Estelle Getty Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Does anyone else notice this. He has done absolutely nothing this year. I know he's a "run stopper" but he can't even do that. He gets no pressure and never makes a big play. How has he flown under the radar of getting the business? Watching him sunday he made Heard look like Ted Washington. He also looks very fat. We all noticed how poor Andre Davis has played, why not Edwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Does anyone else notice this. He has done absolutely nothing this year. I know he's a "run stopper" but he can't even do that. He gets no pressure and never makes a big play. How has he flown under the radar of getting the business? Watching him sunday he made Heard look like Ted Washington. He also looks very fat. We all noticed how poor Andre Davis has played, why not Edwards? He was actually in on at least a couple of plays yesterday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishP Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I thought he has been playing good, but I'm no talent scout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Does anyone else notice this. He has done absolutely nothing this year. I know he's a "run stopper" but he can't even do that. He gets no pressure and never makes a big play. How has he flown under the radar of getting the business? Watching him sunday he made Heard look like Ted Washington. He also looks very fat. We all noticed how poor Andre Davis has played, why not Edwards? He's still a pretty good run stopper but he gives you nothing in the pass rush...I don't know...I think he looked a lot better with Williams, Merriman, and Kelsay around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I don't review the guy play for play but he's been in on some plays this year. He makes tackles from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) Yahoo Sports box score says he he had more total tackles (combining solo and assists) than any other DL or LB against the Giants: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore;_ylt=ApE_QUCj0RqNIbcYI33CMTRDubYF?gid=20111016019 He also leads all DL in YTD tackles by a wide margin: http://www.buffalobills.com/team/team-statistics.html Edited October 17, 2011 by ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Defensively, I'm actually more concerned about "where's McKelvin?" This first round draft pick now has been demoted, but while he was in as a starter he was terrible. Dwan Edwards is not flashy in the least, but plays with a good drive and is tough on the edge. He is solid on the line and is tough to move. A player like that frees up blockers for your LB's to make plays. Edwards I would say is solid. Nothing more. Nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Defensively, I'm actually more concerned about "where's McKelvin?" This first round draft pick now has been demoted, but while he was in as a starter he was terrible. Dwan Edwards is not flashy in the least, but plays with a good drive and is tough on the edge. He is solid on the line and is tough to move. A player like that frees up blockers for your LB's to make plays. Edwards I would say is solid. Nothing more. Nothing less. He excelled in Baltimore when he had the supporting cast around him. It's like that here on a much smaller scale...he plays better with the talent around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Wow, I know I have not been able to watch many games but I listen to them all. Listening to the broadcasts they insist Edwards is our most consistent DL. They're saying he may not have the stats but he convincingly earns his check each play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) According to Profootballfocus.com, Premium Stats, our best lineman so far is the rookie Dareus. His most recent game earned him a +5.1, which is awesome. He's #19 of 59 on the list of DE's, ahead of Cameron Heyward, Jared Odrick, Vonnie Holliday. He's had 4 positive games out of 6. Our second best lineman is Dwan Edwards. He's #29 of 59, above Ricky Jean-Francois and Clifton Geathers. The CIN game was his best game, and only positive game, where he got a +0.2. He's had 1 positive game out of 6. Spencer Johnson is at #35, above Muhammad Wilkerson and Igor Olshansky. His last game was the worst, a -3.2, and he's had 2 positive games out of 6. Carrington is #44 among 3-4 DE's, and 3 of his last 4 games have been positive. Kelsay is not listed here. He's listed #59 of 69 DE's in the 4-3, below Carrington (our best 4-3 DE at #43), and Merriman (#53). He's also listed as 3-4OLB, #20 out of 53. 2 out of his 4 games played were positive in this role, netting a +4.7 in the OAK game. Moats is #26 as a 3-4 OLB and Batten is #39. Merriman is #47 out of 53. These stats lead me to believe we'll be shopping early for a disruptive DE who can play 3-4, but also a 4-3 DE (likely different players). Edited October 17, 2011 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 According to Profootballfocus.com, Premium Stats, our best lineman so far is the rookie Dareus. His most recent game earned him a +5.1, which is awesome. He's #19 of 59 on the list of DE's, ahead of Cameron Heyward, Jared Odrick, Vonnie Holliday. He's had 4 positive games out of 6. Our second best lineman is Dwan Edwards. He's #29 of 59, above Ricky Jean-Francois and Clifton Geathers. The CIN game was his best game, and only positive game, where he got a +0.2. He's had 1 positive game out of 6. Spencer Johnson is at #35, above Muhammad Wilkerson and Igor Olshansky. His last game was the worst, a -3.2, and he's had 2 positive games out of 6. Carrington is #44 among 3-4 DE's, and 3 of his last 4 games have been positive. Kelsay is not listed here. He's listed #59 of 69 DE's in the 4-3, below Carrington (our best 4-3 DE at #43), and Merriman (#53). These stats lead me to believe we'll be shopping early for a disruptive DE who can play 3-4, but also a 4-3 DE (likely different players). I hope people read and understand this after consulting the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) . . . Watching him sunday he made Heard look like Ted Washington. If Edwards contributed to making Heard look like Ted Washington, isn't that a good thing? Edited October 17, 2011 by ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) According to Profootballfocus.com, Premium Stats, our best lineman so far is the rookie Dareus. His most recent game earned him a +5.1, which is awesome. He's #19 of 59 on the list of DE's, ahead of Cameron Heyward, Jared Odrick, Vonnie Holliday. He's had 4 positive games out of 6. Our second best lineman is Dwan Edwards. He's #29 of 59, above Ricky Jean-Francois and Clifton Geathers. The CIN game was his best game, and only positive game, where he got a +0.2. He's had 1 positive game out of 6. Spencer Johnson is at #35, above Muhammad Wilkerson and Igor Olshansky. His last game was the worst, a -3.2, and he's had 2 positive games out of 6. Carrington is #44 among 3-4 DE's, and 3 of his last 4 games have been positive. Kelsay is not listed here. He's listed #59 of 69 DE's in the 4-3, below Carrington (our best 4-3 DE at #43), and Merriman (#53). He's also listed as 3-4OLB, #20 out of 53. 2 out of his 4 games played were positive in this role, netting a +4.7 in the OAK game. Moats is #26 as a 3-4 OLB and Batten is #39. Merriman is #47 out of 53. These stats lead me to believe we'll be shopping early for a disruptive DE who can play 3-4, but also a 4-3 DE (likely different players). Where do they rank K Williams, the Bills actual best defensive lineman? Edited October 17, 2011 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Does anyone else notice this. He has done absolutely nothing this year. I know he's a "run stopper" but he can't even do that. He gets no pressure and never makes a big play. How has he flown under the radar of getting the business? Watching him sunday he made Heard look like Ted Washington. He also looks very fat. We all noticed how poor Andre Davis has played, why not Edwards? Dwan is hardly the problem on this D IMO. He may not be a stud like Dareus & KWilliams, but he is a solid complimentary player. Great pick-up last year, I'm glad he's on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) More reason to put Marcy at the end Edited October 18, 2011 by EldaBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Does anyone else notice this. Nope. Just you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Yahoo Sports box score says he he had more total tackles (combining solo and assists) than any other DL or LB against the Giants: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore;_ylt=ApE_QUCj0RqNIbcYI33CMTRDubYF?gid=20111016019 He also leads all DL in YTD tackles by a wide margin: http://www.buffalobills.com/team/team-statistics.html part of the reason hes getting the tackles is they're running at him ,the same happened with fletcher,,the guy had huge tackle numbers but most of them were with cleat marks on his jersey ,teams ran over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) Where do they rank K Williams, the Bills actual best defensive lineman? They rank him poorly. First of all, he's lumped with NT/DT's, an unfair comparison for many of the stats. However, you asked. NT/DT's, Overall Ranking (Out Of 129): Dareus #17 of 129 (#10 pass rush, #40 rushing defense) Spencer Johnson #44 of 129 (#25 pass rush #70 rushing defense) Torell Troup #56 of 129 (#36 pass rush #79 rushing defense) Kyle D. Williams #108 of 129 (#64 pass rush, #38 rushing defense) Kellen Heard #114 of 129 (#90 pass rush #71 rushing defense) Dwan Edwards #121 of 129 (#102 pass rush #122 rushing defense) Edited October 18, 2011 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Edwards = Solid He's not a pro bowler, he's not a scrub. He's a starter on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Edwards = Solid He's not a pro bowler, he's not a scrub. He's a starter on this team. Again, of 129 people playing his position in the NFL, Dwan Edwards ranked #121 of 129 (#102 pass rush #122 rushing defense). He's a starter by default. He'll be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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