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Actually, one vote is a loss, since it's a moral victory for the other side...somehow...that leads to a recount...or multiple recounts, until the right judge gets the result they want.

The one vote that matters is the 1 extra Republican you guys have in the supreme court.

 

Can't wait to flip that over to a Progressive.

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The one vote that matters is the 1 extra Republican you guys have in the supreme court.

 

Can't wait to flip that over to a Progressive.

 

 

You have just shown your lack of respect for the constitution. I'm getting my popcorn for this one.

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The one vote that matters is the 1 extra Republican you guys have in the supreme court.

 

Can't wait to flip that over to a Progressive.

Dear !@#$ing lord.

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The one vote that matters is the 1 extra Republican you guys have in the supreme court.

 

Can't wait to flip that over to a Progressive.

 

That stupid antiquated document that should be irrelevant that always stands in the way of progress...well lucky for the country that progressives can ignore what they want based on how the interpret what modern America should be, since they know best.

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That stupid antiquated document that should be irrelevant that always stands in the way of progress...well lucky for the country that progressives can ignore what they want based on how the interpret what modern America should be, since they know best.

 

That's called "the intent of the Founding Fathers". :wacko:

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The one vote that matters is the 1 extra Republican you guys have in the supreme court.

 

Can't wait to flip that over to a Progressive.

How come you guys hi jacked that word? Your ideology is anything but progressive. Progressive to me suggests improvement. New idea's and so on. Socialism and a all powerful centralized government that views its citizens as subjects is certainly nothing new. From this moment on please use Regressive instead. The Constitutional republic is still the freshest idea.

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How come you guys hi jacked that word. Your ideology is anything but progressive. Progressive to me suggests improvement. New idea's and so on. Socialism and a all powerful centralized government that views its citizens as subjects is certainly nothing new. From this moment on please use Regressive instead. The Constitutional republic is still the freshest idea.

 

 

Since "liberal" became a swear word they had to come up with something else that they could hide their socialism behind. All they've done is ruin a couple of good words in the English language!

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Since I don't watch any of the tv news networks anymore, has this story been reported? I doubt it but it may have been on Fox. Now I would watch tv news if Michelle Fields was on it. Easy on the eyes and she has a smart brain!

 

http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/26/johnson-every-member-of-wisc-legislature-received-death-threats-video/

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Progressive to me suggests improvement. New idea's and so on.

That's what it means to them, too. Improving the lives of the clueless by coming up with new ideas on how to take money from the productive and giving it to the clueless so everything is distributed based on their idea of fairness.

 

If we're lucky, the progressive movement will be destroyed in Wisconsin next month, and ultimately in DC in November, because their idea of fairness is completely FUBAR'ing our economic recovery.

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That's what it means to them, too. Improving the lives of the clueless by coming up with new ideas on how to take money from the productive and giving it to the clueless so everything is distributed based on their idea of fairness.

 

If we're lucky, the progressive movement will be destroyed in Wisconsin next month, and ultimately in DC in November, because their idea of fairness is completely FUBAR'ing our economic recovery.

 

 

ummm the capitalist is the welfare queen here, not labor. you see labor actually produces things and works. ya know 9-5.

 

checking your blackberry in the bahamas is not work... :censored:

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I wonder how MDR feels about pollution? "Workers work 9-5? Some people aren't worth the effort to peel the layers of troll back to prove them a complete phony. Sometimes it's just instinctive and you have to let it go. You guys feeding him, expect a big bill from the local feed store.

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I wonder how MDR feels about pollution? "Workers work 9-5? Some people aren't worth the effort to peel the layers of troll back to prove them a complete phony. Sometimes it's just instinctive and you have to let it go. You guys feeding him, expect a big bill from the local feed store.

 

 

so you enjoy stealing from others? you like the free ride? :sick: :sick:

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Serious question--not trying to be political. What do people think of Walker exempting firefighter, EMT and police unions from his law (unions that either supported him or whose members typically vote Republican)? Or his attempts to require voter ID without any history of electoral fraud in his state and then trying to close down DMVs in urban areas while extending voting hours in suburban DMVs? Apparently that was only stopped from happening when a Democratic legislator noticed it and publicized it. Anyone else listen to all of the "faux Koch" audiotape and come away absolutely convinced that govt was indeed for sale and feel like they needed to take a shower with how obsequious Walker was being to someone who wasn't even a resident of his state?

 

I actually agree with some of what Walker is trying to do--public pensions are no longer market standard and need to go down, for ex., and state workers need to pay in more for what they get in terms of benefits--but this guy is just such a personally flawed standard bearer for any kind of message of change that even if I were inclined to support his positions I'd hesitate over supporting such a scuzzball, but that may just be me. (This is all not even mentioning his being bounced from school (rumors of cheating) or banned from Marquette Univ. politics for dirty tricks.)

 

BTW, dirtballs exist on the left, too, and I wouldn't support them either. On Memorial Day Richard Blumenthal's "stolen valor" claims of serving in Vietnam come to mind, for ex.....

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Serious question--not trying to be political. What do people think of Walker exempting firefighter, EMT and police unions from his law (unions that either supported him or whose members typically vote Republican)? Or his attempts to require voter ID without any history of electoral fraud in his state and then trying to close down DMVs in urban areas while extending voting hours in suburban DMVs? Apparently that was only stopped from happening when a Democratic legislator noticed it and publicized it. Anyone else listen to all of the "faux Koch" audiotape and come away absolutely convinced that govt was indeed for sale and feel like they needed to take a shower with how obsequious Walker was being to someone who wasn't even a resident of his state?

 

I actually agree with some of what Walker is trying to do--public pensions are no longer market standard and need to go down,
for ex., and state workers need to pay in more for what they get in terms of benefits--but this guy is just such a personally flawed standard bearer for any kind of message of change that even if I were inclined to support his positions I'd hesitate over supporting such a scuzzball, but that may just be me. (This is all not even mentioning his being bounced from school (rumors of cheating) or banned from Marquette Univ. politics for dirty tricks.)

 

BTW, dirtballs exist on the left, too, and I wouldn't support them either. On Memorial Day Richard Blumenthal's "stolen valor" claims of serving in Vietnam come to mind, for ex.....

 

 

but hes not even offering a real negotiation. he wants to cut and kill union rights. huge difference... :wallbash:

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Serious question--not trying to be political. What do people think of Walker exempting firefighter, EMT and police unions from his law (unions that either supported him or whose members typically vote Republican)? Or his attempts to require voter ID without any history of electoral fraud in his state and then trying to close down DMVs in urban areas while extending voting hours in suburban DMVs? Apparently that was only stopped from happening when a Democratic legislator noticed it and publicized it. Anyone else listen to all of the "faux Koch" audiotape and come away absolutely convinced that govt was indeed for sale and feel like they needed to take a shower with how obsequious Walker was being to someone who wasn't even a resident of his state?

 

I actually agree with some of what Walker is trying to do--public pensions are no longer market standard and need to go down, for ex., and state workers need to pay in more for what they get in terms of benefits--but this guy is just such a personally flawed standard bearer for any kind of message of change that even if I were inclined to support his positions I'd hesitate over supporting such a scuzzball, but that may just be me. (This is all not even mentioning his being bounced from school (rumors of cheating) or banned from Marquette Univ. politics for dirty tricks.)

 

BTW, dirtballs exist on the left, too, and I wouldn't support them either. On Memorial Day Richard Blumenthal's "stolen valor" claims of serving in Vietnam come to mind, for ex.....

 

Where is all of your info coming from? Sounds like a combo of Ed Schultz and the Daily Kos.

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Serious question--not trying to be political. What do people think of Walker exempting firefighter, EMT and police unions from his law (unions that either supported him or whose members typically vote Republican)? Or his attempts to require voter ID without any history of electoral fraud in his state and then trying to close down DMVs in urban areas while extending voting hours in suburban DMVs? Apparently that was only stopped from happening when a Democratic legislator noticed it and publicized it. Anyone else listen to all of the "faux Koch" audiotape and come away absolutely convinced that govt was indeed for sale and feel like they needed to take a shower with how obsequious Walker was being to someone who wasn't even a resident of his state?

 

I actually agree with some of what Walker is trying to do--public pensions are no longer market standard and need to go down, for ex., and state workers need to pay in more for what they get in terms of benefits--but this guy is just such a personally flawed standard bearer for any kind of message of change that even if I were inclined to support his positions I'd hesitate over supporting such a scuzzball, but that may just be me. (This is all not even mentioning his being bounced from school (rumors of cheating) or banned from Marquette Univ. politics for dirty tricks.)

 

BTW, dirtballs exist on the left, too, and I wouldn't support them either. On Memorial Day Richard Blumenthal's "stolen valor" claims of serving in Vietnam come to mind, for ex.....

I would say that you are being swayed too easily to left wing propaganda

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Where is all of your info coming from? Sounds like a combo of Ed Schultz and the Daily Kos.

 

 

Not really. Here you go:

 

1. I listened to the "faux Koch" audiotapes--you can, too, at:

 

 

Always great when you can get to a primary source like actually listening to the phone call between Walker and a guy he thought was one of the Koch brothers, no?

 

2. The stuff on the firemen, police, EMTs has been reported all over from the beginning ad nauseum--so no real need to link that. Please feel free to link something showing I'm wrong on that; and

 

3. I've also read the DMV stuff in a number of places--the one I'd love to link to, but it's tough to find in retrospect via Google, is an essay penned by a 30 year Republican Congressional aide who was retiring in disgust at what his own party has turned into. He used the Walker example on DMVs as an underhanded trick that his party was all too often engaging in these days. Very well thought out and sad piece, unfortunately. Basically, the guy, who sounded like a good soldier sort, was quite upset that his own party was attacking his and his co-workers' integrity with their recent anti-govt diatribes. Here's another article on the DMV stuff--after this guy spoke up, Walker scrapped the plan to close a bunch of DMVs:

 

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9OKSP800.htm

 

4. The personal stuff is, as noted, rumor on the cheating bounce. I think I have read in a few spots about the student govt. scandal--here's one thing easily accessible via Google for a local Wis. paper:

 

"Actually, we need to start before Walker was elected governor -- specifically 1987, when Walker ran for student body president at Marquette University. During that campaign, he was found to be in violation of the school's campaign rules, including engaging in door-to-door campaigning, which was strictly prohibited. Walker was ultimately described to be "unfit for presidency" by the Marquette Tribune. When the Tribune endorsed Walker's opponent, Walker's supporters destroyed as many copies of the newspaper as they could find. This provides a window into our governor's character. Unfortunately, this incident received only cursory media attention during Walker's bid for governor."

 

http://www.thedailypage.com/daily/article.php?article=35966

 

How's that? Any answer to my original question other than throwing aspersions on my sources? Just because you don't want to believe something doesn't always make it so.....

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