Billsguy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Here is how I see the value if the Bills stay at #8. Offensive line: Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper. (safely assuming the tackles Joeckel and Fisher are gone) Wide receiver: Tavon Austin Cornerback: Dee Milliner Second round QB: best available TE: best available (if QB has been taken early) I don't fall into the QB in round 1 hysteria that has befallen Bills nation. The Bills acquired Kolb to fill the starting role for 2013. I think the Bills believe they can get a quality QB in round 2. If the Bills trade down in the 1st round, then I believe they might draft a QB first. I have always believed that when a team reaches to fill a position need that they overlook better players. I hope they take the best player regardless of position. I believe this makes sense because the Bills have needs in so many positions. BTW, three days to complete the draft is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Once they signed Kolb, I believed they no longer needed to reach for a QB in round 1... as the draft as drawn closer it seems like all you hear is that they are taking a QB in the first.. Why bring in Kolb if you are drafting a QB at 8... you already have a veteran backup in Jackson. Rookies start from day 1 now and you can pretty much tell what the guy has after his first season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainiac21 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 i don't really think, or think that Bills think, that Guards or 175 lb receivers are value at 8 either. If OT or Jordan is there, they are, but otherwise... maybe Mlliner. Some D-lineman will be, but doubt Bills forego needs for a position of relative strength, which is why they are likely desperate to trade down. If not, go with best combo of need/value... QB or CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan3434 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I also believe Tavon Austin doesn't give us anything T.J. Graham can't give us. Second year receiver > rookie, even if it is Tavon Austin. Something I just got done saying in another thread. If they want a receiver and they don't want Patterson, I guess go after Eifert even though it would be hella high for a TE. I also would not like for us to reach for a QB here unless it's Smith which has pretty much been off the board's radar as well as the experts' radar for about a month now for some reason. I say we need to go DE/OLB/MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Value is determined by 20/20 hindsight. And you can only determine that after players hit the pro field. Like Revis in the middle of round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) You take someone that coud help our near league worst 31 ranked rushing Defense. That is our biggest need IMO. Followed shortly by QB. Not going to win many games giving up 30-40 pts a game. Edited April 24, 2013 by Awwufelloff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 #8 best value is a trade down for more picks, we have a lot of holes to fill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Here is how I see the value if the Bills stay at #8. Offensive line: Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper. (safely assuming the tackles Joeckel and Fisher are gone) Wide receiver: Tavon Austin Cornerback: Dee Milliner Second round QB: best available TE: best available (if QB has been taken early) I don't fall into the QB in round 1 hysteria that has befallen Bills nation. The Bills acquired Kolb to fill the starting role for 2013. I think the Bills believe they can get a quality QB in round 2. If the Bills trade down in the 1st round, then I believe they might draft a QB first. I have always believed that when a team reaches to fill a position need that they overlook better players. I hope they take the best player regardless of position. I believe this makes sense because the Bills have needs in so many positions. BTW, three days to complete the draft is ridiculous. If any of the three OT's drops to us, or Jordan, we should jump at it. I am hoping someone takes Smith, Floyd and Lotuleli before us so that Jordan lasts to the 8th pick. Otherwise, if things go pretty much as predicted, one of the guards or maybe Ansah. I think Austin would be a mistake, small fast receivers are just not that hard to find. A big guy with speed, now thats special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 If any of the three OT's drops to us, or Jordan, we should jump at it. I am hoping someone takes Smith, Floyd and Lotuleli before us so that Jordan lasts to the 8th pick. Otherwise, if things go pretty much as predicted, one of the guards or maybe Ansah. I think Austin would be a mistake, small fast receivers are just not that hard to find. A big guy with speed, now thats special. I agree that Austin would be a reach myself after re-consideration. I have always believed the big men are the most important. I saw Kaepernick,Dalton and Wilson get drafted in round 2 so I think the Bills will pass on a QB in round 1. They clearly have a need for a WR and TE, but they may wait until round 3 or later. I could see the Bills trading down with San Fran for 3 or 4 premium picks. The Bills give up number 8 for #31, a couple of #2's or a 1st next year and a 4th. Something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Once they signed Kolb, I believed they no longer needed to reach for a QB in round 1... as the draft as drawn closer it seems like all you hear is that they are taking a QB in the first.. Why bring in Kolb if you are drafting a QB at 8... you already have a veteran backup in Jackson. Rookies start from day 1 now and you can pretty much tell what the guy has after his first season... in signing kolb, they have put themselves in a position where they don't HAVE to take a qb, but if they truly feel that one of these guys has everything they are looking for in a franchise qb, i certainly hope they grab him. and as far as the backup qb thing goes, there is nothing wrong with having a couple vets slug it out to see who is better, wouldn't we have loved to see them bring in a legitimate player to compete with thigpen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Austin seems to be very similar to Graham, a smallish, speedy guy. What the Bills don't have is that big Michael Irvin type, which is precisely Buddy's dream receiver. I don't know if there's one in the draft with a "can't miss" tag on him, but if there is, that's the guy Buddy's got his eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Chance Warmack gets it done in the run game + long time. Tavon Austin gets bonus points and grief from fans but will create mismatches aplenty and create fear in Def coordinators. and maybe most important score points first season. neither are favorites for me as i love Defense. But make good good sense. good sense More picks please Buddy Austin seems to be very similar to Graham, a smallish, speedy guy. What the Bills don't have is that big Michael Irvin type, which is precisely Buddy's dream receiver. I don't know if there's one in the draft with a "can't miss" tag on him, but if there is, that's the guy Buddy's got his eye on. right you are. But they are in the 3rd round too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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