Gary M Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Not after they redefine "unemployment". Government employees that stay home and don't get a pension!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Who is they? and in what regards? "They" being the Democratic Party. And in regards to "Well...those 'official numbers' aren't the whole story, because in fact those so-called 'unemployed people' are actually fully employed looking for new work, and getting paid for it to boot!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Sorry, but I am not falling for this, as I so stupidly did with the "Bush Bad" stuff. President Obama is one guy and can only do what the rest of the government will allow. He can't arbitrarily make things right on his own, just because he wants to. No President gets (or should get) that type of power. We AREN'T a monarchy. Tell that to Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Sorry, but I am not falling for this, as I so stupidly did with the "Bush Bad" stuff. President Obama is one guy and can only do what the rest of the government will allow. He can't arbitrarily make things right on his own, just because he wants to. No President gets (or should get) that type of power. We AREN'T a monarchy. Actually, I think quite a few points on that list are properly addressed to Obama (whether one agrees or not is a different issue). Some, though - "Obama's response to the Gulf oil spill," for example - are, as you say, ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 a) This clown is not across the pond, he is in DC b) He's a clown c) He's a funny clown Obama doesn't believe in American greatness! Oh no! Apparently not. Obama once said that he "believe[d] in American exceptionalism, just as I imagine that Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism and the British believe in British exceptionalism." In other words, as Michael Barone recently put it, not at all. But the problem is this: whether Obama believes in it or not, American exceptionalism is a fact on the ground - and it is the principle reason that his cult of personality is unsustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Apparently not. Obama once said that he "believe[d] in American exceptionalism, just as I imagine that Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism and the British believe in British exceptionalism." In other words, as Michael Barone recently put it, not at all. But the problem is this: whether Obama believes in it or not, American exceptionalism is a fact on the ground - and it is the principle reason that his cult of personality is unsustainable. X. Benedictionary: American Exceptionalism = Pandering to constituents that need to believe the United States is #1 in everything therefore loved by God because God hates backing losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 X. Benedictionary: American Exceptionalism = Pandering to constituents that need to believe the United States is #1 in everything therefore loved by God because God hates backing losers. Long time, no post. Welcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Long time, no post. Welcome back. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 X. Benedictionary: American Exceptionalism = Pandering to constituents that need to believe the United States is #1 in everything therefore loved by God because God hates backing losers. Not exactly, at least by my definition. AE is a special pride in America and the American spirt of "can do", and we've done a lot. More in fact, than most other civilizations with similar (relatively speaking) assets of power and wealth. I think the average American thinks America generally tries to do "good" in the world - (whatever the hell that is). To me, President BO's instincts are not good. He sees America as a force for coercive evil. He seems to think it's "the man" that keeps the disadvantaged downtrodden. He does not seem to believe in capitalism. He thinks government is the answer to all problems. He's imbued with what I term a "cargo cult" mentality - that thinks mana will fall from the sky from the government's planes. It's a different kind of trickle down economics - one that the government doles out bread and favors from on high. I find it to be a plantation holder's mentality. Everybody's a victim - except the evil capitalists. It's trite rubbish, in my view. His election was a colossal mistake by the American electorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Not exactly, at least by my definition.AE is a special pride in America and the American spirt of "can do", and we've done a lot. More in fact, than most other civilizations with similar (relatively speaking) assets of power and wealth. I think the average American thinks America generally tries to do "good" in the world - (whatever the hell that is). To me, President BO's instincts are not good. He sees America as a force for coercive evil. He seems to think it's "the man" that keeps the disadvantaged downtrodden. He does not seem to believe in capitalism. He thinks government is the answer to all problems. He's imbued with what I term a "cargo cult" mentality - that thinks mana will fall from the sky from the government's planes. It's a different kind of trickle down economics - one that the government doles out bread and favors from on high. I find it to be a plantation holder's mentality. Everybody's a victim - except the evil capitalists. It's trite rubbish, in my view. His election was a colossal mistake by the American electorate. I don't agree with everything you said, but I give you a +1 on saying American electorate, instead of just the people who voted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I don't agree with everything you said, but I give you a +1 on saying American electorate, instead of just the people who voted for him. Thanks, Adam. I do try to be fair, for the most part. I am a crack pot, but I call 'em like I see 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Apparently not. Obama once said that he "believe[d] in American exceptionalism, just as I imagine that Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism and the British believe in British exceptionalism." In other words, as Michael Barone recently put it, not at all. But the problem is this: whether Obama believes in it or not, American exceptionalism is a fact on the ground - and it is the principle reason that his cult of personality is unsustainable. Obama is like a Bills fan who also likes the Dolphins and Patriots and tends to think their fans have more class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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