NaPolian8693 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) The real reason the Edwards situation ended like this was because there was a big locker room issue. The team lost all confidence in him after he refused to throw the hail mary attempt at the end of the first game, and several players went to the coaching staff. The pressure on the coaching staff mounted until he was finally benched. He did not take it very well, and the whole situation was dangerously close to having a Whitner-type tweet about it and it becoming a circus. This is what I heard through a pretty reliable source. Chan and Buddy are not totally clueless. They liked this guy and wanted to give him a chance, and it's not like in two weeks they magically realized what all the fans have known for quite some time. They were handcuffed in this situation, and I say good for the players for stepping up and trying to create a winning mentality. Edited September 27, 2010 by NaPolian8693 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Sounds reasonable enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 First you like the Kelsay signing, now you are privy to inside info? Oi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Interesting. Sounds plausible. It still reflects poorly on management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaPolian8693 Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 First you like the Kelsay signing, now you are privy to inside info? Oi. I will always support Kelsay and I have my reasons, but that is not related to this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Interesting. Sounds plausible. It still reflects poorly on management. As does extending Kelsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I will always support Kelsay and I have my reasons, but that is not related to this issue. I am from the camp where I don't think Kelsay deserves a roster spot next/ extension. Please convince me otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 As does extending Kelsay. Amen. Kelsay goes from a below average DL to a poor LB. What's the sense in extending his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I have no problem in extending kelsay. He is solid, and it's not my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 The real reason the Edwards situation ended like this was because there was a big locker room issue. The team lost all confidence in him after he refused to throw the hail mary attempt at the end of the first game, and several players went to the coaching staff. The pressure on the coaching staff mounted until he was finally benched. He did not take it very well, and the whole situation was dangerously close to having a Whitner-type tweet about it and it becoming a circus. This is what I heard through a pretty reliable source. Chan and Buddy are not totally clueless. They liked this guy and wanted to give him a chance, and it's not like in two weeks they magically realized what all the fans have known for quite some time. They were handcuffed in this situation, and I say good for the players for stepping up and trying to create a winning mentality. After one game the players went to the coach to complain? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Not throwing the Hail Mary, then running out of bounds on 4th down certainly would have had me bitchin' if it happened on a team I play for. I too, think Edwards knowingly choosing to 'just lose' with these actions sealed his fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaPolian8693 Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 After one game the players went to the coach to complain? Interesting. The players wanted to give the new coaches and management the benefit of the doubt, and also give Trent the benefit of the doubt. His gutless actions were so alarming that the players were ready to mutiny. Gailey was going to risk losing the team if he stayed with Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Makes sense to me, although we may never know the real details. I thought there had to be something going on behind the scenes for TE to go from starting to the bench and then to the street within two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaPolian8693 Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 I am from the camp where I don't think Kelsay deserves a roster spot next/ extension. Please convince me otherwise. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/120244-kelsay-deserves-the-extension/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 The players wanted to give the new coaches and management the benefit of the doubt, and also give Trent the benefit of the doubt. His gutless actions were so alarming that the players were ready to mutiny. Gailey was going to risk losing the team if he stayed with Trent. Gotcha, totally understand that. Do you mean week 1 or 2 bc he did same thing when he ran out of bounds at GB. I mean coaches see that too and then TE is nowhere to be seen yesterday (at least on TV). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polish lover Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Player complaining may have contributed, but the real reason Trent got cut was that he was miserably ineffective on the field and he has been in the past. Trent performed well enough in the preseason to give himself one last chance but then came out and produced the worst passing performance in the NFL over the first 2 weeks. This is not the way to prove to your coach that your past performance was due to the game plan and coaching. The team benched him and when Fitz had an infinitely better performance it became crystal clear that Trent was not worth the roster space. Locker room complaining may have contributed but it wasn't "the real reason". Trent got canned because he sucked. Also the reason why his only chance of signing elsewhere is as a 3rd stringer. 10 teams only have 2 QB's aside from the Bills. If none of them take them, what does that tell you....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/120244-kelsay-deserves-the-extension/ So your position is that the Bills shouldn't use the money or draft picks to improve on a very weak roster position, but to double down on a marginal player because he's a nice guy? With logic like that AVP would have moved ahead of Kelly on the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) Not throwing the Hail Mary, then running out of bounds on 4th down certainly would have had me bitchin' if it happened on a team I play for. I too, think Edwards knowingly choosing to 'just lose' with these actions sealed his fate. Not that we haven't known this but these two actions show his complete lack of situational awareness. You can't teach that. I, for one, once thought Trent had a chance to be decent but without this this segment of the "it" factor, he's no better than some Joe throwing a football in the lot during tailgate. Edited September 27, 2010 by DerekJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 After one game the players went to the coach to complain? Interesting. It took them all of training camp to work the gags off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 The real reason the Edwards situation ended like this was because there was a big locker room issue. The team lost all confidence in him after he refused to throw the hail mary attempt at the end of the first game, and several players went to the coaching staff. The pressure on the coaching staff mounted until he was finally benched. He did not take it very well, and the whole situation was dangerously close to having a Whitner-type tweet about it and it becoming a circus. This is what I heard through a pretty reliable source. Chan and Buddy are not totally clueless. They liked this guy and wanted to give him a chance, and it's not like in two weeks they magically realized what all the fans have known for quite some time. They were handcuffed in this situation, and I say good for the players for stepping up and trying to create a winning mentality. I not only agree this is completely plausible, it's likely to be dead on. Evans spoke of the lack of understanding and confidence in Trent, albeit in a diplomatic manner. Currently listening to WGR (for the Bills presser)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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