Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Not gone, they are on IR, likely will see an injury settlement with Harvin. Bradham will likely be back. Don't think is injury was that serious, but timing was such wouldn't be gback in time and numbers were getting thin. Bradham and Harvin are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBBullsfan Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I'd like to see Whaley get fired. He has found some diamonds in the rough but he also strikes out a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Yeah so what, he missed on a 1st round QB, he can join an extremely long list of other GMs who've done the same, many multiple times . But anyway I would like to add drafting of EJ Manual in the first round. No matter what you say that wasn't Nix's decision alone. Whaley was on board 100% of the way with picking EJ. In fact because Nix was leaving I think it was more Whaley's choice than Nix's. So where would you find someone out there better. I do think Matt Millon is available. Good GM's are all hired, bad ones may be available. Think it's harder to find someone who's never been a GM before and project how he'll do as a GM than it is with a HC candidate. I'd like to see Whaley get fired. He has found some diamonds in the rough but he also strikes out a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Not gone, they are on IR, likely will see an injury settlement with Harvin. Bradham will likely be back. Don't think is injury was that serious, but timing was such wouldn't be gback in time and numbers were getting thin. I don't see Bradham resigning here. He is not a good fit for the defense we run. Whaley will follow his Pittsburgh roots and draft his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrewyLouie Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 You sure that you're not the one off base? Bradham and Harvin are gone. o.k. I'm glad you admitted the Bills aren't in good shape with the salary cap. They have to let at least two starters go because they can't fit them under the cap. On top of that they don't have much room under the cap. They will gain a little because the cap will go up but not a whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 o.k. I'm glad you admitted the Bills aren't in good shape with the salary cap. They have to let at least two starters go because they can't fit them under the cap. On top of that they don't have much room under the cap. They will gain a little because the cap will go up but not a whole lot. I admitted no such thing. Nigel Bradham, Percy Harvin, Mario Williams, and Kyle Williams all gone. Clay will be restructured We can get much cheaper replacements that are younger and fit the scheme we are running AND add a key player or two. I could see us finding a cheaper LB in FA or the draft. We can also find a NT for much less money than a pass-rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Do you mind telling me what Whaley has done to deserve being fired? Because he's easily the best GM this team has had since John Butler. that's not really saying much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) o.k. I'm glad you admitted the Bills aren't in good shape with the salary cap. They have to let at least two starters go because they can't fit them under the cap. On top of that they don't have much room under the cap. They will gain a little because the cap will go up but not a whole lot. Harvin is pretty much retired... Bills will easily be able to clear up at least $20-30 million by restructuring Mario(saving $9-10+ million), converting Clay roster bonus to a signing bonus(saving 7.5 million), Cutting McKelvin($3.9 million savings), and factoring in the increase in the cap on top of that...this isn't even delving into potential other things the Bills can do, which they likely already have planned. If they cut Williams they would save $12 million. Edited December 13, 2015 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I admitted no such thing. Nigel Bradham, Percy Harvin, Mario Williams, and Kyle Williams all gone. Clay will be restructured We can get much cheaper replacements that are younger and fit the scheme we are running AND add a key player or two. I could see us finding a cheaper LB in FA or the draft. We can also find a NT for much less money than a pass-rusher. Great, tear apart what has been a good defense, to let Ryan implement his scheme. If the players here weren't good for his scheme, he shouldn't have been hired. I don't see this team making much progress for at least a few seasons if Ryan is the coach. And even then, there is no guarantee. Treading water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I'd like to see them buy out Rex, promote Roman, and get Schwartz back to run the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Great, tear apart what has been a good defense, to let Ryan implement his scheme. If the players here weren't good for his scheme, he shouldn't have been hired. I don't see this team making much progress for at least a few seasons if Ryan is the coach. And even then, there is no guarantee. Treading water. What would be treading water is living in the past. Mario and Kyle are not spring chickens. It's not an accident that Kyle is out all the time and injured. Mario is not worth 20 million a year. Running a 4-3 scheme next year to make it fit old, declining players is worse than treading water actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I'd like to see Whaley get fired. He has found some diamonds in the rough but he also strikes out a lot. Absolutely NOT!!! He's building this team right. We just have the wrong head coach for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrewyLouie Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Great poll, it's nice to find out that not all fans drink the kool aid and walk around with blinders on. The smarter fans can see the inept people at the top making poor football decisions. No matter how hard the kool aid drinkers try to sugar coat it this is STILL a NON PLAYOFF, losing team. 16 years in row kool aid drinkers. Explain that one away! HA HA HA HA Oh wait kool aid kids, here's what you can say: They lose because of the officials. The whole league, the officials, and the rest of the world are all out to get the Bills. It's a huge conspiracy against Buffalo. It's probably the same people who were in on the conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Keep Whaley. I really want to like rex, but the only thing this team has done all year is under achieve at critical times. I don't know where that takes us or who to fault but rex is in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrewyLouie Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) I'd like to see them buy out Rex, promote Roman, and get Schwartz back to run the defense. I don't think Schwartz would come back. I think he would turn it down. How did Rex con the Pegula's into signing him?? He must have dazzled them with his bull shiit. Edited December 14, 2015 by ScrewyLouie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Great poll, it's nice to find out that not all fans drink the kool aid and walk around with blinders on. The smarter fans can see the inept people at the top making poor football decisions. No matter how hard the kool aid drinkers try to sugar coat it this is STILL a NON PLAYOFF, losing team. 16 years in row kool aid drinkers. Explain that one away! HA HA HA HA Oh wait kool aid kids, here's what you can say: They lose because of the officials. The whole league, the officials, and the rest of the world are all out to get the Bills. It's a huge conspiracy against Buffalo. It's probably the same people who were in on the conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy. LOL Add to that a team cap number of 152 million for next year after all that losing. One of the highest in the league going into 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 In all seriousness I think there is alot to that as he has that kind of persona about him. And he was able to take a team to 2 AFC championship games. He must have dazzled them with his bull shiit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Rex is too dumb to coach in today's NFL. Both he and Waley hire low IQ thugs who they should know will let you down in the important games. eg. Incognito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) What would be treading water is living in the past. Mario and Kyle are not spring chickens. It's not an accident that Kyle is out all the time and injured. Mario is not worth 20 million a year. Running a 4-3 scheme next year to make it fit old, declining players is worse than treading water actually. I think the reason they have been treading water is because they while they patch up one area, another hole pops up somewhere else. Changing schemes is a big part of that. The Steelers for example, have stayed pretty good, because they have keep the same 3-4 Defensive scheme, and draft accordingly. I think those guys are old too, but Ryan shouldn't have been hired if he wasn't going to get the most out of the guys that were in place. Now they have to revamp, and are going to try to make the linebackers the playmakers for the defense...they are the worst unit on the defense, so Ryan is starting from scratch. Treading water.. Edited December 14, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I think the reason they have been treading water is because they while they patch up one area, another hole pops up somewhere else. Changing schemes is a big part of that. The Steelers for example, have stayed pretty good, because they have keep the same 3-4 Defensive scheme, and draft accordingly. I think those guys are old too, but Ryan shouldn't have been hired if he wasn't going to get the most out of the guys that were in place. Now they have to revamp, and are going to try to make the linebackers the playmakers for the defense...they are the worst unit on the defense, so Ryan is starting from scratch. Treading water.. You might be right about the Rex hire. But the Pegulas wanted the best coach and they decided on Rex. Now that he is here there is no point in going back. We can't go back in time. Rex is here. Do you want to run a 3-4 and Rex's D next year or a 4-3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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