truth on hold Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 Why is the analysis didferent for tornadoes vs hurricanes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Why is the analysis didferent for tornadoes vs hurricanes ? Â Uh, because tornadoes and hurricanes are different? Tornadoes have a significantly lower and more sudden drop in air pressure, so people think that as a tornado passes over a house, the drop in pressure outside causes an overpressure inside and causes the windows to blow out and/or house to explode (like an expanding balloon). Hurricanes have a much smaller pressure drop, and much less sudden...while theoretically if a tornado passes over your house you might have a difference of 1.5psi in pressure between inside and outside, you're never going to see that with a hurricane (simply because the pressure drop isn't that sudden). Â Not to mention that the idea is complete nonsense - houses are not balloons. They're not air tight (not even close). You don't get meaningful pressure imbalances between indoors and outdoors, no matter how quickly the atmospheric pressure drops. The only thing opening your windows accomplishes is that it gets all your **** wet (and lets the wind in, which can cause shear forces on the house from the interior, which CAN structurally damage it - lift the roof off pretty easily, which is kinda important because the roof kinda holds the walls together.) Â Bottom line - unless you've got some really ****ty single-pane plate glass windows, or very large ones that can flex a lot (and thus can be flexed out of their frames 0 when you look at pictures of downtown New Orleans, and all the windows blown out of the hotels, that's how most of them went), they're probably not going to break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 That's retarded. It's not pressure differential that would break windows in a hurricane, it's the pressure of the wind on the glass. Partially opening the window doesn't change that. Someone's confusing tornadoes and hurricanes. Â And it takes about a 150mph wind to reliably break glass (I know the internet says 80. The internet's wrong.) Wind does, however, carry debris. But opening your windows to keep them from breaking is one of the stupider suggestions I've heard today. Depends on your window... PGT Windows are among many of the new style of windows that can stop a whole lot more then you'd think. I used to work for the company before they closed the nearby facility. This stuff doesn't break easily. For fun I used to try to take a sledge hammer to break through them...no luck...and I ain't no p^^^^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 What about taping inside of windows to brace them and I guess minimize flying glass if they break   all that does is give you windows that have to be cleaned after the storm. if not boarded, theres not much else to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Taping windows won't stop them from breaking, but it will absorb some of the shock. So you'll still have broken windows, but they might not shatter in your face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Depends on your window... PGT Windows are among many of the new style of windows that can stop a whole lot more then you'd think. I used to work for the company before they closed the nearby facility. This stuff doesn't break easily. For fun I used to try to take a sledge hammer to break through them...no luck...and I ain't no p^^^^.  Same here...I forget exactly what glass I have, but I do know it'll take a hell of a lot of shock. But that's not a common glass - the contractor-grade stuff that most houses would have won't take nearly that much. Your standard Andersen double-pane window might take 1psi...which is something like a 200mph wind.  Quality control matters a lot, too. That's why I used "probably" a lot in explaining all this - there's no guarantee a windowpane won't break in an 80mph wind, but if it does it's a good bet that particular piece of glass had a flaw in it.  Taping windows won't stop them from breaking, but it will absorb some of the shock. So you'll still have broken windows, but they might not shatter in your face  But it might keep shards of glass from flying. If you use a HELL of a lot of tape.  Really...if you're going to do that, just get the security film that 3M makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dante Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Better pick up a playboy when you're out. No internet if the power goes out. You'll have to kick it old school. lol..that's funny. Good luck anyway Joe. Was getting out of town ever a consideration? Is it to late now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fires Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Depends on your window... PGT Windows are among many of the new style of windows that can stop a whole lot more then you'd think. I used to work for the company before they closed the nearby facility. This stuff doesn't break easily. For fun I used to try to take a sledge hammer to break through them...no luck...and I ain't no p^^^^. I had PGT's put in a few years ago. (Still have shutters too) I'm a Firefighter and have seen some huge dudes beat on them with a Pick headed Axe, and not even dent them. (We do have saws that can cut through them) They are excellent windows, not only for storms, but well insulated, and you don't have to worry about punks trying to break a window to get into your house.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 lol..that's funny. Good luck anyway Joe. Was getting out of town ever a consideration? Is it to late now? it came on so fast didn't have time for alternate plans. Was anyone even talking about it a Few days ago vis a Vis NyC? At this point I reckon the transportation mess and going to somewhere thats not necessarily safer argues for staying here. Spent entire day prepping the place based on the thoughtful comments in this thread. Best I can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 Taping windows won't stop them from breaking, but it will absorb some of the shock. So you'll still have broken windows, but they might not shatter in your face What about window screens? Assume they're toast if not taken down? Problem with mine they're so old I'm afraid the act of taking them down wiould break them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Joe good luck! Lots of good suggestions on here, if you haven't already buy some rubber boots, if there is flooding you don't want to walk through the water outside without good protection (you may need to get out for some reason). Since you are probably in an old loft space building the mattresses (although the may get ruined ad wet as hell) against the windows is not a bad idea, the film stuff is good too but depending on which type, can be a B word (same as tape to remove) get the stuff in the basement out or put it as high as possible (if you have shelving). Buy a roll of plastic and some tape, in case you have any windows blow out and tape it up if you can, to keep the water out. Make sure your roof drains are clean and if you can put a little barrier, sand bags with space between them works good (I used to do this in my Chinatown buildings roof because the drain was just too small when we got heavy rains) around them so the water has a small wall to get over before the debris starts going down them. Get any expensive things off out side walls where water might come down near windows or roof drain pipes. Last thing make sure your last apt. insurance payment has been paid up. Again good luck and post pictures here if you get hit. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 Thanks Bowery. Youre lucky you moved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 We all know what Snooki is capable of from one passing of gas, but the hurricane is what we need to be talking about... Gov of NJ called Goodell and requested they reschedule the game to Monday evening. Why didn't Goodell do this on his own? More I see from Goodell less I care for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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