HumbleAndHungry Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: His situation doesn't change the fact that he was still a rookie and if anything it would show that Peterman's play was because of his lack of talent on offense So you don't think having an elite O line is an advantage? Look at Prescotts play right now without Tyron Smith, which by the way even without smith their O line is still light years ahead of ours Edited November 22, 2017 by Finkle Is Einhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: No. Just stop. Stop what? You don't agree that if he got his bell rung he should take a breather? If you can't think clearly how do you run an efficient and effective offense. Edited November 22, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Actually Taylor did get hit hard (injured) in the game and I wondered if it effected his game. If you see stars in front of your eyes take a breather. Playing injured isn't helping the team at any position. no he wasn't. Romo was injured and they put in Prescott. when Prescott performed, he performed well, very well. he did not debut with 5 picks in the first half. Romo wasn't benched in order to debut Prescott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Where he was drafted doesn't matter. It's what kind of player he is and what has he shown on the field of play to say he's ready to be an NFL starter. The answer for me prior to last week's game was nothing and that was reaffirmed by what he demonstrated in the heat of battle. But neither did Prescott..... Last week showed he couldn't handle the pass rush. I would like to give him a pass and more than likely he was told to sling the ball like he did but he should have taken sacks. Let's be clear though he only had two options with that pass rush though, get sacked or throw it and he obviously chose the wrong thing on multiple occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Stop what? You don't agree that if he got his bell rung he should take a breather? that's for the team's medical staff and the player to decide. not the fans sitting at home. and obviously they both agreed it wasn't needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Where he was drafted doesn't matter. It's what kind of player he is and what has he shown on the field of play to say he's ready to be an NFL starter. The answer for me prior to last week's game was nothing and that was reaffirmed by what he demonstrated in the heat of battle. How does somebody show on the filed that they are starter material, when they haven't been put into a game? I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Billzgobowlin said: But neither did Prescott..... Last week showed he couldn't handle the pass rush. I would like to give him a pass and more than likely he was told to sling the ball like he did but he should have taken sacks. Let's be clear though he only had two options with that pass rush though, get sacked or throw it and he obviously chose the wrong thing on multiple occasions. Prescott had a body of work before last week. Not comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Jesus. You Defenders of Tyrod need to take a breather. Tyrod got up slowly after a hard hit. I wondered if the hit effected him. Why are you arguing this? Just now, BadLandsMeanie said: How does somebody show on the filed that they are starter material, when they haven't been put into a game? I don't understand. CopyPaste hates Nate. You will not get an unbiased opinion from him. imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: So you don't think having an elite O line is an advantage? Look at Prescotts play right now without Tyron Smith Oh no don't mistake it I think it makes a huge difference. We can't change our line though and offense is doomed to fail with any QB right now. Wonder how the game would have looked though with Glenn and Henderson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, 87168 said: that's for the team's medical staff and the player to decide. not the fans sitting at home. and obviously they both agreed it wasn't needed. You were half right. It's for the staff to decide, not the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Prescott had a body of work before last week. Not comparable. Sorry I mean his first game as starter. I'm talking about rookies starting their first game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: So you don't think having an elite O line is an advantage? Look at Prescotts play right now without Tyron Smith It should be enough to shut up all the people who keep telling me left tackle isn't the important position it used to be in the NFL and it's all about offensive weapons these days and guys who can make plays. To me the Quarterback is the most important guy on the field. Joint second is the guy you employ to keep your QB protected (primarily his blindside protector at Left Tackle) and the guy you employ to get the opponents Quarterback on the floor. I'm not quite Bill from NYC in thinking that receivers and corners are ten a penny (or 10 a cent presumably in US money) a lockdown corner and a #1WR are next on the list.... but it starts with your QB, your LT and your pass rusher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 And just to be perfectly clear I am not comparing Prescott to Peterman, that would be stupid because they are two different players with two different backgrounds. I am more comparing why the media thought it was a great idea to start a 4th round rookie for a playoff caliber team as opposed to a 5th round rookie for a downward spiraling playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Sorry I mean his first game as starter. I'm talking about rookies starting their first game Prescott was okay in his 1st game action in the regular season. He certainly didn't throw up all over himself like Not Ready Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: It should be enough to shut up all the people who keep telling me left tackle isn't the important position it used to be in the NFL and it's all about offensive weapons these days and guys who can make plays. To me the Quarterback is the most important guy on the field. Joint second is the guy you employ to keep your QB protected (primarily his blindside protector at Left Tackle) and the guy you employ to get the opponents Quarterback on the floor. I'm not quite Bill from NYC in thinking that receivers and corners are ten a penny (or 10 a cent presumably in US money) a lockdown corner and a #1WR are next on the list.... but it starts with your QB, your LT and your pass rusher. Last week the RT was the one that did the most damage but we didn't have either playing exceptionally well Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Prescott was okay in his 1st game action in the regular season. He certainly didn't throw up all over himself like Not Ready Nate. Which others attributed to a poor offensive line..... I am also talking about before they played not after. If hindsight was something we could do Peterman wouldn't have started that game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Jesus. You Defenders of Tyrod need to take a breather. Tyrod got up slowly after a hard hit. I wondered if the hit effected him. Why are you arguing this? Romo had a broken bone in his back. That's very different than taking a hit. Why are you arguing that it isn't? The situations are nowhere near comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Where he was drafted doesn't matter. It's what kind of player he is and what has he shown on the field of play to say he's ready to be an NFL starter. The answer for me prior to last week's game was nothing and that was reaffirmed by what he demonstrated in the heat of battle. He showed exactly the same as his college tape does..... inaccuracy and bad decisions. The one thing you always hear people say about Quarterbacks with a weaker arm is "smart and accurate with the football". It is so cliched.... it just isn't true. You know 26 that I am more of a Tyrod doubter than you but I totally agree with you on Peterman. I didn't think he was the answer before the draft, when we drafted him, during pre-season, or when McD named him the starter. I get that it was inevitable at some point this year they had to see what they had in him..... but they should have waited until the playoffs were basically gone. To do it last week looked risky at the time and was disastrous in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Last week the RT was the one that did the most damage but we didn't have either playing exceptionally well Which others attributed to a poor offensive line..... I am also talking about before they played not after. If hindsight was something we could do Peterman wouldn't have started that game Same OL Taylor played behind. No excuses for the purportedly "most pro ready QB in the draft" What a crock that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Last week the RT was the one that did the most damage but we didn't have either playing exceptionally well I was talking more about Tyron Smith being out for Dallas than Glenn being out for the Bills, though it certainly applies there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: He showed exactly the same as his college tape does..... inaccuracy and bad decisions. The one thing you always hear people say about Quarterbacks with a weaker arm is "smart and accurate with the football". It is so cliched.... it just isn't true. You know 26 that I am more of a Tyrod doubter than you but I totally agree with you on Peterman. I didn't think he was the answer before the draft, when we drafted him, during pre-season, or when McD named him the starter. I get that it was inevitable at some point this year they had to see what they had in him..... but they should have waited until the playoffs were basically gone. To do it last week looked risky at the time and was disastrous in hindsight. Tyrod is limited as I have said many times and the Bills need to look to the draft to find their potential franchise guy. Neither of the current QBs on the roster are that guy IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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