Chef Jim Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 It was a pretty freaky time in SoCal while he was on the loose. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-night-stalker-richard-ramirez-dead-natural-causes-20130607,0,4976664.story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Natural causes while on death row? Almost funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 20+ years on death row? not funny. expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Yup, he's certainly in the serial killer HOF. R.I.H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 20+ years on death row? not funny. expensive. Many years of the appeals process = more expensive. Death sentence should be carried out immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Many years of the appeals process = more expensive. Death sentence should be carried out immediately. Ramirez was pretty under rated if you ask me. AC/DC is pretty fairly rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 "Natural causes." Right. They just don't want to admit he was beheaded by The Kurgan. Good !@#$ing riddance. Now if Charles Ng would just kick off.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Ramirez was pretty under rated if you ask me. Agreed. And so was Gary Ridgway. Conversely, I though Richard Speck got too much hype for basically one night's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 "Natural causes." Right. They just don't want to admit he was beheaded by The Kurgan. Good !@#$ing riddance. Now if Charles Ng would just kick off.. Natural causes on death row should be on a gurney with a needle in your arm the day after the guilty verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Natural causes on death row should be on a gurney with a needle in your arm the day after the guilty verdict. It's too expensive. I'm sure some people out there would sacrifice a bullet to the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 "Natural causes." Right. They just don't want to admit he was beheaded by The Kurgan. Good !@#$ing riddance. Now if Charles Ng would just kick off.. I wish Manson would die of any causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I wish Manson would die of any causes. There are so many. Scott Petersen, Cary Stayner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 What kills me about this thread is that many here are wishing death and suffering for murderers. The amount of murderers in the prison systems is absolutely unreal yet people always go back to the famous murderers and claim instantaneous death because of what they did. Yet, much of the population think that correctional officers beat and abuse inmates all day. Couldn't be farther from the truth, and the amount of men in prison that have killed someone is very high. Just my view of this topic from an officers POV. A little off from the OP but still in the same room. Fwiw, I strongly believe in the death penalty and don't disagree that certain people should be out to death, I just feel there's many more that the general public has no clue about. If they did, honestly, I think the days of feeling bad for these inmates would be over. Some of the stories I've got could make you ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Natural causes on death row should be on a gurney with a needle in your arm the day after the guilty verdict. No, I'm okay with having an appeals process. Just not California's, where the method of execution seems to be "die of old age waiting for the appeals process." Why does California even have a death penalty statute, anyway? When's the last time they ever got around to executing anyone on death row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 No, I'm okay with having an appeals process. Just not California's, where the method of execution seems to be "die of old age waiting for the appeals process." Why does California even have a death penalty statute, anyway? When's the last time they ever got around to executing anyone on death row? Maybe the only thing I like about Texas. When they say "shall be put to death" they mean just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Maybe the only thing I like about Texas. When they say "shall be put to death" they mean just that. I looked it up: since CA restored the death penalty in the '70s, they've executed 14 people. Roughly five times as many have died waiting to be executed (natural causes, or suicide). There's about 750 more on death row right now. And they have a court-ordered moratorium on executions since 2006, when they determined that CA's execution process was "cruel and unusual" in part because they administered injections in the old gas chamber. They just extended the moratorium because in building the new lethal injection room and creating new regulations, the Department of Corrections didn't seek enough input on the new drug cocktail from all "interested parties" - apparently, they didn't consult the inmates on death row. California is a REALLY screwed up state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I looked it up: since CA restored the death penalty in the '70s, they've executed 14 people. Roughly five times as many have died waiting to be executed (natural causes, or suicide). There's about 750 more on death row right now. And they have a court-ordered moratorium on executions since 2006, when they determined that CA's execution process was "cruel and unusual" in part because they administered injections in the old gas chamber. They just extended the moratorium because in building the new lethal injection room and creating new regulations, the Department of Corrections didn't seek enough input on the new drug cocktail from all "interested parties" - apparently, they didn't consult the inmates on death row. California is a REALLY screwed up state. Just make them endlessly read "last post wins" and provide accesses to a 3rd story window. That would clear up the backlog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I looked it up: since CA restored the death penalty in the '70s, they've executed 14 people. Roughly five times as many have died waiting to be executed (natural causes, or suicide). There's about 750 more on death row right now. And they have a court-ordered moratorium on executions since 2006, when they determined that CA's execution process was "cruel and unusual" in part because they administered injections in the old gas chamber. They just extended the moratorium because in building the new lethal injection room and creating new regulations, the Department of Corrections didn't seek enough input on the new drug cocktail from all "interested parties" - apparently, they didn't consult the inmates on death row. California is a REALLY screwed up state. in New York there are Grievance Comities for Inmates. They vote on everything regarding the inmates. From what food to serve in chow, amounts of packages they are allowed to receive, what TV channels they want available to them. They get to watch ESPN and Showtime, HBO in some prisons. They get extended hours of TV privileges during fight nights on Showtime (only in prisons where they aren't allowed TVs in their cells, which they voted on). After the Attica Riots and the death of George Jackson in San Quentin, the inmates recieved many more privileges. More rights in the system. Despite taking over a jail, murdering officers, and causing the most horrific prison riot in the history of the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Just make them endlessly read "last post wins" and provide accesses to a 3rd story window. That would clear up the backlog. The Supreme Court has ruled "last post wins" is cruel and unusual punishment, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 The Supreme Court has ruled "last post wins" is cruel and unusual punishment, sorry. I can sneak in "shoutbox" if necessary. Ether way they will be jumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts