SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: wait..what?....must be a lot of people missed that. i may be wrong but i thought they were prepared to give up 2 2nds. A second and a third for AJ McCarron!!! Per the link above — The Browns reportedly appealed to the league to allow the deal, which would have sent 2018 second- and third-round picks to the Bengals, But they sent the email to a subordinate and not the lead guy. 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I remember when some of the people in this thread thought Peterman was going to do well against the Chargers. Shows what they know about QBs. Instead of trying to elicit a bad response please address Cleveland’s attempted trade for AJM last season. 2nd and 3rd in 18. What did we get for Tyrod again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 41 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Your premise is that the Browns know what they are doing. Also. What happened last season when the trade didn’t go through in time as someone forgot to check the fax machine or email? https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/early-lead/wp/2017/10/31/browns-trade-for-aj-mccarron-reportedly-fails-because-team-too-busy-celebrating-it/ funny they wanted him at the end of 16. They aren't employed any more because they were incompetent. Their replacements were the ones who opted to give up 65 for Tyrod instead of signing FA McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: They aren't employed any more because they were incompetent. Their replacements were the ones who opted to give up 65 for Tyrod instead of signing FA McCarron. Incompetent they were. Still it it doesn’t change the fact that the Browns wanted AJ McCarron. As to their replacements - a year passed as did the FO plan at Qb. I’ve said it before Tyrod will get them 5 wins or so. The question is how long do they retain him? 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Ill be willing to bet a lot of money the Browns offense under Tyrod will be better than the Bills under McCarron. Tyrod will prove he's the better QB. A friendly you were right and I was wrong bet is acceptable for me. My point was contrary to the post that the Browns didn’t want AJ. Edited May 7, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Incompetent they were. Still it it doesn’t change the fact that the Browns wanted AJ McCarron. As to their replacements - a year passed as did the FO plan at Qb. I’ve said it before Tyrod will get them 5 wins or so. The question is how long do they retain him? They wanted McCarron mid-season, when Tyrod wasn't available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Domdab99 said: If he’s as raw as everyone says he is, he should not have been drafted at #7. That horse kind of left the stable, wouldn't you say? 59 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No. My point is the Browns didn't want AJM and preferred to give up a 3rd round pick and pay Tyrod more money because they believe he's a better option as a bridge and mentor for their new QB. FIFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: They wanted McCarron mid-season, when Tyrod wasn't available. Was that when TT put up 3 sub 50 QBR games out of 4 mid season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Was that when TT put up 3 sub 50 QBR games out of 4 mid season? No, this was the end of October. The Bills were 5-2 coming off a 34-14 win over the Raiders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No. My point is the Browns didn't want AJM and preferred to give up a 3rd round pick and pay Tyrod more money because they believe he's a better option as a bridge and mentor for their new QB. FIFY Excellent edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That horse kind of left the stable, wouldn't you say? FIFY Easy call. AJM had a team loaded with weapons in CIN and produced less than Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I remember when some of the people in this thread thought Peterman was going to do well against the Chargers. Shows what they know about QBs. Why do you go to such great lengths to tear down Bills players? It’s rather odd. What team do you actually root for? 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Easy call. AJM had a team loaded with weapons in CIN and produced less than Tyrod. You sir are a bore. You have been banished to the ignore list. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Really? Yet we somehow got him for 1/3 the cap space and no draft picks given up. I guess there's a bunch of Bills fans that expect McCarron to give us better passing than we had the past 3 seasons. I would love for that to happen but I'm definitely not counting on it. If McCarron starts all year our offense will likely be one of the worst in the league across the board - and that's fine! I'd rather we deal with that for a season than ruin Allen's development. *raises hand* I've pointed out some limitations of McCarron - that overall, his offensive productivity was lower than Taylors because his passing productivity was about the same and he lacks the legs - but actually I DO expect him to give us a better passing game than we had the past 3 seasons. I expect him to make mistakes because VR (do the Bills use this?)/film are not the same as what you see on the field and that just goes with the low playing time territory. McCarron does seem to be able to make reads and progressions and throw with anticipation and into tight windows better than Taylor could, so even though the offensive productivity may be lower, I do expect the passing game to be less frustrating to watch and overall 'better' in terms of doing what a passing game should do. I also think that Daboll may be able to tailor something that will get the most out of McCarron's game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Why do you go to such great lengths to tear down Bills players? It’s rather odd. What team do you actually root for? Should I pretend every Bills' player is an All-Pro? I root for the Bills and I also want them to acquire better players as upgrades every time they have an opportunity to do so. It's no different than when Tolbert was a Buffalo Bill. Keep hope alive for marginal prospects if you wish. Edited May 7, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Should I pretend every Bills' player is an All-Pro? I root for the Bills and I also want them to acquire better players as upgrades every time they have an opportunity to do so. Keep hope alive for marginal prospects if you wish. corner I am gonna say this much....as much as I respect your posts on this board you better hope Allen does not end up being a good player...you have really painted yourself into a corner since the draft. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Why do you go to such great lengths to tear down Bills players? It’s rather odd. What team do you actually root for? You sir are a bore. You have been banished to the ignore list. What's odd is blind loyalty and football fans getting the vapors over a differing opinion. Please ignore me, too, while you're at it. You're the bore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Should I pretend every Bills' player is an All-Pro? I root for the Bills and I also want them to acquire better players as upgrades every time they have an opportunity to do so. It's no different than when Tolbert was a Buffalo Bill. Keep hope alive for marginal prospects if you wish. No but a bit of optimism doesn’t hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: corner I am gonna say this much....as much as I respect your posts on this board you better hope Allen does not end up being a good player...you have really painted yourself into a corner since the draft. I haven't pained myself into anything because his story is yet to be told. I repeat. He's a Boom or Bust prospect who has the physical tools, the intelligence, and the work ethic to make it. That does not mean he will as he has deficiencies to overcome. Edited May 7, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: corner I am gonna say this much....as much as I respect your posts on this board you better hope Allen does not end up being a good player...you have really painted yourself into a corner since the draft. Or McCarron, or Peterman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Ill be willing to bet a lot of money the Browns offense under Tyrod will be better than the Bills under McCarron. Tyrod will prove he's the better QB. then become a damn browns fan. why do you even come on here? btw , the browns have hyde, landry, gordon and what's his name te. ....and i'll take that bet right now. points scored, ypg, passing stats, you name it. easy money. at least the bills offense will be entertaining compared to the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I haven't pained myself into anything because his story is yet to be told. I repeat. He's a Boom or Bust prospect who has the physical tools, the intelligence, and the hard work to make it. That does not mean he will as he has deficiencies to overcome. Yet you campaign constantly that both AJ McCarron and Josh Allen won’t be any good. So so you are painting yourself into a corner. Feelfree to ignore this rational post as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I haven't pained myself into anything because his story is yet to be told. I repeat. He's a Boom or Bust prospect who has the physical tools, the intelligence, and the hard work to make it. That does not mean he will as he has deficiencies to overcome. that is not the story you are painting with your posts on Allen. I mean that in all sincerity I have absolutely no ax to grind with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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