TSOL Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Check Peyton Manning's first 14 starts! Dont break your arm patting yourself on the back for spearheading the effort against him. EJ is not Peyton Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) And there it is folks, the crux of the arguement for or against EJ Manuel has reared its ugly head But sure, lets bring in a brand new guy and start ALL OVER AGAIN! That argument always made me want to eat my own brain. The idea that you can't bring in a new guy to develop and evaluate without tossing your current project makes no sense to me. I'd say we did exactly that and it appears both benefited from it. Edited September 7, 2015 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) That argument always made me want to eat my own brain. The idea that you can't bring in a new guy to develop and evaluate without tossing your current project makes no sense to me. I'd say we did exactly that and it appears both benefited from it.It dosent appear we have benefited from that to me right now. Now we have a divided fan base, and all the optimists are wonderful, but do you really belive a first time starter isnt going to go through some significant growing pains? Tyrod showed some things in preaseason, but the same opinion propping up TT's preseason performance is discounting Ej's statiscally superior preseason performance. Edited September 7, 2015 by mastershake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 That argument always made me want to eat my own brain. The idea that you can't bring in a new guy to develop and evaluate without tossing your current project makes no sense to me. I'd say we did exactly that and it appears both benefited from it. 1 position per team Rob! We gave up on Woods by drafting Sammy! Dont break your arm patting yourself on the back for spearheading the effort against him. EJ is not Peyton Manning Check Aikman's first 14 starts! Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 It dosent appear we have benefited from that to me right now. Now we have a divided fan base, and all the optimists are wonderful, but do you really belive a first time starter isnt going to go through some significant growing pains? I don't think the fan base is nearly as divided as when we were "all in" on a single player. And unless you're saying TT should be backing up Manuel, I don't see how we haven't benefited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) 1 position per team Rob! We gave up on Woods by drafting Sammy! Check Aikman's first 14 starts! Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for 3 years. Stop it, your drunk, check out Joe Montanas first 14 game, Check out Flaccos first 14 games, stop just throwing names out there. Edited September 7, 2015 by mastershake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Stop it, your drunk, check out Joe Montanas first 14 game, Check out Flaccos first 14 games, stop just throwing names out there. Number of starts is the relevant stat. The number of years one has spent in the league is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Stop it, your drunk, check out Joe Montanas first 14 game, Check out Flaccos first 14 games, stop just throwing names out there. Alex Smith! Favre! Steve Young! Edited September 7, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I find it interesting that folks don't accept what the regime has done and roll with it. Tyrod starts. EJ backs him up. The Bills are in a win now mode due to the money tied up in the defensive line. thats a rare moment. Gotta take advantage. Just ask Seattle How about we rally around the team? and hope both EJ and Tyrod continue their proverbial ascension. That really is the best option isn't it ? Go Bills! Here, Here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I don't think the fan base is nearly as divided as when we were "all in" on a single player. And unless you're saying TT should be backing up Manuel, I don't see how we haven't benefited. Tyrod has yet to play a game. I ask you again, do you think he will have some trouble as a starter, or do you honestly belive hes gonna come out like brady and throw for 3 touchdowns a game for 325 yrd? Or do you think hes going to have his troubles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Tyrod has yet to play a game. I ask you again, do you think he will have some trouble as a starter, or do you honestly belive hes gonna come out like brady and throw for 3 touchdowns a game for 325 yrd? Or do you think hes going to have his troubles? All young QB's struggle. Check Jim Kelly's first 14 starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Tyrod has yet to play a game. I ask you again, do you think he will have some trouble as a starter, or do you honestly belive hes gonna come out like brady and throw for 3 touchdowns a game for 325 yrd? Or do you think hes going to have his troubles? I think he'll have some growing pains. Despite those growing pains I think he still gives us a better chance to win than Manuel. I also think (although it's just my belief and can't be proven) that Manuel is better now and has a better chance for long-term success because he got to ride the pine last year and because he was made to compete for his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I agree that the competition has done nothing but benefited them both, due to starts and preseason performance i feel that EJ is the best choice right now, but who the heck am i? Im just a big cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I agree that the competition has done nothing but benefited them both, due to starts and preseason performance i feel that EJ is the best choice right now, but who the heck am i? Im just a big cup... Indeed. I kind of think EJ played the best in preseason, but can see the additional something TT brings to the table. They both had sensational preseason performances, though. (I know TT always looks very good in preseason, and EJ does at times as well.) But I don't really see a divided fan base, this year (with the exception of some message board outliers). Most seem to be solidly behind TT as the starter--even those who might have preferred EJ. As far as I can tell, the fan base is more united and behind the QB situation at OBD than it has been in 10 years or so. Now, let's see what happens when the games start counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 14 games? To evaluate a QB? That's like trying to get an ab workout in 6 minutes. May I present to you an excercise known as planking? You do a 6 minute plank and your abs will not feel like a second more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Indeed. I kind of think EJ played the best in preseason, but can see the additional something TT brings to the table. They both had sensational preseason performances, though. (I know TT always looks very good in preseason, and EJ does at times as well.) But I don't really see a divided fan base, this year (with the exception of some message board outliers). Most seem to be solidly behind TT as the starter--even those who might have preferred EJ. As far as I can tell, the fan base is more united and behind the QB situation at OBD than it has been in 10 years or so. Now, let's see what happens when the games start counting. Dont get me wrong, im behind Tyrad as Bills starter, sorta. Ive made my opinion crystal clear though, i hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You would know, as you can't get any more hypocritical than that, Kyle! Yea I've called you slow and dropped inside jokes from my favorite nick jr show. Sorry you're a butthurt Casselhead. Sucks to hop on the wrong train. Guess you are used to it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Indeed. I kind of think EJ played the best in preseason, but can see the additional something TT brings to the table. They both had sensational preseason performances, though. (I know TT always looks very good in preseason, and EJ does at times as well.) But I don't really see a divided fan base, this year (with the exception of some message board outliers). Most seem to be solidly behind TT as the starter--even those who might have preferred EJ. As far as I can tell, the fan base is more united and behind the QB situation at OBD than it has been in 10 years or so. Now, let's see what happens when the games start counting. ut b IMO...and it is just IMO I dont think EJ has played the best in pre season.......I think TT has EJ has scored more TDs.....he has had the bigger throws and plays....but TT has been more efficient.....he hasnt fumbled.....the team hasnt taken bad penalties with him on the field. Because a QB is more then just about big plays and is also about being the field general I take all that into consideration. This is not to say that EJ has not played well....he most certainly has but I dont buy into this "TT is 1 and EJ is 1a" crap.....TT won the job....period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 IMO...and it is just IMO I dont think EJ has played the best in pre season.......I think TT has EJ has scored more TDs.....he has had the bigger throws and plays....but TT has been more efficient.....he hasnt fumbled.....the team hasnt taken bad penalties with him on the field. Because a QB is more then just about big plays and is also about being the field general I take all that into consideration. This is not to say that EJ has not played well....he most certainly has but I dont buy into this "TT is 1 and EJ is 1a" crap.....TT won the job....period. Testify brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 IMO...and it is just IMO I dont think EJ has played the best in pre season.......I think TT has EJ has scored more TDs.....he has had the bigger throws and plays....but TT has been more efficient.....he hasnt fumbled.....the team hasnt taken bad penalties with him on the field. Because a QB is more then just about big plays and is also about being the field general I take all that into consideration. This is not to say that EJ has not played well....he most certainly has but I dont buy into this "TT is 1 and EJ is 1a" crap.....TT won the job....period. The essence of playing NFL quarterback is making the big throws and making the big plays. EJ is almost the perfect prototype NFL QB size-wise. Now his style of play on the field (preseason, I know) is looking very much like the prototype style of what winning franchise NFL QBs are asked to do. I'm not betting against Taylor because Russell Wilson has shown it can be done in that style. Having said that, EJ Manuel played preseason football in a style very similar to 9 of the last 10 Superbowl winning QBs. I actually think Manuel won the job by a nose at the wire because I put a lot more into throwing TD passes than long drives. But I will be rooting for Taylor to play great and prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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