Buffalo A Great City - For Real !!

[ajzepp]

I don't understand why Buffalo is constantly thrown under the bus for it's decline, yet nobody ever mentions Detroit. I've seen a few mini-documentaries lately on Detroit and there's no way in HELL Id ever consider moving there.

 

Also, I'm with those of you who mention the heat of places like ATL. My ideal climate is the mid-Atlantic region....a nice balanced four seasons. I like Atlanta summers at NIGHT, but I'd take the cold of B-lo over the intense heat of ATL any day.

[mousetrap08]

Never lived in Buffalo but been there a few times. I think it is a nice city with good hard working down to earth people. I don't get why the city is bashed so much. I know Buffalo has it's problems but can you name any city, town or village that doesn't.

[nucci]

I don't understand why Buffalo is constantly thrown under the bus for it's decline, yet nobody ever mentions Detroit. I've seen a few mini-documentaries lately on Detroit and there's no way in HELL Id ever consider moving there.

 

Also, I'm with those of you who mention the heat of places like ATL. My ideal climate is the mid-Atlantic region....a nice balanced four seasons. I like Atlanta summers at NIGHT, but I'd take the cold of B-lo over the intense heat of ATL any day.

Which is it? No one mentions it or you've seen documentaries? I think we Buffalonians are just too sensitive to any criticisms of the city. I know my brother still gets upset when some mention Buffalo winters. Every city has good and bad areas....nice suburbs.....things to do in winter and summer......

[T master]

watching that video makes me even more happy my company relocated me to Florida

 

Then start rooting for the fins & make the relocation complete If you hate it that bad !!

[T master]

You act like other cities don't have bad neighborhoods. WTF is up with that? Vegas is one of the most hyped places in the world, I lived there for 2 years. Ever heard of the Letter Streets there? Nobody outside of Vegas has. I challenge you to go to D Street anytime.

Like NYC doesn't have bad neighborhoods. Last time I was there I was walking a few blocks away from Times Square and ran into a naked homeless guy in a store entrance that was masterbating to women walking by. The few girls I saw walked up to a NYC cop and he refused to go near the naked filthy guy playing with his dick in public.

I lived in Sullivan county NY for 2 years and when I was there I saw filthy run down homes that Hicidic Jews migrate to for the summer only to trash them and never go back again. So they just sit there for years until someone burns them down for insurance money. Oh and because all the Hicidics come from NYC, the property taxes are just as rediculous as WNYs.

You act like other NFL cities like NYC, SF, Miami, Wash, Oak, Dallas, Houston, Arz don't have bad areas.

Are you oblivious to crime in the US? As many here know, I'm a Corrections Officer and I can tell you that life is not all whipped cream and cherries. Buffalo is no different than any other "real" city. Do you know about the gangs in the southern states? Or the Mexican border towns that have beheadings every few months because of drug muling across the borders.

 

Taxes suck, sure. But you can also find a 2,000 square ft home for under 100k if you really want. Hell, when I lived in Vegas I went house hunting. 300k+ for a 2,000 square ft home with a driveway for a front lawn and a 50x10 section of gravel for the backyard. 300k in Buffalo can pretty much buy you a 2,500-3,000 square ft home in Amherst, Williamsville, Clarance, Lancaster, OP... And with acres of land, not 100 ft of it.

 

C'mon man, lets get real, you don't like Buffalo. We get it. You moved away, fine. But not every body hates it here. Not everybody gives up on a job here and moves out first chance they get. Not everybody likes to do things like you can do in Buffalo. Can you hang out in NYC, Vegas, SF, San Jose, SD and have an outside BBQ with a bunch of people in your 10x50 gravel yard? How bout your lobby of your apartment building like in NYC. Can you even have an outside fire put in California with all the flash fires that happen there?

 

These aren't the only things to do, but how bout other things that you can't do in other places. Or other things that you can't do here. In the end, it's a family place that you can raise your kids without having to worry about them getting mugged in a subway, or sneaking into casinos, or being on the streets with hard core gamgs like Latin Kings, Bloods, Cripps, MS13.

 

So you didn't like it here. That's fine. There's no reason to think any other cities are better in any way. Maybe you wanted to work as a marine biologist, and that would be tough here. I get it. But don't say there aren't any jobs. There aren't any if you don't look or are just plain lazy. Ever heard of Ingram Micro, Geico, Wegmans? They are all Fortune 500 companies. There's tons of customer service jobs if that's your thing too. I've worked in bars, restaurants, collection agencies, insurance companies, IT distributing companies, and now for the State. Can't say I ever had a hard time finding a job. Sure, I never made over 100k a year but you could have if you wanted to at any one of the places I did (except the restaurants). Have a friend that never went to college that makes over $120k a year at Ingram Micro as a marketing manager. Same path I would have been in if I had stayed there. Instead I opted to fight crime for a living. Yeah, I'm a superhero. But at the same time that I don't make over 100k, I don't need to because my 1,800square ft home was only 79k.

 

You think LA will be the safest place on earth for an NFL team? How bout Toronto? C'mon man. Your just as rediculous talking bad about Buffalo as thinking that LA is all palm trees and chicks in bikinis.

 

Hope you all enjoyed. As you can tell, I love Buffalo. Moved away to have the big city experience and moved back. I love it here and I'm never leaving. If you don't, that's fine with me. It gets another @$$hole out of town that constantly complains about rediculous things that happen everywhere else. Just say it, you wanted to live somewhere warmer that doesn't get snow and that's fine. But not all of us are wimps for getting out because of a few snowflakes.

 

Have a good day sir.

 

Well put !! I like this guy !!!

[BuffaloBill]

 

You act like other cities don't have bad neighborhoods. WTF is up with that? Vegas is one of the most hyped places in the world, I lived there for 2 years. Ever heard of the Letter Streets there? Nobody outside of Vegas has. I challenge you to go to D Street anytime.

Like NYC doesn't have bad neighborhoods. Last time I was there I was walking a few blocks away from Times Square and ran into a naked homeless guy in a store entrance that was masterbating to women walking by. The few girls I saw walked up to a NYC cop and he refused to go near the naked filthy guy playing with his dick in public.

I lived in Sullivan county NY for 2 years and when I was there I saw filthy run down homes that Hicidic Jews migrate to for the summer only to trash them and never go back again. So they just sit there for years until someone burns them down for insurance money. Oh and because all the Hicidics come from NYC, the property taxes are just as rediculous as WNYs.

You act like other NFL cities like NYC, SF, Miami, Wash, Oak, Dallas, Houston, Arz don't have bad areas.

Are you oblivious to crime in the US? As many here know, I'm a Corrections Officer and I can tell you that life is not all whipped cream and cherries. Buffalo is no different than any other "real" city. Do you know about the gangs in the southern states? Or the Mexican border towns that have beheadings every few months because of drug muling across the borders.

 

Taxes suck, sure. But you can also find a 2,000 square ft home for under 100k if you really want. Hell, when I lived in Vegas I went house hunting. 300k+ for a 2,000 square ft home with a driveway for a front lawn and a 50x10 section of gravel for the backyard. 300k in Buffalo can pretty much buy you a 2,500-3,000 square ft home in Amherst, Williamsville, Clarance, Lancaster, OP... And with acres of land, not 100 ft of it.

 

C'mon man, lets get real, you don't like Buffalo. We get it. You moved away, fine. But not every body hates it here. Not everybody gives up on a job here and moves out first chance they get. Not everybody likes to do things like you can do in Buffalo. Can you hang out in NYC, Vegas, SF, San Jose, SD and have an outside BBQ with a bunch of people in your 10x50 gravel yard? How bout your lobby of your apartment building like in NYC. Can you even have an outside fire put in California with all the flash fires that happen there?

 

These aren't the only things to do, but how bout other things that you can't do in other places. Or other things that you can't do here. In the end, it's a family place that you can raise your kids without having to worry about them getting mugged in a subway, or sneaking into casinos, or being on the streets with hard core gamgs like Latin Kings, Bloods, Cripps, MS13.

 

So you didn't like it here. That's fine. There's no reason to think any other cities are better in any way. Maybe you wanted to work as a marine biologist, and that would be tough here. I get it. But don't say there aren't any jobs. There aren't any if you don't look or are just plain lazy. Ever heard of Ingram Micro, Geico, Wegmans? They are all Fortune 500 companies. There's tons of customer service jobs if that's your thing too. I've worked in bars, restaurants, collection agencies, insurance companies, IT distributing companies, and now for the State. Can't say I ever had a hard time finding a job. Sure, I never made over 100k a year but you could have if you wanted to at any one of the places I did (except the restaurants). Have a friend that never went to college that makes over $120k a year at Ingram Micro as a marketing manager. Same path I would have been in if I had stayed there. Instead I opted to fight crime for a living. Yeah, I'm a superhero. But at the same time that I don't make over 100k, I don't need to because my 1,800square ft home was only 79k.

 

You think LA will be the safest place on earth for an NFL team? How bout Toronto? C'mon man. Your just as rediculous talking bad about Buffalo as thinking that LA is all palm trees and chicks in bikinis.

 

Hope you all enjoyed. As you can tell, I love Buffalo. Moved away to have the big city experience and moved back. I love it here and I'm never leaving. If you don't, that's fine with me. It gets another @$$hole out of town that constantly complains about rediculous things that happen everywhere else. Just say it, you wanted to live somewhere warmer that doesn't get snow and that's fine. But not all of us are wimps for getting out because of a few snowflakes.

 

Have a good day sir.

 

Well said ... Enjoy your passion....

[5 Wide]

When people ask where you are from, and then have a sarcastic response like "oh i'm sorry to hear that" I just laugh. It's all what you are looking for in life. If you want clubs and beaches, you're not living in Buffalo. Jobs? I've never had a problem finding a job in the area, and neither has my wife. The summers are great, full of festivals, concerts, I've got a boat and love the world class bass and walleye fishing on Lake Erie and the world class Salmon and Trout fishing on Lake Ontario. The autumns are beautiful and I love the 50 degree temperatures. In the winter, I ski and snowmobile. I will say March is a pretty terrible month, but that's what vacations are for. There are some great opportunities if you're looking to be a homeowner too. If this area is not what you are looking for, I can live with that. But to say there is nothing to do, you're either a sheep, or just don't apply yourself.

[mrags]

Never lived in Buffalo but been there a few times. I think it is a nice city with good hard working down to earth people. I don't get why the city is bashed so much. I know Buffalo has it's problems but can you name any city, town or village that doesn't.

And to me that's the worst part about it. The people that leave bash the city and many times the people that leave are people that can't stand a few snowflakes. So when they bash the area to other people that have never even been here, all they can say is "there's no jobs" or "all it ever does is snow". Get real. Of course your saying those things because you couldn't handle either of those things and that's why your gone. And of course because the people that hear this have never even been within 100 miles or more to the area they automatically think this is fact.

 

True story, I had a SGT at Sullivan that would always talk bad about Buffalo, never stepped foot anywhere past Syracuse. Would always say Buffalo is farm town, we all have cows, and dairies, and there's no other work because so many guys from Buffalo come through Sullivan it must be true. I could never stand it for the fact that he's never been there. If he had been he would see that we actually have a downtown, with somewhat tall buildings there, with professional sports teams, and that I don't live within 45 minutes to the nearest cow or dairy farm. Meanwhile the town of Montecello has a SuperWalmart, about 4 other diners, a Pizza Hut, McDonalds, and a 4 story building for their tallest building.

 

Lets be real here, Buffalo is no Chicago, NYC, Vegas, SF, Atl, etc... But for some country bumpkin fat bastard that has never lived in a county with over 77,000 people or a real city in his life to talk bad about Buffalo is what really bothers me. I can understand why people leave, and why they don't like it. It's not any one of those big cities I named, but it's far from most of the rest of the US towns, like Montecello, etc...

[bbb]

When people ask where you are from, and then have a sarcastic response like "oh i'm sorry to hear that" I just laugh. It's all what you are looking for in life. If you want clubs and beaches, you're not living in Buffalo. Jobs? I've never had a problem finding a job in the area, and neither has my wife. The summers are great, full of festivals, concerts, I've got a boat and love the world class bass and walleye fishing on Lake Erie and the world class Salmon and Trout fishing on Lake Ontario. The autumns are beautiful and I love the 50 degree temperatures. In the winter, I ski and snowmobile. I will say March is a pretty terrible month, but that's what vacations are for. There are some great opportunities if you're looking to be a homeowner too. If this area is not what you are looking for, I can live with that. But to say there is nothing to do, you're either a sheep, or just don't apply yourself.

 

This is EXACTLY how I feel........March is pretty bad, but you do have some of those early spring days where 60 degrees feels like mid-summer and time to roll down the windows and crank up the Beach Boys!............Hey, it helped us sign Mario this March. (OK - so it's not perfect)

[mrags]

 

 

This is EXACTLY how I feel........March is pretty bad, but you do have some of those early spring days where 60 degrees feels like mid-summer and time to roll down the windows and crank up the Beach Boys!............Hey, it helped us sign Mario this March. (OK - so it's not perfect)

Well played

[Maguire's Beer]

As many others have said, Buffalo does have its problems - just like any other city. It's also got its strong points, not the least of which is its absurdly cheap real estate prices coupled with relatively high wages. People complain about the taxes, but the fact that you can buy a 3-4 bedroom house in a safe neighborhood with good schools for under $150K is worth a helluva lot. That kind of value is unheard of anywhere within 75 miles of my DC home.

 

So you weigh the good against the bad, you weigh the factors according to your own personal tastes and preferences, and you make your own decision about where you want to live. I live in DC because I love my job, and this is where I have to be to do it. But if that weren't the case, and I was free to move to a town I really liked, I would definitely consider Buffalo, along with Seattle and maybe Chicago. That's just my taste - I travel a lot for work, and after spending time in just about every major American city, thos three are place I'd like to live. I wouldn't consider Atlanta or anywhere in Florida (except for maybe the Keys, if I could find a job there)- but I get that some people love those places. They're just not my cup of tea.

 

I guess what I'm saying is that there's no one city that's right for everyone. There are things that are objectively better and worse when comparing cities, sure - but the manner in which each of us weighs those factors is pretty subjective. From an objective perspective, Buffalo has some good parts and some bad parts. But from my subjective perspective, it's a great town. And more importantly, it's Home - in a way that DC never will be.

[bbb]

As many others have said, Buffalo does have its problems - just like any other city. It's also got its strong points, not the least of which is its absurdly cheap real estate prices coupled with relatively high wages. People complain about the taxes, but the fact that you can buy a 3-4 bedroom house in a safe neighborhood with good schools for under $150K is worth a helluva lot. That kind of value is unheard of anywhere within 75 miles of my DC home.

 

This is what I've said to my friends who brag about their taxes after moving from Buffalo. Aren't they paying way more if you add house + taxes anyway?