Jerry Jabber

Difference is, Regier had 15 years on the job with the same team as Rex and Doug have only been in their positions with the Bills for two years.

Thanks again for the update!

Thank you again Astro for another great and detailed report!

Astro & NY Nole, thank you very much for the detailed reports. I put more stock in what you guys report, than some of the beat reporters as they seem biased (Joe B. reporting Taylor had a "meh day" when he went 16/22 yesterday).

Former Bills related: Michael Silver ‏@MikeSilver 19m19 minutes ago I'm told by a source familiar with Chargers WR Stevie Johnson's knee injury that he has a torn meniscus & will have surgery soon @nflnetwork That sucks, I hope Stevie gets better soon!

Mike Rodak ‏@mikerodak 2m2 minutes ago EJ Manuel intercepted by Jonathan Meeks deep downfield as Dezmin Lewis can't come down with catch in double... http://es.pn/2apbo1P

Mike Rodak ‏@mikerodak 1m1 minute ago Bills WR Marquise Goodwin heading inside with trainers, who just summoned two EMTs from an ambulance to follow... http://es.pn/2ap9QEV Just can't stay healthy...such a shame. Joe Buscaglia ‏@JoeBuscaglia 8s9 seconds ago Stephon Gilmore just collected his second INT of Tyrod Taylor this camp. Great play on the ball. #Bills 0 retweets 0 likes Joe Buscaglia ‏@JoeBuscaglia 30s31 seconds ago Dan Carpenter has won today's kicking round. He went 6/7, missed from 36. Marshall Morgan went 4/6, misses from 34&42. #Bills

He's working for that big payday.

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Sal Capaccio ‏@SalSports 19s19 seconds ago Yesterday, the defense dominated the offense seven on seven. Today, the offense is winning.

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Very nice!

I agree. I feel before Whaley, the last good GM the Bills had was John Butler.

By that logic, Bill Belichek should have been given a very short leash in New England as he had a terrible tenure in Cleveland. Ryan took the Jets to the AFC Championship game twice with a crap QB. Plus, his Jets team beat the Patriots in the playoffs. I also feel the Jets GM did a terrible job of replacing players that left, such as Revis and Cromartie. As I said previously, it takes a good combo of a GM and coach to have a successful team.

Seems that you like changing the subject with multiple people. The title of the thread is "don't expect Rex or Whaley" so I'm talking about both. There is a lot that goes into the success or failure of a team. If the GM does not get the right players for the coaches offensive and defensive scheme, then it is not going to work. Same goes with head coaches that constantly change coordinators and schemes as there is always a learning curve during the course of the season. How many years have the Bills changed defenses between Marrone and Gailey? While I wished Schwartz was either retained as DC and Roman was hired as the HC or Schwartz was promoted to HC and Roman was brought in as the OC, it didn't happen. The Bills are not going to get much better if they keep changing coordinators and Head Coaches every couple of years. As far as the other short term HC's that got fired. With hiring coordinators as first time HC's, it's a crap shoot as that coach had no previous NFL head coaching experience, so no one knows how they are going to do.

The defense took major hits with losing Kyle and Aaron Williams, on top of the fact that Mario quit on the team.

After the Sabres failed to resign their top two centers, Drury and Briere, they had no good Centers left on the team. Centers are your QB's on ice. The Sabres at the time when the Pegula's bought them had a bunch of wingers that would be good on other teams third and fourth lines, but we're in the top two lines. That team needed to be scrapped and started over from scratch, which is something that's been happening over the past three seasons. At some point during the 16 year playoff drought, the Bills should have tanked for a few seasons to get a franchise QB and other elite talent. But instead, Ralph was on autopilot and let the wrong people run the organization into the ground. He also had Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker to throw to, which are a better WR combo than anything he had in his tenure in Buffalo.

Thanks for the laugh! Both were positional coaches that were clueless on how to run a team.

The only remote possibility I see Whaley and/or Rex getting fired is that the Bills finish the season between 2-14 and 5-11 with no significant injuries to key positions.

Cleveland is one example, the Raiders, Bucs and Redskins areother examples. Look at how bad those franchises sucked. The Raiders and Bucs have been terrible since they were in the Super Bowl. The Redskins have been a joke of an organization since Snyder bought them. I think they've had two playoff appearances since he bought the team and went through coaches either on a yearly or two year pace. And what makes you think the Bills will fire Whaley & Ryan? Because Vic Carucci and Jim Kelly said so?

And look at how those teams are still doing...terrible! Cleveland has a history with Haslam of constantly firing coaches quickly and how well has that worked for them? Look at the Pegula's track record with the Sabres. They're not the type to make quick, irrational decisions. Also, the Pegula's don't see this as year #16 like the rest of us Bills fans, they see this as year #2. So while others in the media feel that if Rex and Doug don't make the playoffs this year that they're going to be fired, they're just trying to stir the pot in hopes that ownership will listen to them and act upon it. Sorry, but the Pegula's are patient people and even Kim Pegula and Russ Brandon confirmed it on the radio.

Two years is nowhere enough time.

For those that think either Rex Ryan and/or Doug Whaley will be fired in the offseason if the Bills fail to make the playoffs, it's not going to happen. Both Kim Pegula and Russ Brandon stated on WGR550 that they believe in continuity and this is only year 2 in the Pegula/Whaley/Ryan era. http://media.wgr550.com/a/116124419/07-28-bills-president-russ-brandon-on-the-john-murphy-show.htm?pageid=1114062