bisonbrigade Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) I know its way to early but a man has to dream. (1a). QB Josh Allen, Wyoming. Has the mobility, arm strength, and played in cold weather. (1b) OT Mitch Hyatt Clemson. Have to protect new QB. (2a) S Marcus Allen Penn State. Safety to solidify secondary. (2b) DT Reginald McKenzie Jr. Kyle Williams not getting younger. (3a) WR DJ Chark LSU, Big Tall Receiver that new management likes (3b) CB Carlton Davis Auburn. Cornerback depth. Edited August 12, 2017 by bisonbrigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (1a). QB Josh Allen, Wyoming. Has the mobility, arm strength, and played in cold weather. (1b) OT Mitch Hyatt Clemson. Have to protect new QB. (2a) S Marcus Allen Penn State. Safety to solidify secondary. (2b) DT Reginald McKenzie Jr. Kyle Williams not getting younger. (3a) WR DJ Chark LSU, Big Tall Receiver that new management likes (3b) CB Carlton Davis Auburn. Cornerback depth. Sitting through a tank year is gonna suck. Draft time is gonna be awesome tho. I really wanna compete this year tho, hopefully we pick up some quality OL talent and WR talent after cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahbonas Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Sitting through a tank year is gonna suck. Draft time is gonna be awesome tho. I really wanna compete this year tho, hopefully we pick up some quality OL talent and WR talent after cuts What 'tank' year ? We lose Sammy at WR but add Anquan Bolden and Matthews - compare this to Sammys 9 games . Its trading actual production for top potential and adding a high pick. The Darby deal was a flat out steal I know its way to early but a man has to dream. (1a). QB Josh Allen, Wyoming. Has the mobility, arm strength, and played in cold weather. (1b) OT Mitch Hyatt Clemson. Have to protect new QB. (2a) S Marcus Allen Penn State. Safety to solidify secondary. (2b) DT Reginald McKenzie Jr. Kyle Williams not getting younger. (3a) WR DJ Chark LSU, Big Tall Receiver that new management likes (3b) CB Carlton Davis Auburn. Cornerback depth. I think you have to get an OLB in those early rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman00 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wow, I can't believe how many people are saying we are tanking because we traded our best player who coincidentally hasn't played in 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 What 'tank' year ? We lose Sammy at WR but add Anquan Bolden and Matthews - compare this to Sammys 9 games . Its trading actual production for top potential and adding a high pick. The Darby deal was a flat out steal I think you have to get an OLB in those early rounds A healthy Sammy is > Bolden and Matthews at this stage in their careers. You can spin it however you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Im very skeptical of Allen at this point...needs to increase is completion percentage this year. 56% aint gunna cut it for a potential top pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 From what I've seen of Allen I was not impressed at all. He seems really erratic with his accuracy and decision making. He's a tall and athletic white kid who has been under center so naturally he's going to get hyped to the moon but I just don't see it yet with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wow, I can't believe how many people are saying we are tanking because we traded our best player who coincidentally hasn't played in 2 years. Tank is not the correct word...Its try to win now with an eye on the future...very smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahbonas Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 A healthy Sammy is > Bolden and Matthews at this stage in their careers. You can spin it however you want. Matthews had 83 catches last year and is 25.... a tank is when you dump players for picks only or salary cap only - we added 3 players - all starters in NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I know its way to early but a man has to dream. (1a). QB Josh Allen, Wyoming. Has the mobility, arm strength, and played in cold weather. (1b) OT Mitch Hyatt Clemson. Have to protect new QB. (2a) S Marcus Allen Penn State. Safety to solidify secondary. (2b) DT Reginald McKenzie Jr. Kyle Williams not getting younger. (3a) WR DJ Chark LSU, Big Tall Receiver that new management likes (3b) CB Carlton Davis Auburn. Cornerback depth. I like it. What's scary is, those are all need picks and you didn't address linebacker. We have a lot of holes for this new scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Matthews had 83 catches last year and is 25.... a tank is when you dump players for picks only or salary cap only - we added 3 players - all starters in NFL Factor in Matthews drops. Dude was getting cut. The eagles brought in a lot of talent at WR. Why? well figure it out. This was all about the draft picks. Im fine with that but dont bull **** the fanbase and act like you wanna compete by telling me your gonna start a 40 yr old at WR and that should tell us your "not throwing in the towel" gtfo with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 My guess is that the Bills draft a QB with a high floor. If they are going to jettison TT they are going to be sure that the guy that they get is at least starting caliber. They won't swing at a boom or bust guy. These guys are fairly conservative as well. Expect the QB to have a long resume and a pro ready skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 My guess is that the Bills draft a QB with a high floor. If they are going to jettison TT they are going to be sure that the guy that they get is at least starting caliber. They won't swing at a boom or bust guy. These guys are fairly conservative as well. Expect the QB to have a long resume and a pro ready skill set. To me this would be Rosen at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) To me this would be Rosen at this point. Agreed, although I can see this new regime passing on him cause his leadership is a question Edited August 12, 2017 by WMDman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 To me this would be Rosen at this point.That's what I keep coming back to as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Sitting through a tank year is gonna suck. Draft time is gonna be awesome tho. I really wanna compete this year tho, hopefully we pick up some quality OL talent and WR talent after cuts Yes, replacing Watkins and Darby with NFL players is worth a few wins. My god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 That's what I keep coming back to as well. Darnold and more specifically Allen have a lot to prove...i dont like allens accuracy issues at this point. Lamar Jackson is interesting but i feel is Very similar to Tyrod skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yes, replacing Watkins and Darby with NFL players is worth a few wins. My god. Instead of a #1 WR with game changing ability and speed, we have threee #2s and #3s. One WR in his 40s basically and another that drops more passes than Holmes is dropping in TC. Gaines wont even start. The draft pick value was there but still not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Instead of a #1 WR with game changing ability and speed, we have threee #2s and #3s. One WR in his 40s basically and another that drops more passes than Holmes is dropping in TC. Gaines wont even start. The draft pick value was there but still not a fan. So? Watkins barely sees the field. Who's to say that changes this year? Matthews is a good receiver. And Darby was an average corner last year. They didn't dump players. They certainly didn't give up any wins with these deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Darnold and more specifically Allen have a lot to prove...i dont like allens accuracy issues at this point. Lamar Jackson is interesting but i feel is Very similar to Tyrod skill set.Rudolph, Falk and Mayfield all have a chance to fit that criteria as well (especially Rudolph IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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