B-Man Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Bernie Sanders gets SCHOOLED after most ridiculous tax take ever https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/11/29/you-blithering-idiot-bernie-sanders-gets-schooled-after-most-ridiculous-tax-take-ever/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget Quote Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders FACT: Under the Republican plan, a single mother making minimum wage with two kids would get only a $75 tax credit. Meanwhile, a family making $500k with two kids would get a $4,000 tax credit. #TaxDebate 9:19 PM - Nov 28, 2017 That's because that single mom ON MINIMUM WAGE is going to pay basically nothing in taxes, you blithering idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, B-Man said: Bernie Sanders gets SCHOOLED after most ridiculous tax take ever https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/11/29/you-blithering-idiot-bernie-sanders-gets-schooled-after-most-ridiculous-tax-take-ever/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget That's because that single mom ON MINIMUM WAGE is going to pay basically nothing in taxes, you blithering idiot. But she will own a ton of national debt! This tax plan is unpatriotic and hurts the country, only benefits the wealthy while saddling the nation with enormous debt for our children and grandchildren. And the way its being rammed through Congress with little to no debate, hearings and breathtaking lies is an attack on our republican norms. Shame on the GOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And the way its being rammed through Congress with little to no debate, hearings and breathtaking lies is an attack on our republican norms. Are we still discussing Obamacare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gary M said: Are we still discussing Obamacare? There were tons of hearings, meetings, debates and discussion on Obamacare. You are really misinformed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: There were tons of hearings, meetings, debates and discussion on Obamacare. You are really misinformed "We have to pass the bill to find out what is in it"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: "We have to pass the bill to find out what is in it"... That will never get old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 16 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: "We have to pass the bill to find out what is in it"... Ignorant alert! She was talking about the House version which was still being put together. Yes, then they debate it before it gets to conference with the Senate. Gosh, you guys are so easily fooled because you don't know how our government works. 16 hours ago, Gary M said: That will never get old. I know! I love how it exposes the ignorance And this is good: http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gop-tax-bill-will-hurt-benefit-2017-11 Trump claiming that the tax cut bill doesn't help him, he will be paying more. Lies! B-Man, you hate lies, I'm sure you will have a cartoon about this...not POS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) BREAKING: McCain to vote for GOP tax bill. Be ready John, The "up and down media support is heading down . Edited November 30, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, B-Man said: BREAKING: McCain to vote for GOP tax bill. Be ready John, The "up and down media support is heading down . So much for these words: Let’s trust each other. Let’s return to regular order. We’ve been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle. That’s an approach that’s been employed by both sides, mandating legislation from the top down, without any support from the other side, with all the parliamentary maneuvers that requires. … We’ve tried to do this by coming up with a proposal behind closed doors in consultation with the administration, then springing it on skeptical members, trying to convince them it’s better than nothing, asking us to swallow our doubts and force it past a unified opposition. I don’t think that is going to work in the end. And it probably shouldn’t. … Why don’t we try the old way of legislating in the Senate, the way our rules and customs encourage us to act. If this process ends in failure, which seem likely, then let’s return to regular order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: So much for these words: Let’s trust each other. Let’s return to regular order. We’ve been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle. That’s an approach that’s been employed by both sides, mandating legislation from the top down, without any support from the other side, with all the parliamentary maneuvers that requires. … We’ve tried to do this by coming up with a proposal behind closed doors in consultation with the administration, then springing it on skeptical members, trying to convince them it’s better than nothing, asking us to swallow our doubts and force it past a unified opposition. I don’t think that is going to work in the end. And it probably shouldn’t. … Why don’t we try the old way of legislating in the Senate, the way our rules and customs encourage us to act. If this process ends in failure, which seem likely, then let’s return to regular order. Provide a link to go along with your quotes or STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Provide a link to go along with your quotes or STFU. I believe that Gator is providing McCain's response for why he voted against the Obamacare reform, because he felt that "normal Senate procedure" wasn't followed. This (of course) is a hilariously bad post by Gator because normal procedure has been followed in the Tax reform bill (thats why it has taken so long) and as I predicted earlier, Senator McCain will be attacked nonetheless. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Trump and the Republicans are driving. Democrats can come along, but they have to sit in back. It's truly sad how much of the previous administration's bull **** can be spun right back on the Democrats. Even sadder is that they're so obviously incapable of learning from it. 1 minute ago, B-Man said: I believe that Gator is providing McCain's response for why he voted against the Obamacare reform, because he felt that "normal Senate procedure" wasn't followed. This (of course) is a hilariously bad post by Gator because normal procedure has been followed in the Tax reform bill (thats why it has taken so long) and as I predicted earlier, Senator McCain will be attacked nonetheless. . No, it was from this past July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Trump and the Republicans are driving. Democrats can come along, but they have to sit in back. It's truly sad how much of the previous administration's bull **** can be spun right back on the Democrats. Even sadder is that they're so obviously incapable of learning from it. No, it was from this past July. Fair enough sir. To follow up on your point ............we have this. Dear Democrats, Never, ever, EVER quote Ronald Reagan because it will always end badly for you. God bless, Everyone Seems the Senate Democrats thought tweeting about bipartisanship and Reagan in order to stop tax reform was a good idea. Oh the stupid, it burns. Quote Senate Democrats✔@SenateDems The GOP once believed in bipartisanship. #TBT#GOPTaxScam 12:27 PM - Nov 30, 2017 Where was all of this talk about bipartisanship when the Democrats had a majority? Hrm. We seem to remember them saying things like, “Elections have consequences,” and “If you want your way, try winning an election.” But NOW that they don’t have the upper hand, and millions of Americans may actually get a tax cut, they are whining about bipartisanship. @SenateDems your party literally just voted unanimously against debating this bill............ In Democrat-speak, bipartisan means Republicans let them have their way. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Oh boy!! Is this money grab falling apart?? Har har!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said the next vote in the tax debate will come at 11 a.m. Friday, as work continues behind the scenes to win over skeptical deficit hawks and other swing votes. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/30/mccain-to-vote-for-gop-tax-bill-270511 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 hour ago, ALF said: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said the next vote in the tax debate will come at 11 a.m. Friday, as work continues behind the scenes to win over skeptical deficit hawks and other swing votes. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/30/mccain-to-vote-for-gop-tax-bill-270511 I have to think that Flake, Corker and maybe others are fearful of handing any successes to Trump. He is seen as a threat to the Republic and should be treated as such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Before they charge forward, they may want to look at Kansas. “Since the 2012 tax cut, however, Kansas’s economy has lagged behind neighboring states and its budget has been in tatters. Lawmakers were forced to make significant cuts in vital programs such as Medicaid, education, welfare, court funding, and infrastructure. Earlier this year—in the face of slow growth, two downgrades of Kansas’s bond ratings, and a budget shortfall of almost $900 million—the state’s Supreme Court mandated that Kansas increase education spending. And the Republican-led legislature reversed much of [Governor Sam] Brownback’s original tax cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Trigger to raise taxes should the theoretical growth not materialize, a responsible addition IMO, can't be included because it would defeat passage... a bit of irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) Dems letting Al Franken give a final hour floor speech against the tax bill is interesting decision... .............The moral case made by Franken................... You can't make this stuff up. ADDED: It’s official: @SenatorCollins says she’ll vote YES on the tax bill...............that makes 51 (if they ever vote) . Edited December 1, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Senate passes major tax reform legislation in significant win for Trump administration The U.S. Senate voted just before 2 a.m. ET Saturday to pass a sweeping tax overhaul worth roughly $1.4 trillion, putting the Trump White House a big step closer to its first major legislative victory. The bill is not yet finalized. Saturday's vote means the Senate and House have passed similar tax reform plans, but negotiators from both chambers will start meeting Monday to agree on a single piece of legislation that both chambers must approve before it is sent to the president for his signature. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/02/senate-passes-major-tax-reform-package.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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