udonkey Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I can suspend disbelief alright but why was FOX hyping a 'big twist' that they basically revealed weeks ago when Marwan said something to the effect of "the President is on a tight schedule" to Mr. Pilot Dude. I was talking to someone today about how someone should count how many CTU agents are wasted just a few minutes after leaving the office. Chalk up another one during tonight's episode. 295802[/snapback] The twist appears to be building with next week's "fumble" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hansen Forever Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 After spending my entire Air Force career in the Strategic Air Command, I find "24" ridiculous at best. All the personnel are fratranizing with each other, and you have terminal pyscho's within the organization. The whole organization would never pass minimum background and personality tests, which would normally be required by any intelligence agency. Yeah, the show is semi entertaining, but no way would these emotional basket cases ever be allowed to work in such a stressful environment. And absolutely no fratranizing at all, that is a mandatory requirement in all classified ops. And in response to what Air Force 1 has, no it does not have an escape module built in, but it does have flares and radar jamming, which would be pointless in the scenario shown tonight. The odds of an authorized pilot gaining access to a F-117, with a cut off thumb are more improbable than winning the power ball. All classified aircraft are guarded by numerous security forces, and face recognition (its not like there are 1 million pilots that fly them). Everyone knows everyone else, and you must pass through numerous checkpoints just to gain access to the revetment. Total bull sh--! I recommend NUKING CTU! It would make for a better show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I always wondered if AF1 really had counter measures like they showed in the movie...Airforce One. I expected one of the fighters to "take the bullet" for AF1. 295783[/snapback] Why the hell bother escorting otherwise? Speaking of escorting... Get your minds out of the gutter. Did anyone ever play that old multiplayer internet game 'netrek'? The radar screens at CTU kinda looked kinda like the Romulans attempting a well coordinated take of a core Fed agri Ah, those were the days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I'm not huge on making it hyper accurate, but I am curious. Let's suspend disbelief for a moment (or better yet let's assume the hijacked F-117 was comandeered by its normal pilot who is a mole, might be more realistic), had the scenario played out, could the F-117 shoot down AF1? Again, this is assuming the pilot got the plane in the air and knew AF1's route and location...just curious. 295825[/snapback] I tend to think, no. AF1 should have enough countermeasures to evade a full complement of fighter missiles. And then there's the escorts. But, I am certainly not AF personnel, so cannot speak definitively. But I do watch Discovery Channel a lot, and stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Call me crazy, but I wasn't really surprised by the "big twist" this week. It looks like next week it gets more dire. Does look like the mole conspiracists were wrong. 295768[/snapback] Yeah, that's the big thing that struck me too. They were hyping some huge unprecedented twist you'll never see coming and you'll be totally baffled and perplexed and c***punched and reel stupefied through the night streets, like a wino on 2 bottles of Mad Dog and one and a half of Dot 4 and you're seeing halos around every lightpost because of the Lasik you had done 10 years ago before the technology was ready and you're flashing back to that chick in high school that you really really regret telling to cram all of it straight up her... But I digress. To me, this was a very ordinary and very linear episode of 24. The only twist remotely in evidence was how many terrorist scumbags Jack got to cap in his inimicably very cool fashion, after 'drawing fire' from the media during the week for the unnecessary violence of the show. If only he could have offed a few newspaper reporters 'by accident' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Gilchrist Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I'm not huge on making it hyper accurate, but I am curious. Let's suspend disbelief for a moment (or better yet let's assume the hijacked F-117 was comandeered by its normal pilot who is a mole, might be more realistic), had the scenario played out, could the F-117 shoot down AF1? Again, this is assuming the pilot got the plane in the air and knew AF1's route and location...just curious. 295825[/snapback] The F-117A stealth "fighter" has no air to air capability - not even guns. It is also not invisible to radar if you know it's coming. The Serbs had the fllght plan and shot one down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 The F-117A stealth "fighter" has no air to air capability - not even guns. It is also not invisible to radar if you know it's coming. The Serbs had the fllght plan and shot one down. 295881[/snapback] No reason to let any facts get in the way of a fictional television show. The fact that he was able to steal a Priority A resource during a national emergency (NFW that could EVER happen) was obviously just the beginning. Now we're going to be shown how amazingly stupid our government is because they don't have a backup plan in the event the nuclear "football" is ever compromised. Yeah, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Dear 24, Worst episode ever! First, in episode 13 why does the Stealth fighter have air-to air missles!? It is common everyday knowldege that the stealth fighter does not carry such armaments! They teach that in the fourth grade now! Second, why didn't Air Force One use its counter-measures, such as flak? Everyone who is anyone has at least glanced at the specs for AIr FOrce One knows that it can evade several missles, much less one weak-ass missle from one plane. Third, the CTU that is depcited would never happen in real life! People are fraternizing with eachother, there are moles everywhere, and they are all too good looking!" This show is crap. I have not seen such poor writing since the travesty that was Battlestar Gallactica! You should consult with the departing writers from Star Trek - Frontiers. Now that is writing! Yours Truly, Comic book guy on Simpsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMark Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 A couple of other things: 1. How do the terrorists know that Air Force 1 is flying over California? 2. Why is AF1 flying over an area that is the center of terrorist activity? Go BILLS 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Dear 24, Worst episode ever! 295914[/snapback] can i sign my name to that letter also? Big Twist? I'm still waiting for it. From what started out as one of the best of the 4 seasons of this show, this program did a 180 last night. one or two more episodes like that and i fail to see any reason to watch. just terrible. i agree that Heller is involved as well. unless William Devane has a contract issue and suddenly disappeared from the program all together. I can just see it....episode 24: It is all revealed. William Devane plays himself....as the evil twin of SOD Heller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 LOL! Does anybody else realize that it is a TV show and not real? Why does a stealth fighter have air to air capabilities? Because its on TV. Maybe we should we have Jack Bauer working in an office trying to locate terrorist cells and taking long lunch breaks with Tony. Now that would make some realistic must see TV!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMark Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 i agree that Heller is involved as well. unless William Devane has a contract issue and suddenly disappeared from the program all together. I can just see it....episode 24: It is all revealed. William Devane plays himself....as the evil twin of SOD Heller. 295951[/snapback] One small problem that I have with Heller being involved is that while he and his daughter were held captive, he tried to commit suicide to prevent his "trial" by the terrorists from happening. if there is not trial and execution, then is kind of messes up the terrorists plans. GO BILLS 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 what was the point of introducing a character that plays the son of the President? horrible production...horrible writing. i know it is just TV, but i guess i expect it to be better than some poor 1980's primtime soap opera script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 LOL! Does anybody else realize that it is a TV show and not real? Why does a stealth fighter have air to air capabilities? Because its on TV. Maybe we should we have Jack Bauer working in an office trying to locate terrorist cells and taking long lunch breaks with Tony. Now that would make some realistic must see TV!! 295957[/snapback] One of the reasons it has been so successful is in the past they have minimized the "bull sh-- factor." This season they seem to have run out of ideas and therefore are taking alot of license with reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cat Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 can i sign my name to that letter also? 295951[/snapback] You may want to reconsider signing onto that letter because I think Slothrop was making fun of all you "that was so unrealistic" folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Plot holes aside, I think we should have expected that at least one of the major terrorist plots was going to fully succeed this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 So in previous seasons, what was the story with the VP? Was he a shady character or what? If there is any traitor left on the show it would only make sense if it was the VP, now president. I am confident that the mole thing has been played out otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted April 5, 2005 Author Share Posted April 5, 2005 Maybe we should we have Jack Bauer working in an office trying to locate terrorist cells and taking long lunch breaks with Tony. Now that would make some realistic must see TV!! 295957[/snapback] I just thought of something. We never see anyone stop to eat, order pizza, or run out for a McDonalds run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 So in previous seasons, what was the story with the VP? Was he a shady character or what? If there is any traitor left on the show it would only make sense if it was the VP, now president. I am confident that the mole thing has been played out otherwise. 296037[/snapback] Only once in previous seasons has the VP played any kind of role. He pulled a coup and got a vote of no confidence by the cabinet against President Palmer and took over the government for a short period. He was later allowed to retire as Palmer's lead Secret Service Agent Aaron helped him regain power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I just thought of something. We never see anyone stop to eat, order pizza, or run out for a McDonalds run. 296173[/snapback] Plus, Kiefer never stops for the obligatory "we just killed a bunch of tangos and broke some stuff" smoke - which you know he does as soon as they yell "cut." Some tactical operator he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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