some are REAL bad)  but there are also good cops.  And for you to say all cops are bad is idiotic logic.  

 

You do NOT back up that ALL cops are terrorists.  If you think that not one cop is in that very dangerous line of work to help people your brain is poison and I suggest you get it looked at. 

 

All cops hurt people?  I gotta know.  Something happened to you to have your brain formulate these very poorly arrived at conclusions.  What was it Bull?   You can tell us.  This hatred is very deeply rooted and not from headlines but most likely from some very personal experiences.  

[BullBuchanan]

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

You have facts yes. And you use those facts and apply them liberally to all police officers.  If you can't see the error of that I can't help you.  

 

Not one of us has said the police are angels.  There are bad cops (and some are REAL bad)  but there are also good cops.  And for you to say all cops are bad is idiotic logic.  

 

You do NOT back up that ALL cops are terrorists.  If you think that not one cop is in that very dangerous line of work to help people your brain is poison and I suggest you get it looked at. 

 

All cops hurt people?  I gotta know.  Something happened to you to have your brain formulate these very poorly arrived at conclusions.  What was it Bull?   You can tell us.  This hatred is very deeply rooted and not from headlines but most likely from some very personal experiences.  

I spelled it out for you as simply as I can. At this point you're either just trolling or you really can't process the most basic forms of logic. I 100% do not mean that as an insult, but you seem to think that a person joining a gang does not make them a gang member.

I never said all police are "bad". I said all police are terrorists, because they've joined a terrorist organization and they work to further the goals of that organization.
I consider it to be accurate base don the information I've put forth, because you've been completely unable to counter any part of it.

I'm sure there have been some mostly nice people who've done a lot of nice things in every group that meets the definition of a terrorist organization.

[New Improved DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I never said all police are "bad". I said all police are terrorists, because they've joined a terrorist organization

 

You're a ***** idiot.

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, New Improved DC Tom said:

 

You're a ***** idiot.

Quality content. Are you one of them?

[New Improved DC Tom]

4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Quality content. Are you one of them?

 

No, jamoke.  I'm someone who read your "I didn't call them all bad, I called them all terrorists.  You just can't follow logic" masterpiece of bovine excrement, thought I'd point out that you're a ***** idiot, because that makes no sense, and only an idiot would think it does.

 

Even if I agreed with your conclusions, you'd be a mammoth ***** idiot for believing you make any rational sense.

[Dragoon]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

 

So if it's not just a few "bad apples" then you are accusing EVERY cop as being involved in EVERYTHING listed in 1-5 regarding cops.  EVERY cop is in on the terrorist organization?  This is 100% conjecture on your part and I think it's very safe thing to say you are 100% WRONG and just have a very big ax to grind.  

 

Now regarding Financial Services.  I'll just start out by saying you have no idea what Financial Services is if you think it's only banks.  But I'll continue with your assumptions regarding banks.   And I'll only address it with this.

 

Banks are criminals who hurt people?  Please go on............

Dude, unless you got the time to compile a mountain of evidence he won’t admit he’s wrong. And even if you do have the time and desire, he’ll act like a child that won’t admit he’s wrong. He’s an angry, illogical person and going tit for tat with him is useless. The only way he can possibly realize how misguided he is, is for him to get what he wants....but that’s not going to happen. 

People in Hong Kong want to live like Americans and this guy wants to live in either anarchy or an authoritarian state. 
 

The only reason he thinks the police are oppressive is because he doesn’t know what real oppression is. 

 

Edited October 5, 2020 by Dragoon

[Chef Jim]

14 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I spelled it out for you as simply as I can. At this point you're either just trolling or you really can't process the most basic forms of logic. I 100% do not mean that as an insult, but you seem to think that a person joining a gang does not make them a gang member.

I never said all police are "bad". I said all police are terrorists, because they've joined a terrorist organization and they work to further the goals of that organization.
I consider it to be accurate base don the information I've put forth, because you've been completely unable to counter any part of it.

I'm sure there have been some mostly nice people who've done a lot of nice things in every group that meets the definition of a terrorist organization.

 

Nope.  You have it backwards.  Because some cops have "terrorists" tendencies you have deemed the organizations they are part of as terrorists organizations and  you take that to deem all cops a terrorists.  Idiotic logic on display. 

 

Now back to my question you never answered. Why, in your mind, are credit unions not white collar criminal organizations?  

9 minutes ago, New Improved DC Tom said:

 

No, jamoke.  I'm someone who read your "I didn't call them all bad, I called them all terrorists.  You just can't follow logic" masterpiece of bovine excrement, thought I'd point out that you're a ***** idiot, because that makes no sense, and only an idiot would think it does.

 

Even if I agreed with your conclusions, you'd be a mammoth ***** idiot for believing you make any rational sense.

 

Again so much for new and improved.  Not that there's anything wrong with that. 

9 minutes ago, Dragoon said:

Dude, unless you got the time to compile a mountain of evidence he won’t admit he’s wrong. And even if you do have the time and desire, he’ll act like a child that won’t admit he’s wrong. He’s an angry, illogical person and going tit for tat with him is useless. The only way he can possibly realize how misguided he is, is for him to get what he wants....but that’s not going to happen. 

People in Hong Kong want to live like Americans and this guy wants to live in either anarchy or an authoritarian state. 
 

The only reason he thinks the police are oppressive is because he doesn’t know what real oppression is. 

 

 

I'm trying to get him to break down bawling like a baby with "ok ok.  A police officer stole my puppy when I was 10!!!!"   I'm a frustrated psychologist I think. 

[BullBuchanan]

12 minutes ago, Dragoon said:

Dude, unless you got the time to compile a mountain of evidence he won’t admit he’s wrong. And even if you do have the time and desire, he’ll act like a child that won’t admit he’s wrong. He’s an angry, illogical person and going tit for tat with him is useless. The only way he can possibly realize how misguided he is, is for him to get what he wants....but that’s not going to happen. 

People in Hong Kong want to live like Americans and this guy wants to live in either anarchy or an authoritarian state. 
 

The only reason he thinks the police are oppressive is because he doesn’t know what real oppression is. 

 

Unlike you, I don't play a tough guy on the internet. Just because I'm not swayed by your fact-less assertions, does not mean my thoughts are set in stone.

I routinely update my opinions when there is reasonable justification for it. None of that has occurred in this thread, or frankly on this entire board. If you can't bully your way into a victory, you have absolutely no idea what to do next.

[Dragoon]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

Unlike you, I don't play a tough guy on the internet. Just because I'm not swayed by your fact-less assertions, does not mean my thoughts are set in stone.

I routinely update my opinions when there is reasonable justification for it. None of that has occurred in this thread, or frankly on this entire board. If you can't bully your way into a victory, you have absolutely no idea what to do next.

Im sorry, I’m a “bully?” I disagree with that characterization.