TDO'Kearney Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I think fumbling the ball 6 times in a dome was the biggest factor in the loss.That being said, the Minnesota's coaching staff's absolutely gutless performance in the last 2 1/2 minutes of regulation was a close second. Gutless coaching staff? thank god we didn't get that leslie frazier guy then. I know, I know, he doesn't coach the offence. Couldn't resist the dig anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 My last post on this because it is literally the definition of beating your head against a brick wall. Five teams were not jobbed. They all had a chance to win the game. They failed to stop the opposing team and lost. No one went out, waved their hand, and gave them a win. They earned it. If I were in an outdoor stadium, in bad weather, high winds - I would give up the ball first, take the wind, and play defense. In a dome, no I'd take the ball first; and tell my offense to remember that they still have to play to win. No, what really happened is that in five games (38 percent of all OT games), the team that won a coin flip didn't have to play defense simply because of blind luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Emotional? Since when is "fairness" a signifier of emotion? It seems to me that you don't like how it looks - you're now resorting to an argument about defensive aesthetics rather than any sort of attempt to assess evenness. So what's the solution, Norm? The ONLY "fix" that would help keep people from whining would be to play a whole quarter, but then what? Does the last team to have the ball have an "unfair" advantage? Minnesota's D played a great game...until it mattered the most. Sorry, the OT rules are just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 So what's the solution, Norm? The ONLY "fix" that would help keep people from whining would be to play a whole quarter, but then what? Does the last team to have the ball have an "unfair" advantage? Minnesota's D played a great game...until it mattered the most. Sorry, the OT rules are just fine. Both teams touch the ball at least once. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 The ball didn't hit the ground at any point. So whether or not he had control on the way down is a moot point. What matters is that the ball didn't hit the ground. At the end of the play, Meachem had the ball in his possession, and without it ever once touching the turf. If that ain't a catch, I don't know what is. And, btw, that's exactly my point. You can't prove it wasn't a catch, because there's no conclusive evidence to prove it wasn't. Well, it seemed quite obvious to me that the ball hit the ground. I'm basing that my own eyesight and logically extrapolating the trajectory of a bobbled ball. (Please spare me the legalistic response about not seeing it on your television screen.) Feel free to believe otherwise. It's pretty clear that you're not going to agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 OT rules suck on ice. How about first team to 6 - that way a team actually has to drive more than 20-30 yards to win a game.......I can come up with at least ten ways that are better than this stupid coin flip system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 OT rules suck on ice. How about first team to 6 - that way a team actually has to drive more than 20-30 yards to win a game.......I can come up with at least ten ways that are better than this stupid coin flip system. First team to 6 is not better than a coin flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Both teams touch the ball at least once.Problem solved. That would work for me, too. If you score two field goals to my one, well then shame on my D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I personally don't mind the coinflip, but the only solution I have is to play a whole 15 or 10 minute quarter. That simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 So what's the solution, Norm? The ONLY "fix" that would help keep people from whining would be to play a whole quarter, but then what? Does the last team to have the ball have an "unfair" advantage? Minnesota's D played a great game...until it mattered the most. Sorry, the OT rules are just fine. I actually think there's a good solution: requiring the team that wins the kick to win by six points on the first drive. After that, three can win. Or simply winning by six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 All I can say is Live by the Favre, Die by the Favre. The dude did a great job all year of controlling his gunslinger reputation, and earning his best ever TD/Int ratio. So what's he do on THE most important play of the game (of the year for that matter)? That old trigger pops in his brain "I GOTTA make a play" and next thing you know it's New Orleans' ball. Same old Favre. I feel sorry for the Vikings fans going down like that. Top that off with what will forever be a controversial call on the Saints catch that made it 3rd and 3, and this has to be a very tough loss for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Both teams touch the ball at least once.Problem solved. And if they both score, and it's still a tie? I take it you're an NCAA fan, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 First team to 6 is not better than a coin flip Why not? A team either has to go all the way for a TD, or if they score two field goals, then at least I had the chance to score a TD, and I should have stopped them from scoring one of the field goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 That would work for me, too. If you score two field goals to my one, well then shame on my D. Exactly. Simple and effective. Plus great for the fans because it extends a fantastic game like the one we just saw that has now left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Man Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Has Farve retired yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 (Please spare me the legalistic response about not seeing it on your television screen.) Yes, but, Dave...THAT'S THE REPLAY RULE. If it can't be seen on the screen CONCLUSIVELY, it can't be overturned. You and I can debate till we are blue in the face as to whether or not it was a catch, but the ruling on the field was catch and there was no conclusive evidence to suggest overturning was a possibility. Ergo, I'm on the right side of history here. All hail me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 And if they both score, and it's still a tie? I take it you're an NCAA fan, then. Once both teams have touched the ball it's sudden death. And I think the NCAA OT system is a mockery of the game of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Once both teams have touched the ball it's sudden death.And I think the NCAA OT system is a mockery of the game of football. At least there's ONE half-sane individual around here. Half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I actually think there's a good solution: requiring the team that wins the kick to win by six points on the first drive. After that, three can win. Or simply winning by six. That's even better than my first team to score six plan..........I like Simon's too..........I like college..........I like any of them better than the present one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 At least there's ONE half-sane individual around here. Half. Where? I'll run him right the hell out of here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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