MAJBobby Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 But it was a 20 yard gain or thereabouts. No way Clay scores on that play. He doesn't have the breakaway speed to outrun that safety. You are being awful nitpicky. Completing a 20 yard pass isn't good enough for you. Taylor is never going to become Tom Brady/Dan Marino. Get over it. You obviously have your mind made up about Tyrod and how much you hate him. Carry on... Stay closed off to a point carry on I just watched 4 plays in 2nd half out of 1st that Tyrod was responsible for the pressure. But your right someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I will say this.....Miami's game could have been even worse then it was given the amount of times TT escaped from what would have been sacks on other QBs and made things happen.....he generated 3 scores in this game with backups to backups to throw to.....and a defense that gave up 200 yards rushing to ONE player This is a way underappreciated part of Tyrod's strength in my opinion. Can you imagine how many times a guy like EJ or Kyle Orton would be sacked if they were leading this team instead of Tyrod? If that was the case, you would see a lot of people on here screaming about how horrible the offensive line is. But every time Tyrod avoids a sack, which is quite often in games, people forget that the play could have been a total disaster with a less mobile qb in there. People forget how many times the offensive line screws up. It is much lesser factor because Tyrod avoids more of those sacks than he takes. Granted if you have a guy like Brady or Rogers or Rivers who can get rid of the ball accurately within 2 seconds, then pass protection isn't a big concern. But we don't have those guys and we aren't likely to get one anytime soon. I just can't fathom how much worse this offense would look with another EJ in there or another wannabe rookie. And those are your options folks. Until the Bills draft another above average talented quarterback you simply aren't going to find better than what we have. It sure as hell ain't perfect. But man it is better than we have had since Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 This is a way underappreciated part of Tyrod's strength in my opinion. Can you imagine how many times a guy like EJ or Kyle Orton would be sacked if they were leading this team instead of Tyrod? If that was the case, you would see a lot of people on here screaming about how horrible the offensive line is. But every time Tyrod avoids a sack, which is quite often in games, people forget that the play could have been a total disaster with a less mobile qb in there. People forget how many times the offensive line screws up. It is much lesser factor because Tyrod avoids more of those sacks than he takes. Granted if you have a guy like Brady or Rogers or Rivers who can get rid of the ball accurately within 2 seconds, then pass protection isn't a big concern. But we don't have those guys and we aren't likely to get one anytime soon. I just can't fathom how much worse this offense would look with another EJ in there or another wannabe rookie. And those are your options folks. Until the Bills draft another above average talented quarterback you simply aren't going to find better than what we have. It sure as hell ain't perfect. But man it is better than we have had since Bledsoe. But not one person that is critical of him takes that away. But doesnt he cause some of those pressures at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 This is a way underappreciated part of Tyrod's strength in my opinion. Can you imagine how many times a guy like EJ or Kyle Orton would be sacked if they were leading this team instead of Tyrod? If that was the case, you would see a lot of people on here screaming about how horrible the offensive line is. But every time Tyrod avoids a sack, which is quite often in games, people forget that the play could have been a total disaster with a less mobile qb in there. People forget how many times the offensive line screws up. It is much lesser factor because Tyrod avoids more of those sacks than he takes. Granted if you have a guy like Brady or Rogers or Rivers who can get rid of the ball accurately within 2 seconds, then pass protection isn't a big concern. But we don't have those guys and we aren't likely to get one anytime soon. I just can't fathom how much worse this offense would look with another EJ in there or another wannabe rookie. And those are your options folks. Until the Bills draft another above average talented quarterback you simply aren't going to find better than what we have. It sure as hell ain't perfect. But man it is better than we have had since Bledsoe. We just need a QB competent enough to break the playoff drought and change the culture. He's our best chance to do that for the next few years. Ideally we groom his successor in the meantime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Where the hell is Seantral. I've seen enough of this nonsense. Honestly Mills should be released for that performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Backing up my Ball placement theory. Currently Tyrod Taylor's YAC percentage sits at 33..6%. The QBs that are lower than him include: Josh McCown 33.1% Shaun Hill 30.1% Matt Barkley 29.5% Charlie Whithurst 20.3% So he is dead last in the NFL in YAC % of yards eventhough he is 18th in Yards. QBs he is often compared too Alex Smith - 50.1% Russel Wilson - 45.4% Andy Dalton - 41.0% http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-air-yards/2016/ Have to add this to because the argument will be but look who he is throwing to this year. Well last year his YAC% was 37.5% which made him 3rd worse tied with Winston (37.5) and slightly better than Ben, an anomaly for him normally in the high 40s (37.3%) Edited October 26, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Backing up my Ball placement theory. Currently Tyrod Taylor's YAC percentage sits at 33..6%. The QBs that are lower than him include: Josh McCown 33.1% Shaun Hill 30.1% Matt Barkley 29.5% Charlie Whithurst 20.3% So he is dead last in the NFL in YAC % of yards eventhough he is 18th in Yards. QBs he is often compared too Alex Smith - 50.1% Russel Wilson - 45.4% Andy Dalton - 41.0% http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-air-yards/2016/ Have to add this to because the argument will be but look who he is throwing to this year. Well last year his YAC% was 37.5% which made him 3rd worse tied with Winston (37.5) and slightly better than Ben, an anomaly for him normally in the high 40s (37.3%) This and the anti clutch stats have confrimed my feeling that Tyrod is not leading receivers and that it really hurts you late in a game when they know you're going to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Where the hell is Seantral. I've seen enough of this nonsense. Honestly Mills should be released for that performance.That's a good question. That performance by Mills might be the worst performance by a Bills player this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Unforced errors.. bad throws/ How did the O Line do?/ What mistakes are on the O-Line.. what ones are not? PLAYS OF NOTE Q1: TT executes accurate roll out throw to Hunter Q1: 6:18 - Jordan Mills is beaten around the edge by Wake forcing TT to scramble Q1: 5:48 - UNFORCED ERROR - Delay of game on TT Q1 5:14 - Mills beaten again by Wake.. gives up a sack Q1 :58 - UNFORCED ERROR - Poorly thrown fade route to Hunter Q2: - TT executes nice completion over the deep middle Q2 - UNFORCED ERROR - TT bails out of pocket early and doesn't see open Hunter on hitch route Q2: 3:12 - Excellent intermediate seam pass to Clay Q2: 2:35 - Great execution on timing route fitting ball into tight window between two defenders to Clay Q2: 1:04 - UNFORCED ERROR - TT throws behind Goodwin on critical 3rd down slant Q3 - 6:00 - Bomb to Goodwin.. a thing of beauty Q4 - 15:00 - Incognito beaten to the inside.. TT still makes solid throw with guy in his face Q4: UNFORCED ERROR - Sack.. TT locks onto #1 read too long and takes sack because he doesn't look for other options soon enough Q4 : 8: 02 - Mills blows assignment causing pressure Q4: 3:56 - Mills and Miller allow Suh to get through untouched allowing him to blow up called screen play. Should have at least chipped him Q4: Mills beaten by Wake again Q4: 2:20 - Cordy Glenn is pushed back into TT causing sack Q4 1:43 - Suh blows by John Miller Q4 1:37 - Holding on Jordan Mills Q4 1:05 - Wake breaks through a double team of Mills and Miller and gets pressure Q4: 51 - UNFORCED ERROR - TT doesn't trust protection and throws ball out of back of end zone unnecessarily Q4: - Excellent deep middle throw to Tate at goal line setting up TD Nice Work BoBreh! Thanks for these. Everyone was ready to crucify Tyrod but he played similar to the last few games, we shoulda started Gillislee from the jump and rested McCoy while pounding the run. Seemed like Lynn outsmarted himself. Tyrod is progressing but this fanbase is so QB starved they got the pitchforks out early and often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 Nice Work BoBreh! Thanks for these. Everyone was ready to crucify Tyrod but he played similar to the last few games, we shoulda started Gillislee from the jump and rested McCoy while pounding the run. Seemed like Lynn outsmarted himself. Tyrod is progressing but this fanbase is so QB starved they got the pitchforks out early and often. Thanks...hard to find objective peoples round these parts nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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