frostbitmic Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Time to increase my cache of patriot missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) MAVs - how to go about Winning The Future! FORWARD! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL! Edited February 20, 2013 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Come In Peace Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 MAVs - how to go about Winning The Future! FORWARD! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL! Skynet is about 3 months away I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Let's give this Texas cop a drone to play with: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57572126/texas-police-officer-terminated-after-shooting-at-suspect-41-times/ Tuter had tried to pull over Michael Vincent Allen on August 31 last year, but Allen refused to stop leading to a 30-minute car chase. Tuter shot at Allen 41 times during the chase. Three shots hit Allen and he died at the scene. Tuter said he feared for his life during the chase but investigators determined it was Tuter who slammed into Allen's pickup. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57569565/u.s-a-step-closer-to-wide-domestic-use-of-drones/ . . . the sheriff's department in Montgomery County, Texas, has a 50-pound ShadowHawk helicopter drone intended to supplement its SWAT team. The sheriff's department hasn't armed its drone, although the ShadowHawk can be equipped with a 40 mm grenade launcher and a 12-guage shotgun. September 2011 photo provided by Vanguard Defense Industries shows ShadowHawk drone with Montgomery County, Texas, SWAT team members. / AP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Come In Peace Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 This will only end badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) http://www.cnn.com/2...-cia/index.html Attorney General Eric Holder is not entirely ruling out a scenario under which a drone strike would be ordered against Americans on U.S. soil, but says it has never been done previously and he could only see it being considered in an extraordinary circumstance. http://www.theatlant...-us-soil/62800/ So the drones are coming for you. Or rather, the drones could come for you if the Obama administration deems it necessary. Update: Video of attorney general of the US going to great lengths to try to avoid answering Congressional question about constitutionality of drone strikes against US citizens on US soil: http://www.cbsnews.c...h/?id=50142293n Sen. Rand Paul will discuss this issue on CNN at 7 pm ET tonight (3/6). Edited March 6, 2013 by ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 http://www.cnn.com/2...-cia/index.html http://www.theatlant...-us-soil/62800/ Update: Video of attorney general of the US going to great lengths to try to avoid answering Congressional question about constitutionality of drone strikes against US citizens on US soil: http://www.cbsnews.c...h/?id=50142293n Sen. Rand Paul will discuss this issue on CNN at 7 pm ET tonight (3/6). Thank GOD we got rid of the crazy AGs like John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 http://www.cnn.com/2...-cia/index.html http://www.theatlant...-us-soil/62800/ Update: Video of attorney general of the US going to great lengths to try to avoid answering Congressional question about constitutionality of drone strikes against US citizens on US soil: http://www.cbsnews.c...h/?id=50142293n Sen. Rand Paul will discuss this issue on CNN at 7 pm ET tonight (3/6). Since you're the expert on all topics you deem to start, what's the difference between a drone's bullet hitting a US citizen on US soil vs a SWAT team sniper's bullet hitting a US citizen on US soil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Come In Peace Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Since you're the expert on all topics you deem to start, what's the difference between a drone's bullet hitting a US citizen on US soil vs a SWAT team sniper's bullet hitting a US citizen on US soil? Due process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Due process. Tell me about due process in a hostage situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Since you're the expert on all topics you deem to start, what's the difference between a drone's bullet hitting a US citizen on US soil vs a SWAT team sniper's bullet hitting a US citizen on US soil? Angle of impact, nothing more. But If you choose to kill a US citizen on US soil rather than arrest him (when the suspect poses no imminent danger to anyone), there's a rather large problem regardless of where the bullet comes from. As for me supposedly claiming to be "the expert on all topics" I start, if that's true, it should be pretty easy to find one where I've asked somebody to believe me because of my education, experience or expertise. I can't recall ever doing that (as opposed to providing links to news stories or articles written by others, supplemented by my own thoughts unrelated to my education, experience or expertise), but I suppose it's possible. Good luck finding one. Have I mentioned that I have three brothers named Darryl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Angle of impact, nothing more. But If you choose to kill a US citizen on US soil rather than arrest him (when the suspect poses no imminent So you agree then, there could be legal uses of drone strikes against US citizens on US soil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Angle of impact, nothing more. But If you choose to kill a US citizen on US soil rather than arrest him (when the suspect poses no imminent danger to anyone), there's a rather large problem regardless of where the bullet comes from. As for me supposedly claiming to be "the expert on all topics" I start, if that's true, it should be pretty easy to find one where I've asked somebody to believe me because of my education, experience or expertise. I can't recall ever doing that (as opposed to providing links to news stories or articles written by others, supplemented by my own thoughts unrelated to my education, experience or expertise), but I suppose it's possible. Good luck finding one. Have I mentioned that I have three brothers named Darryl? You didn't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 You didn't need to. That's funny, but the fact of the matter is, I have frequently posted that I have three brothers named Darryl. Kind of cuts against GG's argument that I claim to be an "expert" on every topic that I choose to start a thread about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 So you agree then, there could be legal uses of drone strikes against US citizens on US soil. Yes, as long as the drone is under police rather than military control. Like any other type of weapon or surveillance equipment, it could be wrongfully used. But if used by the police within Constitutional limits, I have no problem with it. The potential problem is that like some other forms of new technology, it allows the police to easily break constitutional limits on their actions if they yield to the temptation to do that. If some scumbag is holding a member of my family hostage and threatening to kill him/her, and the police can take the scumbag out with a drone so that that they don't endanger their own lives, I'm all for it. Does that surprise you? BTW, I'm still waiting for your answer here: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/156135-taxpayers-contribute-millions-of-dollars-to-democrats-convention/page__st__20?do=findComment&comment=2742962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 BTW, I'm still waiting for your answer here: http://forums.twobil...20#entry2742962 I rarely indulge trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 I rarely indulge trolls. coward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 So it looks like Rand Paul and friends are out for a good old fashioned fillibuster to block the Brennan pick by arguing about Obama's love of killing people with drones. I believe he's headed into hour #8. Kind of fun to watch. And you know the He Who Needs Reservoir Tip is probably very upset about this. Maybe he'll throw another temper tantrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Yes, as long as the drone is under police rather than military control. Like any other type of weapon or surveillance equipment, it could be wrongfully used. But if used by the police within Constitutional limits, I have no problem with it. The potential problem is that like some other forms of new technology, it allows the police to easily break constitutional limits on their actions if they yield to the temptation to do that. If some scumbag is holding a member of my family hostage and threatening to kill him/her, and the police can take the scumbag out with a drone so that that they don't endanger their own lives, I'm all for it. You're an idiot. Go take a nap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 You're an idiot. Go take a nap. Oh yeah? Calling me an idiot is an affront to all of the true idiots in this world, like my middle brother Darryl. Take that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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