dajari9 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Plus a couple of other (simple) moves can get the Bills headed back to the playoffs... Based on only his athletic ability and track record (not his personal baggage) Vick is twice as good as any QB the Bills currently have on the roster. Although never Peyton Manning or even a Donovan McNabb, Vick was a good QB - a great QB when you factor in his running ability. Now, he is humble and eager to prove to the world that he can come back and be a great starting QB again in this league - and he'll come cheap and motivated. With Vick as QB, you draft a tackle with the #9 pick and place him at RT (to protect Vick's blindside)...rest of OL sets up like this: LT - Leveitre LG - Incognito C - Hangartner RG - Wood Pretty good offensive line...especially if you make this a RUNNING team. With Vick, Jackson and Lynch (who best be motivated or he'll get shown the door with a new regime) the Bills could have one of the top 5 rushing attacks in the league. To round out the offense - pick up a FA #2 possesion receiver (lose J.Reed) so reciever depth (TE too) looks like this: Lee Evans - 1 FA - 2 Roscoe Parrish (new "offensive" minded coach can bring out his potential??) - 3 Hardy - 4 Johnson - 5 Shawn Nelson (TE) Derek Schunamen (TE) Use the rest of the draft on the front 7 now that they're changing to 3-4 Defense - NT and OLB especially - secondary is already top 10 in NFL with good depth. Front 7 can line up like this: K.Willams (LE) Draft Pick/Free Agent(NT) Stroud (RE) Maybin (OLB) Poz (ILB) Mitchell (ILB) Draft Pick/Free Agent (OLB) Call me crazy but this team looks pretty good on paper and can play with all 3 teams in the division... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Vick = a POS as a person that sucked as an NFL QB, that spent time in jail and during that time lost his ability to be a great athlete which = WE SUCK EVEN FURTHER if we bring this assclown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajari9 Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 Vick = a POS as a person that sucked as an NFL QB, that spent time in jail and during that time lost his ability to be a great athlete which = WE SUCK EVEN FURTHER if we bring this assclown in. I agree that he is a POS as a person...that doesn't mean he wasn't a great player in the NFL. Nobody as seen enough of him since his return to know what he has left in the tank. For a 4 or 5th round draft pick...I think it's worth the risk. Worst case scenerio he is a "slash" type of weapon they use 5-10 plays a game. It's a win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I agree that he is a POS as a person...that doesn't mean he wasn't a great player in the NFL. Nobody as seen enough of him since his return to know what he has left in the tank. For a 4 or 5th round draft pick...I think it's worth the risk. Worst case scenerio he is a "slash" type of weapon they use 5-10 plays a game. It's a win win. We have parrish we can use for that. We have McKelvin we can use. I don't want that POS anywhere near this funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Belt Nights Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Plus a couple of other (simple) moves can get the Bills headed back to the playoffs... Based on only his athletic ability and track record (not his personal baggage) Vick is twice as good as any QB the Bills currently have on the roster. Although never Peyton Manning or even a Donovan McNabb, Vick was a good QB - a great QB when you factor in his running ability. Now, he is humble and eager to prove to the world that he can come back and be a great starting QB again in this league - and he'll come cheap and motivated. With Vick as QB, you draft a tackle with the #9 pick and place him at RT (to protect Vick's blindside)...rest of OL sets up like this: LT - Leveitre LG - Incognito C - Hangartner RG - Wood Pretty good offensive line...especially if you make this a RUNNING team. With Vick, Jackson and Lynch (who best be motivated or he'll get shown the door with a new regime) the Bills could have one of the top 5 rushing attacks in the league. To round out the offense - pick up a FA #2 possesion receiver (lose J.Reed) so reciever depth (TE too) looks like this: Lee Evans - 1 FA - 2 Roscoe Parrish (new "offensive" minded coach can bring out his potential??) - 3 Hardy - 4 Johnson - 5 Shawn Nelson (TE) Derek Schunamen (TE) Use the rest of the draft on the front 7 now that they're changing to 3-4 Defense - NT and OLB especially - secondary is already top 10 in NFL with good depth. Front 7 can line up like this: K.Willams (LE) Draft Pick/Free Agent(NT) Stroud (RE) Maybin (OLB) Poz (ILB) Mitchell (ILB) Draft Pick/Free Agent (OLB) Call me crazy but this team looks pretty good on paper and can play with all 3 teams in the division... All BOLD is wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Stop chasing names. There are no quick fixes especially not Vick or a high priced bandaid. The only FA we should bring in should be about 27 Y/o, weigh 300 plus and play OT or NT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 This may come as a shock to some people but hype doesn't always equal talent. Vick is all hype and little talent. Setting aside his character issues for a moment, Vick never did anything as a starting QB. He got the Falcons to the playoffs once. He lacks accuracy. He can't read defenses. He has one skill: scrambling. You can't build an offense around a guy like him. And, by the way, spending two NFL seasons in the slammer did not improve his skills. So you want the Bills, who have not had a good QB in years, to trade or sign Vick, who lacks every skill the Bills need in a QB? Are you so starved for media attention? Because that's all signing Vick will get the Bills. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Below are Vick's career passing stats from Atlanta from ESPN website. Would you really call him a good QB? He seems to have very pedestrian numbers for a QB. Career completion percentage is below 60% . No season with over 3000 yards passing. And a career passer rating below 80. YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT 2001 ATL 8 50 113 44.2 785 6.9 2 52 3 62.7 2002 ATL 15 231 421 54.9 2936 7 16 74 8 81.6 2003 ATL 5 50 100 50 585 5.9 4 49 3 69 2004 ATL 15 181 321 56.4 2313 7.2 14 62 12 78.1 2005 ATL 15 214 387 55.3 2412 6.2 15 58 13 73.1 2006 ATL 16 204 388 52.6 2474 6.4 20 55 13 75.7 2009 PHI 12 6 13 46.2 86 6.6 1 43 0 93.7 Career 86 936 1743 53.7 11591 6.7 72 74 52 75.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Below are Vick's career passing stats from Atlanta from ESPN website. Would you really call him a good QB? He seems to have very pedestrian numbers for a QB. Career completion percentage is below 60% . No season with over 3000 yards passing. And a career passer rating below 80. YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT 2001 ATL 8 50 113 44.2 785 6.9 2 52 3 62.7 2002 ATL 15 231 421 54.9 2936 7 16 74 8 81.6 2003 ATL 5 50 100 50 585 5.9 4 49 3 69 2004 ATL 15 181 321 56.4 2313 7.2 14 62 12 78.1 2005 ATL 15 214 387 55.3 2412 6.2 15 58 13 73.1 2006 ATL 16 204 388 52.6 2474 6.4 20 55 13 75.7 2009 PHI 12 6 13 46.2 86 6.6 1 43 0 93.7 Career 86 936 1743 53.7 11591 6.7 72 74 52 75.9 so youre saying you want him too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renfruzetz Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 The quickest way to the playoffs is: Draft the best LT at #9 Trade 2nd Rounder for McNabb (Throw in Fitz or Edwards, Brohm is #3) Pray a decent LB falls to us in the third. Kid from TCU? Keep the 4-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_red Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Leveitre moved to LG from LT for a reason. He is a LG not a LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Stop chasing names. There are no quick fixes especially not Vick or a high priced bandaid. The only FA we should bring in should be about 27 Y/o, weigh 300 plus and play OT or NT Unfortunately without a new CBA they don't exist this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Leveitre moved to LG from LT for a reason. He is a LG not a LT. He's talented enough to play LT, but like you said, there's a reason he's a LG...the biggest reason would be his wingspan, IMO. Tackles need have a longer reach because they're working in space...Andy's isn't all that long, if I'm not mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 If Major saw this thread hed be pissed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabres...yawn Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Vick=Scumbag Sociopath. I don't want this loser anywhere near Buffalo. Or my dog. Or my wife. Or my weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 I don't understand the facination with Michael Vick. Do you live in Atlanta or something? Mike Vick is a horribly inconsistent player. He makes a few good plays and alot of bonehead ones. Its very well documented that WR's don't do well with him at QB. Who was Roddy White before Matt Ryan arrived? Roddy was labeled a bust until a true pocket passer showed up. Vick is nothing more than a 5-10 wildcat player. It isn't what the Bills needed. WE need a hard as nails QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 This old tired discussion is 3rd only to the BS discussions about Jason Peters and The QB controversy. Seriously people. Have you lived under a rock? Do you not know that Vick lead the Falcons to many wins and playoff appearances with absolutely ****ty WRs if memory serves ? Whoever thinks that Vick has no talent is an idiot that is letting their personal feelings about his legal troubles cloud their pathetic little minds. If you don't want him here for his off field transgressions which he paid his dues for, say that is your reason and you want to continue to punish the man even more and that he is beyond redemption in the eyes of god. Don't make up bull **** about him not having been a very effective and exciting football player on the field. I'm sorry to be so blunt. He is not Peyton Manning that sits in the pocket. The guy is more of a Randall Cunningham Steve Young in his early days type QB. I too prefer QBs who are good traditional pocket passers that have the ability to run as a SECOND option but I wouldn't be some dumb as to say that Vick wasn't very effective at what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Vick is a joke. A disgrace. I don't want him anywhere near my Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Who was Roddy White before Matt Ryan arrived? Roddy was labeled a bust until a true pocket passer showed up. Roddy White was a raw rookie WR with less than 2 years of experience that couldn't crack the starting lineup and stay healthy enough to start more than half of the seasons games. That's who he was. BUT, being the rational person you are I assume you will blame his shortcomings on Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPhan Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 ...With Vick as QB, you...Call me crazy.... ...There, I fixed your post for you. Wanting to Bring Vick into Buffalo officially does make you crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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