papazoid Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 One of the expected outcomes of any new NFL-NFLPA collective bargaining agreement is the re-institution of the NFL salary cap, because of it's value to overall league parity. We can safely estimate that the 2011 NFL salary cap (or 2012 NFL salary cap if there is no 2011 season) at somewhere between $130-$140 million per team. The Bills are currently at approx $88 million for 2011. The Bills will be $40 - 50 million under the cap. They will probably be required to spend most of it. http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/buf/buffalo-bills ** these are the players listed as of today on the Buffalo Bills active roster: Player Position 2011 Cap and/or Salary (ESTIMATED !!!!) Lee Evans WR 9,300,000 (10/2/08 signed 4yr/$37.25 mil) 2011@$3,275,000(met incentive) + $ 1,500,000 bonus Chris Kelsay DE $5,600,000 (9/29/10 signed 5yr/$28.2 mil) Terrance McGee CB $5,400,000 (9/18/09 signed 5yr/$27 mil) Shawne Merriman LB $5,500,000 (1/1/11 signed 2yr/$10.5mil) Dwan Edwards DT $4,500,000 (3/17/10 signed 4yr/$18 mil) C.J. Spiller RB $4,200,000 (8/6/10 signed 5yr/$25mil w/$20.8 guaranteed) Leodis McKelvin CB $3,900,000 (7/26/08 signed 5yr/$19.4 mil) Spencer Johnson DT $3,500,000 (3/1/08 signed 5yr/$17.5 mil) Kyle Williams DT $2,900,000 (7/3/08 signed 5yr/$14.5 mil) Eric Wood C $1,870,00 (7/28/09 signed 5yr/$9.335 mil) Steve Johnson WR $1,200,000 (was $550,000 but met an incentive for 4th and final year of contract). Reggie Torbor LB $950,000 Donte Whitner S F/A tendered Geoff Hangartner OL $2,550,000 (2/28/09 signed 4yr/$9.6 mil) Ryan Fitzpatrick QB $3,200,000 (met an incentive) Aaron Maybin DE $3,000,000 (8/21/09 signed 5yr/$17.6mil with $15 mil guaranteed )2011 salary @ $757,000 George Wilson S $2,500,000 (3/1/11 signed 3 yr/$7.05 mil) Rian Lindell K $1,450,000 Brian Moorman P $1,425,000 Fred Jackson RB $1,750,000 (met an incentive)(5/13/09 signed 4yr/$7.5mil) Keith Ellison LB F/A Ashton Youboty CB F/A Roscoe Parrish WR $1,525,000 (includes $500,000 roster bonus) John McCargo DT $0 F/A Paul Posluszny LB $0 F/A tendered Corey McIntyre RB $950,000 Mansfield Wrotto OG $1,300,000 (3/1/11 signed 2yr/$2.6 mil) Scott Chandler TE $0 RFA tendered Demetrius Bell OT $555,000 Reggie Corner CB $1,200,000 (met an incentive) Jon Corto S $600,000 (2/11/11 signed 2yr/$1.23 mil) Colin Brown OT $405,000 Jairus Byrd CB $1,000,000 (7/29/09 signed 4yr/$4.15 mil) Andy Levitre OG $890,000 ( 7/26/09 signed 4yr/ $3.56 mil) Shawn Nelson TE $550,000 (7/24/09 signed 4yr/$2.2 mil) Dan Batten DE $475,000 (6/3/10 signed 4yr/$1.89 mil) Levi Brown QB $405,000 Alex Carrington DE $665,000 (7/19/10 signed 4yr/$2.66 mil) Marcus Easley WR $580,000 (6/15/10 signed 4yr/$2.31 mil) Arthur Moats LB $475,000 (6/10/10 signed 4yr/$1.9 mil) Torell Troup DT $1,150,000 (7/28/10 signed 4yr/$4.61 mil) Antonio Coleman DE $405,000 Andra Davis LB $1,100,000 Quinton Ganther RB $0 Cordaro Howard OG $405,000 Donald Jones WR $405,000 David Martin TE $810,000 David Nelson WR $405,000 Erik Pears OT $640,000 Naaman Roosevelt WR $405,000 Bryan Scott S $1,150,000 Kraig Urbik OT $480,000 Ed Wang OT $500,000 (5/27/10 signed 4yr/$1.989mil) Jason Watkins OT $405,000 (1/4/11 signed a reserve/futures contract) Jonathan Stupar TE $0 F/A Garrison Sanborn LB $480,000 Chad Reinhart G $555,000 Brian Brohm QB F/A Akin Ayodele LB F/A Jehuu Caulcrick RB $405,000 Mike Caussin TE $405,000 Kellen Heard DT $405,000 Paul Hubbard WR $480,000 Felton Huggiins WR $480,000 Jammie Kirlew LB $405,000 (1/4/11 signed a reserve/future contract) Marcus Stroud DT $0- cut Drayton Florence CB F/A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeyBomb Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Shopping spree anybody? I would push hard for anybody to help this team. RT, ILB, and CB. Maybe even a TE or QB. I think those positions are decent this year in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 (edited) One of the expected outcomes of any new NFL-NFLPA collective bargaining agreement is the re-institution of the NFL salary cap, because of it's value to overall league parity. We can safely estimate that the 2011 NFL salary cap (or 2012 NFL salary cap if there is no 2011 season) at somewhere between $130-$140 million per team. The Bills are currently at approx $88 million for 2011. The Bills will be $40 - 50 million under the cap. They will probably be required to spend most of it. http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/buf/buffalo-bills ** these are the players listed as of today on the Buffalo Bills active roster: Player Position 2011 Cap and/or Salary (ESTIMATED !!!!) Lee Evans WR 9,300,000 (10/2/08 signed 4yr/$37.25 mil) 2011@$3,275,000(met incentive) + $ 1,500,000 bonus Chris Kelsay DE $5,600,000 (9/29/10 signed 5yr/$28.2 mil) Terrance McGee CB $5,400,000 (9/18/09 signed 5yr/$27 mil) Shawne Merriman LB $5,500,000 (1/1/11 signed 2yr/$10.5mil)Dwan Edwards DT $4,500,000 (3/17/10 signed 4yr/$18 mil) C.J. Spiller RB $4,200,000 (8/6/10 signed 5yr/$25mil w/$20.8 guaranteed) Leodis McKelvin CB $3,900,000 (7/26/08 signed 5yr/$19.4 mil) Spencer Johnson DT $3,500,000 (3/1/08 signed 5yr/$17.5 mil) Kyle Williams DT $2,900,000 (7/3/08 signed 5yr/$14.5 mil) Eric Wood C $1,870,00 (7/28/09 signed 5yr/$9.335 mil) Steve Johnson WR $1,200,000 (was $550,000 but met an incentive for 4th and final year of contract). Reggie Torbor LB $950,000 Donte Whitner S F/A tendered Geoff Hangartner OL $2,550,000 (2/28/09 signed 4yr/$9.6 mil)Ryan Fitzpatrick QB $3,200,000 (met an incentive) Aaron Maybin DE $3,000,000 (8/21/09 signed 5yr/$17.6mil with $15 mil guaranteed )2011 salary @ $757,000 George Wilson S $2,500,000 (3/1/11 signed 3 yr/$7.05 mil) Rian Lindell K $1,450,000 Brian Moorman P $1,425,000 Fred Jackson RB $1,750,000 (met an incentive)(5/13/09 signed 4yr/$7.5mil) Keith Ellison LB F/A Ashton Youboty CB F/A Roscoe Parrish WR $1,525,000 (includes $500,000 roster bonus) John McCargo DT $0 F/A Paul Posluszny LB $0 F/A tendered Corey McIntyre RB $950,000 Mansfield Wrotto OG $1,300,000 (3/1/11 signed 2yr/$2.6 mil) Scott Chandler TE $0 RFA tendered Demetrius Bell OT $555,000 Reggie Corner CB $1,200,000 (met an incentive)Jon Corto S $600,000 (2/11/11 signed 2yr/$1.23 mil) Colin Brown OT $405,000 Jairus Byrd CB $1,000,000 (7/29/09 signed 4yr/$4.15 mil) Andy Levitre OG $890,000 ( 7/26/09 signed 4yr/ $3.56 mil) Shawn Nelson TE $550,000 (7/24/09 signed 4yr/$2.2 mil) Dan Batten DE $475,000 (6/3/10 signed 4yr/$1.89 mil) Levi Brown QB $405,000 Alex Carrington DE $665,000 (7/19/10 signed 4yr/$2.66 mil) Marcus Easley WR $580,000 (6/15/10 signed 4yr/$2.31 mil) Arthur Moats LB $475,000 (6/10/10 signed 4yr/$1.9 mil) Torell Troup DT $1,150,000 (7/28/10 signed 4yr/$4.61 mil) Antonio Coleman DE $405,000 Andra Davis LB $1,100,000 Quinton Ganther RB $0 Cordaro Howard OG $405,000 Donald Jones WR $405,000 David Martin TE $810,000 David Nelson WR $405,000 Erik Pears OT $640,000 Naaman Roosevelt WR $405,000 Bryan Scott S $1,150,000 Kraig Urbik OT $480,000 Ed Wang OT $500,000 (5/27/10 signed 4yr/$1.989mil) Jason Watkins OT $405,000 (1/4/11 signed a reserve/futures contract) Jonathan Stupar TE $0 F/A Garrison Sanborn LB $480,000 Chad Reinhart G $555,000 Brian Brohm QB F/A Akin Ayodele LB F/A Jehuu Caulcrick RB $405,000 Mike Caussin TE $405,000 Kellen Heard DT $405,000 Paul Hubbard WR $480,000 Felton Huggiins WR $480,000 Jammie Kirlew LB $405,000 (1/4/11 signed a reserve/future contract) Marcus Stroud DT $0- cut Drayton Florence CB F/A Don't bet your house that there will be a salary cap when and if a new CBA is agreed to. A year ago when it was determined that they would play the 2010 season with no cap, most so called experts on ESPN, NFL Network, etc. said you would never see a cap again, at least in the form that they had it. Even if there is with the new CBA, nobody (outside of the people in the meetings, and that isn't guaranteed) knows what the cap level will be, so how can you know how far under it we are? As far as the numbers, they at least in part explain why this franchise has been so bad for so long. Almost $11 million to Merriman and McGee, who combined might have played 3 games last year. Over 2 and a half million to Hangartner, who has been a disaster since they signed him. 1.2 Million for Reggie Corner, why is he even still here? More than 5.5 million to Kelsay, while not as bad as alot of his haters on this board think he is, still that much for him, playing out of position? Edited April 20, 2011 by billsfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappy Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Every team will have money to spend but we will have major money to spend, finding the right players to come to a losing team in a city with a poor reputation of weather will be hard. Money has a way of overcoming those obstacles though, a lot of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 It's in the players best interest to have a salary cap. It's the rising tide that lifts all boats. It forces teams to spend close to the cap, keeps markets somewhat competitive and provides some financial stability for the league, which is good for the NFL for both the owners and players. Teams like the Jets and Cowboys who are so ridiculously leveraged with stadiums, can't afford to hire everybody, so you need to have a mechanism to spread that opportunity around. If you are a top shelf player, you want competing offers from a variety of teams, not just one or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 It's in the players best interest to have a salary cap. It's the rising tide that lifts all boats. It forces teams to spend close to the cap, keeps markets somewhat competitive and provides some financial stability for the league, which is good for the NFL for both the owners and players. Teams like the Jets and Cowboys who are so ridiculously leveraged with stadiums, can't afford to hire everybody, so you need to have a mechanism to spread that opportunity around. If you are a top shelf player, you want competing offers from a variety of teams, not just one or two. Exactly, people just do not understand what is going on here. The players actually want a cap reinstated. Be carefull what you wish for. The no cap last year was not the windfall that the players thought it was going to be. With a cap comes a floor & it was force teams such as the bills to bring their team salary up to that floor. No cap means small market teams such as the Bills could go as low as they want & like you alluded to the 6 or 7 teams that are willing spend can not hire everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 It's just where Ralph likes it. If we sign a starting caliber RT or a TE along with poz we'll be lucky imo. We'll most likely sign 2 Cornell green type player, someone that started for another team because they were the best option on a bad team, for 3 million and pass on a good player for 6 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 Top NFL 2011 Free Agents by Position http://www.footballs...freeagents.html while many of these won't make it to free agency (some have been franchised) it's fun to think of what could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) The Bills can circumvent the cap rather easily, if it is re-instituted. All they have to do is release some guys and their cap figure will be applied towards the cap, even though they don't really get paid a single cent by the Bills. This strategy was utilized often by the Bills' front office when there was a cap. We always had dead money going towards our cap figure. Another way to avoid spending up to the floor of the cap is to heavily front load contracts. The salary cap is a crock. Edited April 21, 2011 by DontCrossDaMoats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 The Bills can circumvent the cap rather easily, if it is re-instituted. All they have to do is release some guys and their cap figure will be applied towards the cap, even though they don't really get paid a single cent by the Bills. This strategy was utilized often by the Bills' front office when there was a cap. We always had dead money going towards our cap figure. Another way to avoid spending up to the floor of the cap is to heavily front load contracts. The salary cap is a crock. the salary cap in not a crock....it is the single greatest factor in parity and competitiveness....having said that, the league and players are looking to tighten up what you would call loopholes or shananigans: In previous seasons with a salary cap, there had never been a requirement that clubs had to spend a minimum amount of cash. The salary cap floor applied only to the salary cap — not cash spent – and thus included “dead money” including prorated money from bonuses paid in earlier years of player contracts and money that was accelerated from future years for players no longer with that club. Under last week’s proposal, such “dead money” would not be counted in the minimum cash guarantee ensuring that actual cash would be paid to players each season. http://nfllabor.com/2011/03/18/pash-proposal-to-players-offered-unprecedented-90-percent-of-salary-cap-in-cash/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 You are leaving out one big piece of information. The Packers, Steelers, Cowgirls, and even the Pats all spent less than the Bills. Its not like the entire league is at 100% of salary cap and the Bills are cheap. The Salary Cap in the NFL hasn't been like the Salary cap in the NBA the last 5 years or so. Teams aren't spending up to the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) Don't bet your house that there will be a salary cap when and if a new CBA is agreed to. A year ago when it was determined that they would play the 2010 season with no cap, most so called experts on ESPN, NFL Network, etc. said you would never see a cap again, at least in the form that they had it. Even if there is with the new CBA, nobody (outside of the people in the meetings, and that isn't guaranteed) knows what the cap level will be, so how can you know how far under it we are? As far as the numbers, they at least in part explain why this franchise has been so bad for so long. Almost $11 million to Merriman and McGee, who combined might have played 3 games last year. Over 2 and a half million to Hangartner, who has been a disaster since they signed him. 1.2 Million for Reggie Corner, why is he even still here? More than 5.5 million to Kelsay, while not as bad as alot of his haters on this board think he is, still that much for him, playing out of position? 1)McGee was hurt, yes, but has been a good investment considering his play over the years. Hopefully he is healthy and can rebound to solidify what is a thin position depth-wise. 2)Merriman was paid like 2mil last year, the new contract was signed in the off-season. So you're wrong. 3) Hangartner hasn't been horrible like you state. He's a 2mil per season interior lineman, not an all-pro making 6mil a year. 4)Reggie Corner, see depth statement. Least of my worries. JMO Edited April 21, 2011 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 the salary cap in not a crock....it is the single greatest factor in parity and competitiveness....having said that, the league and players are looking to tighten up what you would call loopholes or shananigans: In previous seasons with a salary cap, there had never been a requirement that clubs had to spend a minimum amount of cash. The salary cap floor applied only to the salary cap — not cash spent – and thus included "dead money" including prorated money from bonuses paid in earlier years of player contracts and money that was accelerated from future years for players no longer with that club. Under last week's proposal, such "dead money" would not be counted in the minimum cash guarantee ensuring that actual cash would be paid to players each season. http://nfllabor.com/...ry-cap-in-cash/ I hope that's true. Then we really have to spend some loot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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