JohnC Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Buffalo is more midwestern than an east cost. They would be a great fit in the B1G Ten except for budget and tradition. But obviously the B1G is willing to lower it's standards for Rutgers. Academically UB fits the profile of the B1G Ten. They added Rutgers for the New York market, but UB has just as many downstate alums as they do. Promo, Your enthusiasm is something to behold. I want to be gentle and diplomatic: You are getting freaking carried away! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, JohnC said: Promo, Your enthusiasm is something to behold. I want to be gentle and diplomatic: You are getting freaking carried away! He’s not wrong UB is going on a 10-15 year climb to a major conference they are getting the facilities and just need more booster support they axed a lot of programs so football and basketball can be king, and not just forever in the MAC New York States university is too big to stay in the MAC forever Edited September 23, 2018 by Buffalo716 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suorangefan4 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) UB got 2 votes in the new coaches top 25 poll that came out today AP just came out and UB got 6 votes Edited September 23, 2018 by suorangefan4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Buffalo is more midwestern than an east cost. They would be a great fit in the B1G Ten except for budget and tradition. But obviously the B1G is willing to lower it's standards for Rutgers. Academically UB fits the profile of the B1G Ten. They added Rutgers for the New York market, but UB has just as many downstate alums as they do. Definitely and it would help recruiting, maybe if they can sustain winning they can work their way in. 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: He’s not wrong UB is going on a 10-15 year climb to a major conference they are getting the facilities and just need more booster support they axed a lot of programs so football and basketball can be king, and not just forever in the MAC New York States university is too big to stay in the MAC forever Preach! who did they cut , hopefully not wrestling?? Edited September 23, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Definitely and it would help recruiting, maybe if they can sustain winning they can work their way in. Benjiman Preach! who did they cut , hopefully not wrestling?? D1 swimming , diving, baseball and some others 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: D1 swimming , diving, baseball and some others Good, kids can do that in club leagues. wrestling should never be cut being the true test of Manhood. Edited September 23, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Good, kids can do that in club leagues. wrestling should never be cut being the true test of Manhood. Not a big fan of them cutting baseball as I know players who play and played there one even drafted but it is what it is... football and basketball are king there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suorangefan4 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 UB opens as 7 point favorites against Army on Vegas Insiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Not a big fan of them cutting baseball as I know players who play and played there one even drafted but it is what it is... football and basketball are king there kings everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: kings everywhere touché 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Not a big fan of them cutting baseball as I know players who play and played there one even drafted but it is what it is... football and basketball are king there It's a shame to cut any sport but baseball and softball couldn't even play games at home for the first half of the season due to Buffalo weather. Edited September 23, 2018 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: It's a shame to cut any sport but baseball and softball couldn't even play games at home for the first half of the season due to Buffalo weather. Yep and that’s why it’s gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: He’s not wrong UB is going on a 10-15 year climb to a major conference they are getting the facilities and just need more booster support they axed a lot of programs so football and basketball can be king, and not just forever in the MAC New York States university is too big to stay in the MAC forever You are allowing yourself to be influenced by the zealous PTR. Where they are is where they are suited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, JohnC said: You are allowing yourself to be influenced by the zealous PTR. Where they are is where they are suited. He has no influence on me. I have been around the program since they have started it back up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He has no influence on me. I have been around the program since they have started it back up If you have been around the program for a long time then you know very well that it doesn't resonate very much around the region and to an extent on campus. I'm not knocking UB. I'm happy and excited how the basketball and football programs have been elevated. I root for them and I would love to see greater fan support, especially in the football program. It just seems to me that the MAC is a good fit UB. Although it is not considered to be a tier 1 league this mid-level league offers a good level of competition and an entertaining product. UB is in a good situation and should be proud of what they have accomplished in both basketball and football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Just now, JohnC said: If you have been around the program for a long time then you know very well that it doesn't resonate very much around the region and to an extent on campus. I'm not knocking UB. I'm happy and excited how the basketball and football programs have been elevated. I root for them and I would love to see greater fan support, especially in the football program. It just seems to me that the MAC is a good fit UB. Although it is not considered to be a tier 1 league this mid-level league offers a good level of competition and an entertaining product. UB is in a good situation and should be proud of what they have accomplished in both basketball and football. It not a bad league and I love the MAC... but UB is spending millions on its facilities and cutting other D1 programs to boost football and basketball they have branded themselves as the New York State university like a Ohio State or Penn State. They need more boosters but that can come with time and wins Like I said this isn’t a 1-2 year project I’m talking about... in 15 years they will be ready.. and they want to make the jump when it comes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: It not a bad league and I love the MAC... but UB is spending millions on its facilities and cutting other D1 programs to boost football and basketball they have branded themselves as the New York State university like a Ohio State or Penn State. They need more boosters but that can come with time and wins Like I said this isn’t a 1-2 year project I’m talking about... in 15 years they will be ready.. and they want to make the jump when it comes The University of Maryland thought that jumping up to the Big 10 football oriented league would elevate their sports programs and generate more revenue. For a variety of reasons including not being competitive on the football field the large amount of money used to upgrade the facilities has fiscally sunk the athletic department. What makes it even more upsetting is that many secondary sports programs were killed in order to subsidize the major sports programs. The school and athletic department are now in a financial crisis. And the state government is not too happy about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 hours ago, JohnC said: The University of Maryland thought that jumping up to the Big 10 football oriented league would elevate their sports programs and generate more revenue. For a variety of reasons including not being competitive on the football field the large amount of money used to upgrade the facilities has fiscally sunk the athletic department. What makes it even more upsetting is that many secondary sports programs were killed in order to subsidize the major sports programs. The school and athletic department are now in a financial crisis. And the state government is not too happy about it. That's why I think the American is where UB may eventually end up. The B1G is a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 8 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: That's why I think the American is where UB may eventually end up. The B1G is a pipe dream. I disagree with you. Without question their football programs are more advanced but geographically the schools are too widely spread out. It would be very difficult to establish rivalries with schools that are so far away. If you have trouble filling the stands on your own campus and local region you will have a paucity of traveling support. The MAC is certainly not a powerhouse conference but it is a good regional conference. There is a coherence and proximity to the region where the schools are located compared to the sprawling area of the American conference. UB is in a good situation and making the best of it. The grass is not always greener. And exploding the budget for a pipe dream at the expense of other programs is not fiscally smart but also not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, JohnC said: I disagree with you. Without question their football programs are more advanced but geographically the schools are too widely spread out. It would be very difficult to establish rivalries with schools that are so far away. If you have trouble filling the stands on your own campus and local region you will have a paucity of traveling support. The MAC is certainly not a powerhouse conference but it is a good regional conference. There is a coherence and proximity to the region where the schools are located compared to the sprawling area of the American conference. UB is in a good situation and making the best of it. The grass is not always greener. And exploding the budget for a pipe dream at the expense of other programs is not fiscally smart but also not right. The problem with the MAC is UB doesn't belong with those 2nd tier schools with directions in their name. But I agree that their athletic budget would be to be much larger just for the travel alone, in any other conference. WNY has not shown a willingness to buy tickets or donate to the program, even with them winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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