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False. But again, Gary's been wrong at every turn on this story. Intentionally so. He'd rather cover up for crooked FBI agents and USIC officials who break the law and threaten our republic than hold them accountable -- because he's a bad person. Just like he'd rather cover up for elite pedophile rings and allow more and more children to be abused so long as his world view isn't forced to shift. 

 

Gary's not only wrong, he's proudly defending the worst elements of humanity because it's easier for him. Forget the victims. Forget the constitution. Forget the future. Gary cares not for any of those. 

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Still wrong -- the case remains open. There was never any confirmation from Huber's office. From the source: 

 

"Though the assignment has not formally ended and no official notice has been sent to the Justice Department or to lawmakers"

 

But again, Gary's been wrong each and every step here. And he continues to push information he knows to be false as fact because it covers up for the people who actually committed crimes against this country. Gary wants to protect them. Like he wants to protect pedos like Epstein. Not because he wants more kids to be harmed, but because he'd rather kids get harmed than his own world view have to change. 

 

That's the sign of a coward. A despicable coward who sits back and lets evil happen while pretending it's not. 

 

Don't be Gary. Be better than Gary.

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14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

When the people who lied to you, for four years about Trump being a Russian asset, continue to lie to you and you keep believing them -- it tells you all you need to know about your level of understanding on this topic. 

 

 

 

Except there were Russian connections.  Maybe they didn't get from A to B the right way, but they did find links.  Sater-Cohen, Don Jr's meeting about Russian adoptions(cuz you know he's a big shot in the international adoption scene).  The fact that Russia interfered is an accepted fact, even if you continue to deny it.

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Note again: he just posted a lie, got called out for doing so -- rather than acknowledge he made a mistake, he runs from it and obfuscates. 

 

Because Gary is a weak and sad person who'd rather let kids get abused than admit he's wrong. 

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Just now, daz28 said:

Except there were Russian connections.  Maybe they didn't get from A to B the right way, but they did find links.  Sater-Cohen, Don Jr's meeting about Russian adoptions(cuz you know he's a big shot in the international adoption scene).  The fact that Russia interfered is an accepted fact, even if you continue to deny it.

 

I've never denied Russians tried to interfere. Not once. They bought 100k worth of digital ads on Facebook. That's proven. 

 

But that's all they did. 

 

Those Russian connections you're mentioning aren't real. 

 

Sater was a western asset. Not a Russian asset. Like Downer. Like Mifsud. Like Halper. The meeting at Trump Tower was arranged with the US State Department's blessing, and on Fusion GPS's dime. That's not a Russian operation, that's a western intelligence operation. Who was running the western intelligence apparatus at that time? It wasn't Putin.

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I've never denied Russians tried to interfere. Not once. They bought 100k worth of digital ads on Facebook. That's proven. 

 

But that's all they did. 

 

Those Russian connections you're mentioning aren't real. 

 

Sater was a western asset. Not a Russian asset. Like Downer. Like Mifsud. Like Halper. The meeting at Trump Tower was arranged with the US State Department's blessing, and on Fusion GPS's dime. That's not a Russian operation, that's a western intelligence operation. Who was running the western intelligence apparatus at that time? It wasn't Putin.

I never said that collusion was proven.  I said that they interfered on his behalf.  Sater was likely or at least thought he was a Russian operative.  Do you really agree that Don Jr's meeting was about Russian adoptions???  Do you think he loves that????

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1 minute ago, daz28 said:

I never said that collusion was proven.  I said that they interfered on his behalf. 

 

They didn't interfere on Trump's behalf. That's not backed by evidence -- despite the headlines today trying to fool you into thinking that. The Russians bought 100k worth of ads that intended to favor chaos, not Trump or Clinton. They favored dividing us, not pushing us one way or the other. 

 

This is Russian GRU/FSB tactics 101. 

 

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

 Sater was likely or at least thought he was a Russian operative. 

 

He was an active western intelligence source. Meaning they knew who he was, what he was doing, and who he was working for since the 90s. No one inside US intelligence thought he was a Russian operative. That's a canard. 

 

3 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Do you really agree that Don Jr's meeting was about Russian adoptions???  Do you think he loves that????

 

Who set that meeting up? Do you know? It wasn't Trump. It wasn't the Russians. It was British intelligence (through a music producer tied to Richard Dearlove). 

 

Who did the Russian lawyer meet with immediately before the meeting took place and then again immediately after? Do you know? It was a man named Glenn Simpson. Do you know who he is? Do you also know that he testified to this fact? 

 

Who was the only other person in the room who wasn't a Russian or a Trump team member? Do you know? The interpreter. Do you know who the interpreter worked for at the State Department for years? Clinton. 

 

Back to that Russian lawyer, do you know that she was barred from entering the country before that meeting by the US State Department? And did you know that in order to make that meeting with Don Jr she needed an emergency VISA request granted by the State Department just to enter the country? Did you also know she got one, overnight, at the request of the Obama Administration? 

 

That entire meeting was a set up. From top to bottom. Started by MI6, cultivated by Fusion GPS, and aided by the US State Department. 

 

Those are all facts. Not speculations. How many were you aware of before? Honestly...

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14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

They didn't interfere on Trump's behalf. That's not backed by evidence -- despite the headlines today trying to fool you into thinking that. The Russians bought 100k worth of ads that intended to favor chaos, not Trump or Clinton. They favored dividing us, not pushing us one way or the other. 

 

This is Russian GRU/FSB tactics 101. 

 

 

He was an active western intelligence source. Meaning they knew who he was, what he was doing, and who he was working for since the 90s. No one inside US intelligence thought he was a Russian operative. That's a canard. 

 

 

Who set that meeting up? Do you know? It wasn't Trump. It wasn't the Russians. It was British intelligence (through a music producer tied to Richard Dearlove). 

 

Who did the Russian lawyer meet with immediately before the meeting took place and then again immediately after? Do you know? It was a man named Glenn Simpson. Do you know who he is? Do you also know that he testified to this fact? 

 

Who was the only other person in the room who wasn't a Russian or a Trump team member? Do you know? The interpreter. Do you know who the interpreter worked for at the State Department for years? Clinton. 

 

Back to that Russian lawyer, do you know that she was barred from entering the country before that meeting by the US State Department? And did you know that in order to make that meeting with Don Jr she needed an emergency VISA request granted by the State Department just to enter the country? Did you also know she got one, overnight, at the request of the Obama Administration? 

 

That entire meeting was a set up. From top to bottom. Started by MI6, cultivated by Fusion GPS, and aided by the US State Department. 

 

Those are all facts. Not speculations. How many were you aware of before? Honestly...

But do you believe what he said the meeting was about?

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47 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I believe Don Jr went into the meeting hoping to get dirt on his father's opponent. The meeting was designed to bait him with just that promise. 

 

(But that also is not illegal)

So he perjured himself?  Do we have to go to Ghouliani's tree of the poisonous fruit again?

 

Btw, thanks for your honesty

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15 minutes ago, daz28 said:

So he perjured himself? 

 

He didn't perjure himself. He spent 27 hours before congress testifying with everyone trying to get him to do precisely that -- but he didn't. 

 

Because meeting with people claiming to have dirt on your opponent isn't a crime. Even if they're Russians. 

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7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

He didn't perjure himself. He spent 27 hours before congress testifying with everyone trying to get him to do precisely that -- but he didn't. 

 

Because meeting with people claiming to have dirt on your opponent isn't a crime. Even if they're Russians. 

He said it was about Russian adoptions.  Was that the truth?

 

 

Also, some may disagree with your assertion it's legal:  A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

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5 minutes ago, daz28 said:

He said it was about Russian adoptions.  Was that the truth?

 

Adoptions is what Trump Jr said Natalia discussed. That's why he left. He went there under the pretense of hearing about Clinton. This is clear in his testimony to Congress. There's a big difference between what you're stating and what actually happened. 

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Adoptions is what Trump Jr said Natalia discussed. That's why he left. He went there under the pretense of hearing about Clinton. This is clear in his testimony to Congress. There's a big difference between what you're stating and what actually happened. 

Sorry I added this later:  

 

Also, some may disagree with your assertion it's legal:  A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

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