Kemp2Warlick Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Week 15 NFL rookie report....Nickell Robey mentioned Edited December 22, 2013 by Kemp2Warlick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Woods and Robey - 2 of my favorite rookies in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 According to this, Kiko is falling off the radar for ROY. Dark skies are forming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 According to this, Kiko is falling off the radar for ROY. Dark skies are forming... Doesn't really make a difference to me whether he wins the award or not, but it is kinda funny if you imagine Kiko playing for the Jets and Richardson playing for the Bills and both had the same season they just had. Who'd be taking home that award? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 According to this, Kiko is falling off the radar for ROY. Dark skies are forming... I think either he or Richardson are deserving but IMO Kiko should win because MLB is a harder position to come into as a rookie (calling the defense) and he has played the most snaps in the league thus far, if I recall correctly. Just overall more impressive debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I think either he or Richardson are deserving but IMO Kiko should win because MLB is a harder position to come into as a rookie (calling the defense) and he has played the most snaps in the league thus far, if I recall correctly. Just overall more impressive debut. I agree, but I'm biased. Interesting thought by Sage. He'd probably be lost in the forest with our DL -people would surmise its because of Mario & Co. that he played so well. IF Kiko can somehow snag a couple more picks - a noteworthy achievement for LBs, then I think he'd win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I agree, but I'm biased. Interesting thought by Sage. He'd probably be lost in the forest with our DL -people would surmise its because of Mario & Co. that he played so well. IF Kiko can somehow snag a couple more picks - a noteworthy achievement for LBs, then I think he'd win it. You never know but he hasn't had a INT since Sept... but INTs are like icing for a MLB, not really expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) You never know but he hasn't had a INT since Sept... but INTs are like icing for a MLB, not really expected. Part of that--something I've noticed on the all-22--is that opposing team's QBs picked up on the way that Pettine was using Kiko to bait them into throwing to what looks like an open pocket of the field. Kiko had at least 2 INTs (one vs Carolins an one vs NYJ) jumping into the open gap; teams have stopped throwing into it. For me, being able to take away a passing option without even covering him says just as much about what Kiko does for this team as any statistic. Edited December 22, 2013 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Part of that--something I've noticed on the all-22--is that opposing team's QBs picked up on the way that Pettine was using Kiko to bait them into throwing to what looks like an open pocket of the field. Kiko had at least 2 INTs (one vs Carolins an one vs NYJ) jumping into the open gap; teams have stopped throwing into it. For me, being able to take away a passing option without even covering him says just as much about what Kiko does for this team as any statistic. Nice observation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Part of that--something I've noticed on the all-22--is that opposing team's QBs picked up on the way that Pettine was using Kiko to bait them into throwing to what looks like an open pocket of the field. Kiko had at least 2 INTs (one vs Carolins an one vs NYJ) jumping into the open gap; teams have stopped throwing into it. For me, being able to take away a passing option without even covering him says just as much about what Kiko does for this team as any statistic. Yep and reportedly Alonso is a film junkie, so he WILL bait the QB if given the chance. That, my friends, is a game changer as he is forcing OCs to game plan around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Part of that--something I've noticed on the all-22--is that opposing team's QBs picked up on the way that Pettine was using Kiko to bait them into throwing to what looks like an open pocket of the field. Kiko had at least 2 INTs (one vs Carolins an one vs NYJ) jumping into the open gap; teams have stopped throwing into it. For me, being able to take away a passing option without even covering him says just as much about what Kiko does for this team as any statistic. I would contend that KA was not "baiting" opponents, though it may appear so. Those were really a product of film study, recognition, and instinct. The plays in question are a combination route by WR's that have been around for 20+years. When the outside WR runs a slant, the inside WR follows. KA recognized this and just stayed in his area, then made the pick. Good recognition/ film study to anticipate the route, and a mistake by the QB to throw it. It's more like the QB anticipated that KA would vacate the area, but KA was not fooled. Either way, teams saw the mistake on film and went away from that combo route because KA defended it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I would contend that KA was not "baiting" opponents, though it may appear so. Those were really a product of film study, recognition, and instinct. The plays in question are a combination route by WR's that have been around for 20+years. When the outside WR runs a slant, the inside WR follows. KA recognized this and just stayed in his area, then made the pick. Good recognition/ film study to anticipate the route, and a mistake by the QB to throw it. It's more like the QB anticipated that KA would vacate the area, but KA was not fooled. Either way, teams saw the mistake on film and went away from that combo route because KA defended it well. I guess it's all on the semantics; I only refer to it as Pettine baiting opponents because in lieu if lining up a CB on the slot WR they just slice Kiko over there post-snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I think either he or Richardson are deserving but IMO Kiko should win because MLB is a harder position to come into as a rookie (calling the defense) and he has played the most snaps in the league thus far, if I recall correctly. Just overall more impressive debut. exactly. ILB is the QB of the D. And he is one of the best ILB's in the game, AS A ROOKIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 exactly. ILB is the QB of the D. And he is one of the best ILB's in the game, AS A ROOKIE! Playing on a losing team. get a sack or pick today and his stock rises alot . Go Kiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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