GunnerBill Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Government using an eminent domain argument to take over an entertainment business? Uh...no. That is called Communism. Americans think any kind of Government intervention is communism. This would certainly not be communism. It wouldn't be a good idea either mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 preposterous "Eminent domain” is a legal term that refers to the ability of a government to seize PRIVATE LAND...... not businesses or people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Americans think any kind of Government intervention is communism. This would certainly not be communism. It wouldn't be a good idea either mind you. Uh...government taking over private business is EXACTLY what communism is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Uh...government taking over private business is EXACTLY what communism is. No it isn't. It is something many communist regimes have done but it is not in and of itself communism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Please enlighten us ole wise one as to what exactly communism is. I just love people who want to argue for the sake of arguing. Look at me, look how smart I am. Here, over here, look at me. I can take a simple analogy and nitpick on it to make it wrong based on semantics. Over here, me, look, I'm right here. I'm the smartest person you know. Communism is communal sharing and ownership of all resources and property at its most basic level. The government taking over a privately held franchise turns it into communal ownership of that organization, thus the communism analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Regarding the -ism's ... this could be Communism, or if you held to the light a certain way at noon, it could be socialism. The -ism's are as well defined as a jelly fish that way. Communism or Socialism with a few rare exceptions, end up sucking for their people. Ask Venezuela. ---------------------- Author asserts community ownership is righteous and will make everyone happier. I doubt it. Sure Green Bay is a success. But could you imagine Mayor Brown or Marc Poloncarz running the Bills better than the Pegulas? Bill DeBlasio running the Jets and Giants? Oh wait, that would be a pol from New Jersey. State of the ever falling bond rating. Because you know, government is so efficient with other peoples money. Government should do the bare minimum in people's lives. Including not running a football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Americans think any kind of Government intervention is communism. This would certainly not be communism. It wouldn't be a good idea either mind you. I have another point many people miss as well. Aren't taxpayer funded stadiums/teams socialist as well? The owners don't seem too opposed to socialism when it benefits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Regarding the -ism's ... this could be Communism, or if you held to the light a certain way at noon, it could be socialism. The -ism's are as well defined as a jelly fish that way. Communism or Socialism with a few rare exceptions, end up sucking for their people. Ask Venezuela. ---------------------- Author asserts community ownership is righteous and will make everyone happier. I doubt it. Sure Green Bay is a success. But could you imagine Mayor Brown or Marc Poloncarz running the Bills better than the Pegulas? Bill DeBlasio running the Jets and Giants? Oh wait, that would be a pol from New Jersey. State of the ever falling bond rating. Because you know, government is so efficient with other peoples money. Government should do the bare minimum in people's lives. Including not running a football team. I agree. Now local and state governments need to actually do that. They can start by stopping their donations of money to billionaires to build stadiums. If the taxpayers are going to foot the bill they probably should own the team as Green Bay does. Private individuals need to own the team or the city needs to own the team. It shouldn't be a system where taxpayers contribute to the supposed private business. Most of us don't reap any benefits from our fellow taxpayers until we collect social security. Why should NFL owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaskerTough Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 The Green Bay Packers Model is NOT Communism. If anything, it's a working dictatorship! The stocks are symbolic. You can't transfer them, you get no voting power! Packers fans buy the stocks to insure that a committee of employees runs the team, not owners... and such a system has resulted in Title Town! The Buffalo Bills would FLOURISH under a Packers model and it would insure that our team stays in Buffalo forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 The Green Bay Packers Model is NOT Communism..... I think the point that was being made was the act of seizing a team from a private owner is something that happens in commie land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaskerTough Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Yea that article is silly, but a communist nation doesn't really need to seize things... ya know? it's already communist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I don't think tax dollars should pay for stadiums, but the rest of this is Communistic drivel. The practice of eminent domain in the so-called common good is the exact opposite of everything we hold dear in this country. Mark davis may be an !@#$, but it's his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) I don't think tax dollars should pay for stadiums, but the rest of this is Communistic drivel. The practice of eminent domain in the so-called common good is the exact opposite of everything we hold dear in this country. Mark davis may be an !@#$, but it's his team. Any reasonable would ageee with you, as I do. I just think that these teams need to stop the money grabs from taxpayers as well. From a philosophical standpoint Mark Davis and many other NFL owners are indebted to the people/taxpayers. It may be "theirs" but they take money from the public, so they aren't completely independent. I don't see the taxpayers funding any other private business ventures. It's an absolute joke. Edited April 7, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Stadiums will be partly tax payer funded so long as the team's best the name of the hometown City. Does everyone think we'd have the same loyalty to the "Pegula Pugalists"? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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