akm0404 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 What does a guy have to do to win over these ungrateful fans ?? Well, how about we start with providing elite-level quarterback play. Not 20th best quarterback play. Not 'merely-better-than-our-last-stiff-qb' play. Nobody hates Fitz or even dislikes him. We love him. We want him on the team. We appreciate his fire and passion and leadership. We just want a Pro Bowl quality top 5 quarterback in the NFL, because we see that year after year after year the top 5 quarterbacks almost ALWAYS make the playoffs and compete for championships. The 20th best quarterback usually watches from home. We want a championship, right? Or is getting back to 7-9 good enough now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Well, how about we start with providing elite-level quarterback play. Not 20th best quarterback play. Not 'merely-better-than-our-last-stiff-qb' play. Nobody hates Fitz or even dislikes him. We love him. We want him on the team. We appreciate his fire and passion and leadership. We just want a Pro Bowl quality top 5 quarterback in the NFL, because we see that year after year after year the top 5 quarterbacks almost ALWAYS make the playoffs and compete for championships. The 20th best quarterback usually watches from home. We want a championship, right? Or is getting back to 7-9 good enough now? I think many fans do ask the question you pose. However, they see the BEST answer at getting to a top 5 QB as not being a draft pick of Harrington, Leaf, Smith, etc, The actual fact is that the Bills and 31 other teams made the complete error of passing on Brady 6 or so times rather than not trading up to pick Harrington over Mike Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Christ Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) you all know nothing about football but bills football.........just be happy with crap......every year we need to draft a QB.....1st rd ............tired of 4th tier qbs for the bills.....it continues Edited December 9, 2010 by Jerry Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Yeah he's got the most bizarre avatar doesn't he? Yours on the other hand…I'd drink beers with her. Don't you mean drink beers with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I think many fans do ask the question you pose. However, they see the BEST answer at getting to a top 5 QB as not being a draft pick of Harrington, Leaf, Smith, etc, The actual fact is that the Bills and 31 other teams made the complete error of passing on Brady 6 or so times rather than not trading up to pick Harrington over Mike Williams. Sorry man, but for every Brady, there are at least ten great quarterbacks selected at the top of round 1 of the NFL draft. Just because you CAN get an elite quarterback in round 6 doesn't make it the best or most predictable way. I don't want the Bills to select the next Ryan Leaf or Akili Smith either, trust me. But I'd rather they tried and failed to procure elite top-5 quarterback talent than throw up their hands and say it's too hard to hit on a QB and keep rolling out everyone else's leftovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Sorry man, but for every Brady, there are at least ten great quarterbacks selected at the top of round 1 of the NFL draft. Ok, I'll bite - name 10 great quarterbacks picked at the top since Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin_Bills_Fan Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I'd say I hope our GM makes that decision based on what happens between the white lines rather than what happens behind a podium. That makes is easier than, FITZ is our guy for the next decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebe's Kid Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Pleasantly surprised by a thread showing a little Fitz-loving...usually it is all hate, and how we have to replace him with a kid, with an huge contract, and accompanying ego...that will more likely than not be more of a problem than a solution. Fitzy is our guy...let's run with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) LOL. thanks SJ. I would as well. I'm a sucker for cute blondes who like beer. Cheers. Not to get too personal, but so am I! I swear my GF could be your avatars twin...from the neck up any way. She's moving in next week too Edited December 9, 2010 by Buffalokie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastRochBillsfan Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 LOL. thanks SJ. I would as well. I'm a sucker for cute blondes with big, beautiful brea...(ah, forgot this is a family sight) who like beer. Cheers. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) Ok, I'll bite - name 10 great quarterbacks picked at the top since Brady. Of the NFL quarterbacks with higher QB Ratings than Ryan Fitzpatrick, and their draft position: Michael Vick - Round 1, #1 (2001) Philip Rivers - Round 1, #4 (2004) Aaron Rodgers - Round 1, #24 (2005) Matt Cassel - Round 7, #230 (2005) Ben Roethlisberger - Round 1, #11 (2004) Tony Romo - UDFA Drew Brees - Round 2, #32 (2001) Matt Schaub - Round 3, #90 Kyle Orton - Round 4, #106 (2005) Jay Cutler - Round 1, #11 (2006) Joe Flacco - Round 1, #18 David Gerrard - Round 4, #108 (2001) Matt Ryan - Round 1, #3 (2008) Matthew Stafford - Round 1, #1 (2009) John Kitna - UDFA Payton Manning - Round 1, #1 (1998) Eli Manning - Round 1, #1 (2004) Josh Freeman - Round 1, #17 (2009) --- Ryan Fitzpatrick --- Sam Bradford - Round 1, #1 (2010) Carson Palmer - Round 1, #1 (2003) So yeah, it looks like pretty much all quarterbacks better than Ryan Fitzpatrick were selected extremely high in the NFL draft. Of the 21 highest rated QBs in the NFL this season, 13 were first round picks. Enjoy! Edited December 9, 2010 by akm0404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Of the NFL quarterbacks with higher QB Ratings than Ryan Fitzpatrick, and their draft position: Michael Vick - Round 1, #1 (2001) Philip Rivers - Round 1, #4 (2004) Aaron Rodgers - Round 1, #24 (2005) Matt Cassel - Round 7, #230 (2005) Ben Roethlisberger - Round 1, #11 (2004) Tony Romo - UDFA Drew Brees - Round 2, #32 (2001) Matt Schaub - Round 3, #90 Kyle Orton - Round 4, #106 (2005) Jay Cutler - Round 1, #11 (2006) Joe Flacco - Round 1, #18 David Gerrard - Round 4, #108 (2001) Matt Ryan - Round 1, #3 (2008) Matthew Stafford - Round 1, #1 (2009) John Kitna - UDFA Payton Manning - Round 1, #1 (1998) Eli Manning - Round 1, #1 (2004) Josh Freeman - Round 1, #17 (2009) --- Ryan Fitzpatrick --- Sam Bradford - Round 1, #1 (2010) Carson Palmer - Round 1, #1 (2003) So yeah, it looks like pretty much all quarterbacks better than Ryan Fitzpatrick were selected extremely high in the NFL draft. Of the 21 highest rated QBs in the NFL this season, 13 were first round picks. Enjoy! Matt Stafford has not provided an ample statistical set to be compared, sorry. I STRIKE HIM! So, with him out of the equation, that leaves 5 drafted in the top 5, 4 from this decade, 1 from the past five years. You interested in waiting another 5 years to get a quarterback with a RATING better than Fitz's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 QBS who have thrown 20 or more TD passes this year: Tom Brady Drew Brees Peyton Manning Phillip Rivers Matt Cassel Eli Manning Aaron Rogers Matt Ryan Ryan Fitzpatrick Kyle Orton Carson Palmer Looks like Fitz is in pretty good company. 6 out of these 11 were first round draft picks. 5 weren't. Who cares where a guy was drafted. If he can produce, does it really matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 (edited) Fitz is the man for this year and next year. You're right. But he's not the man for long term. We need that face NOW while we stll have a competent QB. Edited December 9, 2010 by DreReed83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndrums Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I think I have to agree with what a previous poster brought up...That most of the teams that selected a #1 QB, shored up their problems on the offensive line prior to making the pick, either though a previous draft or free agency. I think that the OL should be priority. I do like the looks of Tyrod Taylor, I haven't seen him mentioned much on the boards, any chance he falls to the 2nd round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Meathead, if I had a gf at the moment, your pic would weird her out. But since u r a Bills fan she would have to handle it or take a hike. Haha excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 What does a guy have to do to win over these ungrateful fans ?? The answer is easy. Win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 The answer is easy. Win games. yeah, I'm hip on the winning thing. however, even a good QB needs help to win. Considering that Fitz did put the ball right in SJ's hands in the EZ and he dropped it, cannot be laid on Fitz as not being able to win. Neither does getting the team into makable FG range only to have the kicker miss it fall on Fitz as not being able to win. Nor does driving in OT only to have the TE fumble fall on Fitz as not being able to win. If Santonio Holmes had not come down with that miracle catch in the SB, would we say Big Ben can't win the big games? Not to mention that Fitz is on a bad team. simply saying he needs to win games is over simplifying a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 It's funny, but I am looking at this QB situation from a completely different angle. I seriously doubt that Chan/Gailey would expect any rookie QB (even Luck) to step on the field and make a significant impact in 2011. Fitz is almost certainly going to be the starter next year. That means that the team will have to make a decision on whether they want to invest a high pick on a developmental QB. To me, that decision has more to do with what they think of Brohm than Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonster Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 LOL. thanks SJ. I would as well. I'm a sucker for cute blondes who like beer. Cheers. Is she German, cause I would like to take her to mein schlafzimmer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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