Joe Miner Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Troup is plenty big enough to run the nose. He's what, 320 or so? You don't need a 350 lb pile of goo just to clog the middle in order to be good. A guy Troup's size with good technique who can anchor is what you need. If you can find a 350 lber with talent, you take him, but to think a 3-4 can't be successful without one is nuts. A handful of teams run the 3-4 without a monster in the middle and have been successful. Ratliff is a great 3-4 NT in Dallas and he goes about 310. Not to mention the fact that if you're just chasing fat guys, you're going to have to pull them off the field during nickel and dime situations, which is probably over 60% of the snaps. I'll take a guy like Troup who has the potential to still be on the field as a 4-3 DT when those packages are run. The notion that you need players to be X size so they can play Y position in a specific defense is ridiculous. Get players that can play, and don't concern yourself on whether or not they are the cookie cutter size/shape to play a position. The other thing about Troup was supposed to be that he had a body style that was well suited to add some weight to. I think with a good offseason of work, Troup still has a good shot at being the NT that we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Last year fans didn't want the 4-3 here, this year they don't want the 3-4. Is there a DC out there that teaches the 6-5 or the 2-9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Last year fans didn't want the 4-3 here, this year they don't want the 3-4. Is there a DC out there that teaches the 6-5 or the 2-9? Well said. 90% of the board wanted to rid the team of the tampa-2 back in 2009, and almost everyone wanted the 3-4. We switch to the 3-4, but now no one wants to give it time to make the transition and acquire the appropriate players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Here is a right back at you People complain about Whitner, Maybin, Stroud, Poz and McKelvin, then wonder why our coordinator can't make our defense dominant......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) The most tiresome trait of Bills fans is the need to ALWAYS have someone to hate. And making it worse, its usually for petty reasons. Even in WEEK ONE, a player or a coach will be targeted and THAT GUY will the labeled "the reason" for ALL the Bills failures. It can be petty and stupid: "We wears a headband!!!!!" "He doesnt wear a headset!!!!" "He had a bad game in a driving blizzard...he sucks!!!" It can have to do with on the field stuff: "He passes on third down too much!!!!" "He runs the 3-4/4-3/Tampa2, etc." And what makes it completely STUPID is the fact that these little petty items people focus on are taken completely out of context and scrutinzed. As if no player or coach has had a bad game in a blizzard...or chose not to wear a headset....or ran the Tampa 2 and won. or rin the case of Edwards, had a tough year coaching a team full of sub-par talent. Facts and context are dismissed. Groupthink rules the day. If many Bills fans dont have someone to burn at the stake, they arent happy. Its a mob-like "Chuck Dickerson" mentality and its boorish, ignorant and lame Edited January 6, 2011 by RkFast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I always found it curious. People hated the Cover 2, and rightfully so, and then criticized the Bills for moving to the 3-4. If they wanted to move even to a more stout 4-3 they didn't have the personnel either. The bottom line is that they needed to get bigger and the 3-4 was a means to an end. Ask yourself this - If Jauron and co. were still around would they pick players the size of Troup, Carrington, Moats, etc.? I'm willing to wait it out for another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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