EZC-Boston Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Our defense failed us every time we needed them to make a stand this year...They live off the stats and highlights that occur when nothing is on the line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Every game that they failed (Jets, Steelers, Patriots) was a direct result of an inept offense with poor quarterback play. Go look at the time of posession for each of those games. It's tough to expect a defense to stop a crucial drive when they have been out there the entire game because the offense didn't move the ball or kept turning it over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 The Defense also kept us in a lot of games when our offense crapped the bed. The Defense is NOT the problem. Decision making on offense is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Other than in the JAX game which was a fluke, BF is dead on about this one. It's one argument when, like in 2003, we are #2 in yardage but poor in sacks, turnovers etc. but this season we were #2 in yards, #1 in takeaways, #3 in sacks, etc. All teams have the opportunity to pad stats against certain opponents so that is a non factor when used in comparison. I was dissapointed in the D in this last game but I could also see that they were tired from all the TOP Pitt had earlier on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Other than in the JAX game which was a fluke, BF is dead on about this one. It's one argument when, like in 2003, we are #2 in yardage but poor in sacks, turnovers etc. but this season we were #2 in yards, #1 in takeaways, #3 in sacks, etc. All teams have the opportunity to pad stats against certain opponents so that is a non factor when used in comparison. I was dissapointed in the D in this last game but I could also see that they were tired from all the TOP Pitt had earlier on... 192465[/snapback] The Bills sustained 3 drives the entire game. The first touchdown drive, the drive before the half, and the drive that Lindell missed the field goal. Almost every drive other than that we were 3 and out. When you can't rest it's tough to perform in the 4th quarter when you are drained physically and mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I was dissapointed in the D in this last game but I could also see that they were tired from all the TOP Pitt had earlier on... 192465[/snapback] Not really. They finished with 11 more minutes of T.O.P. Which means to that point in the game it was pretty darn even. But carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 The Bills sustained 3 drives the entire game. The first touchdown drive, the drive before the half, and the drive that Lindell missed the field goal. Almost every drive other than that we were 3 and out. When you can't rest it's tough to perform in the 4th quarter when you are drained physically and mentally. 192472[/snapback] That's what I was saying wasn't I ? Or were you just validating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Not really. They finished with 11 more minutes of T.O.P. Which means to that point in the game it was pretty darn even. But carry on. 192481[/snapback] Ok well they ran more plays and were effective enough running the ball to get some wear on us , and our D had to leave the field and go back out there after Drew's pick and Nate's fumble as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Ok well they ran more plays and were effective enough running the ball to get some wear on us , and our D had to leave the field and go back out there after Drew's pick and Nate's fumble as well. 192507[/snapback] Nothing more than excuses when you're a top 5 defense playing against 3rd stringers with your season on the line. UNACCEPTABLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 That's what I was saying wasn't I ? Or were you just validating 192498[/snapback] But the defense has not been on the field an undue amount when the Steelers got the ball with 11:15 left in the fourth quarter. From then on, the Steelers time of possession v. Buffalo was about 10 minutes to 1, or a nine minute differential. Since the game differential was about 10 minutes total, it means that at the 11:15 mark, Pittsburgh had possessed the ball for about 25 minutes on offense, while the Bills had 24 minutes. Hardly an argument that the Bills defense collapsed at the 11:15 mark due to fatigue, or am I missing something...CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Nothing more than excuses when you're a top 5 defense playing against 3rd stringers with your season on the line. UNACCEPTABLE. 192513[/snapback] What do you suggest? Scrap the entire defense next season and start over? Kick out the D-Coordinator who the players all love? That'll go over smoothly I'm sure The team had a brain fart at the WORST possible time. It friggin sucks, but it happens. The defense pulled its weight a lot more then our offense did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 What do you suggest? Scrap the entire defense next season and start over? Kick out the D-Coordinator who the players all love? That'll go over smoothly I'm sure 192520[/snapback] Yeah, that's the inference I was making. Teams win and teams lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 What do you suggest? Scrap the entire defense next season and start over? Kick out the D-Coordinator who the players all love? That'll go over smoothly I'm sure The team had a brain fart at the WORST possible time. It friggin sucks, but it happens. The defense pulled its weight a lot more then our offense did. 192520[/snapback] No, his point was that the defense did not play that well either, and contributed to the team's defeat. This is in contrast to those who feel the D played great, and Bledsoe was to blame for everything...CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yeah, that's the inference I was making. Teams win and teams lose. 192524[/snapback] For the most part that is true, but in the games that I mentioned I guarantee y ou find a big gap in TOP. The offense couldn't stay on the field in any of those games that I mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 But the defense has not been on the field an undue amount when the Steelers got the ball with 11:15 left in the fourth quarter. From then on, the Steelers time of possession v. Buffalo was about 10 minutes to 1, or a nine minute differential. Since the game differential was about 10 minutes total, it means that at the 11:15 mark, Pittsburgh had possessed the ball for about 25 minutes on offense, while the Bills had 24 minutes. Hardly an argument that the Bills defense collapsed at the 11:15 mark due to fatigue, or am I missing something...CD 192515[/snapback] Well this I know... From my seat 19 rows up there were no less than 7 of our defenders with their hands on their hips during each huddle from the late 3rd quarter on. Maybe it was that the starting Pitt O-line just mauls people , I don't know. I suppose I shouldn't even have tried to use statistics when I and my friends could physically see the fatigue from my seat aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yeah, that's the inference I was making. Teams win and teams lose. 192524[/snapback] And our team lost. Some people need to get over it. It was a complete team screw-up. But I was expecting more from my fellow Bills fans, I really was. We act like this is the first time we've ever been knocked down. This team took a huge step forward this season, how many times could you honestly say that in the last 6 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respk Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Ahhh....The defensive apologists surface. Until they replace Fletcher, possibly Clements and find a pass rushing end, this defense will be good but never good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Our defense failed us every time we needed them to make a stand this year...They live off the stats and highlights that occur when nothing is on the line... 192407[/snapback] :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: Our defense had little to do with the loss to the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubhockey Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 And people say I'm crazy. Try to look past the Steelers game which was not our best defensive performance, but they kept us in the game. We didn't have Vincent or Milloy for most of the season. Barring injuries, our defense will be even tougher next year. We've been trying to fix our offense for years and nothing. Our defense is as good as it gets in the league. The problem is on offense, and thank God MM is an offensive coach. Hopefully they can fix the problem this offseason. They need a new QB to make that next step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Every game that they failed (Jets, Steelers, Patriots) was a direct result of an inept offense with poor quarterback play. Go look at the time of posession for each of those games. It's tough to expect a defense to stop a crucial drive when they have been out there the entire game because the offense didn't move the ball or kept turning it over. 192455[/snapback] SEVEN drives that were 3 and out on Sunday. That just doesn't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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