Big Turk

If there is a team that could do it, it's the Bills....their D has been pretty great on short yardage situations over the last few years with multiple stuffs on 4th and 1. Gotta get low...if anything maybe just dive right through and try and take the center/guards legs out so they can't down underneath you and have the backers clean it up.

Wait til year 2 when teams figure out how to expose and attack it...his defense goes down the tubes like Greg Roman's offense does as time goes on. We have also seen that firsthand multiple times in both cases with multiple teams now.

Well...maybe...sometimes that doesn't happen until the following season tho. There are a lot of times when teams will win a lot of games like that one year and then lose most of the games like that the following year. Why? Honestly, mostly just luck. Luck plays a much, much bigger role in sports than most want to give credit for or admit. I am sure someone somewhere is convinced the Eagles did something to make MVS drop a wide open game winning TD, Watson drop a wide open 4th and 25 conversion in Eagles territory that would have been a first down instead of ending the game. Or maybe the Texans did something that caused Tyler Boyd to drop a wide open TD late in the Texans game that would have given them a 4 point lead. Broncos must have done something that made Gabe Davis drop a perfectly thrown pass in stride inside their 15 yard line that bounced off his hands and became an INT instead of first and goal... No...that was just luck. Sometimes you are the beneficiary of it and sometimes you aren't.

Maybe Linval Joseph can help. He was there last year and probably went up against it in practice. Bills run D has been stellar since he has got here, only allowing 3.1 YPC in 3 games.

Giving Denver average starting field possession of their own 42 yard line and 4 TO's is why they lost that game, not the defense. Usually because we have turned the ball over multiple times in those games. I'm not worried about the past. If this was the first game of them hitting their stride, nothing else will matter. They are capable of beating anyone. At the end of the day people spend a lot of time wrangling about stuff when what they really need to understand is that luck plays a much greater part in sports than we want to admit. Did the Eagles do anything to cause MVS to drop an easy wide open TD that was thrown perfectly that would have given the Chiefs the lead late in the game? No. Did they do anything that caused Watson to drop a perfect pass that hit him right in the hands on 4th and 25 that would have converted the 4th down in Eagle territory instead of ending the game? No. Did the Texans do anything to cause Tyler Boyd to drop a wide open TD late in the game on 3rd and goal that would have given them a 4 point lead instead of just letting them kick a FG to tie it which then allowed the Texans to kick the winning FG a few plays later? No. Did the Broncos do anything to cause a wide open Gabe Davis to have a perfectly thrown ball go through his hands and bounce right to a Bronco defender for an INT at the Denver 10 yard line? Giving the Broncos the ball instead of the Bills having a 1st and goal? No. Go back and look at virtually every close game and you will see luck played a factor in the winner and loser and also explains why there is almost no correlation between teams records in 1 score games from 1 year to the next. The whole "This coach/team can't win 1 score games" is mostly nonsense. Teams that typically do great in 1 score games one year, often times do terrible the following year. Why? Luck. That's why. The best way to ensure you have a winning record is to not allow the game to be that close at the end so there is a chance luck plays a part.

Actually without their top 2 CBs. Reid was also out that game.

Honestly I figured the refs would get flag happy like they have in almost every game this year.

Still overruns plays at times, but he is a rookie, it's going to happen...dude is going to be a baller tho. And yet still 4th in the NFL in defensive scoring allowing only 17.3 PPG and one of two teams that hasn't allowed 30 points this year...this ain't struggling. We saw a lot of struggling during the drought years. Assuredly, this wasn't what it looked like.

You mean other than Knox hasn't been that in over 2 years now?

Seems like Linval Joseph is really having a major impact on the run D...Bills have only allowed 3.1 YPC since he has been here. Have you noticed anything on tape that stands out other than him occupying double teams and being an immovable object in the middle of the line? I have seen Bernard appearing like Flash Gordon in the backfield like he was shot out of a cannon on several plays over the last few weeks to make TFL's to the point I am like where the hell did he come from?

Bills run D is only allowing 3.1 YPC since Linval joseph has got here. Keep that up and it makes it much easier in all areas. Teams will be forced to drop back against that pass rush.

Ehh...I mean there is some truth to the division game thing, but the Eagles also lost to the Jets and Zach Wilson didn't look horrendous against them either. Also Allen is tied for 15th in the NFL in passing attempts per game, so he actually doesn't throw that much, he is pretty much league average.

Benford plays well, sometimes gets his hands on balls, rarely makes the INT. That's why it's not a discussion between him and Douglas. Gotta make plays when you are in the position to make plays instead of giving the offense another chance.

Sam Howell put up 290 yards passing in the first game and 397 with 4 TDs in the 2nd game. I mean c'mon...like now we are saying Sam Howell is better than Josh Allen? The same dude that looked clueless and was sacked 9 times by us while throwing 4 INTs? They are just getting started, just watch.

For a second I thought that said Shaq Lawson and I was like WTF??? Dude just had himself a day against the Jets

Douglas is a closer...I believe he leads the NFL in 4th Quarter/OT INTs over the last 3 years as well. There is no way in the world I would start either of the 2 players we have over Douglas. It's not even close at this point.

More like Allen is having a terrible year with luck in terms of defenders making interceptions where they don't on other players...his turnover worthy plays are way down at like 2.5% of plays, ranking 7th in the NFL(maybe higher after this week). Hits Davis in the hands perfectly in stride and it goes thru them for an INT last week, Hail Mary attempt at the end of the half this past week gets picked off... Yeah, he has made some bad throws for sure, but there is a lot of noise in those 12 INTs that other QBs don't seem to have. Well...we have played the Jets and Commanders who both made claims to that title of having the best front 4. Allen has only been sacked 14 times all year long, so the line is doing quite well. And that Eagles line can be run on... Sam Howell threw for 290 in their first meeting and 397 with 4 TDs and completed 75% of their passes in their 2nd meeting. Bills have more sacks, QB Knockdowns and a higher pressure percentage than the Eagles do. Maybe they should spend some time worrying about our D line who is 2nd in the NFL in sacks and who is allowing 3.1 YPC on the ground since we got Linval Joseph.

Packers didn't seem to know where to play him...if I remember correctly he started as a CB and then went to Safety, played some Nickel CB and was rotating like a swiss army knife for them for a while. Bills made him strictly a safety and it worked out well for all involved.

Philadelphia has struggled on offense much more than last year for most of the year even tho they are 9-1. Almost lost to the Commanders twice and they put up 31 points on the Eagles in both games. Both QB's threw INT's in last nights game that would have had the internet on fire if Allen had thrown them as terrible INTs and signs that he is playing Hero Ball far too much. Both Hurts and Mahomes have 9 INTs on the year and each have played 1 less game than Allen. DVOA shows we are a better team than the Eagles, ranking 5th versus their 10th. Better on both Offense and Defense according to DVOA than the Eagles are.

No...this is a Fins fan who comes here as a wolf in sheeps clothing and you all keep falling for his trolling and I keep calling him out for it. There is no game that is "unwinnable" with Josh Allen as QB. He could literally take over a game and become unstoppable and nothing else would matter. I mean according to some people here this is like the Kay Stephenson era Bills playing the 85 Bears. Give me a break.

Uh..no it hasn't. Not even close...whoever has played the NFC South has had the easiest schedule. Yes, because football is played like that. You could argue this for every team in the NFL in some way form or fashion. They put up the most offensive yards and points against that team this year. The offense took a little while to get in rhythm but they were moving the ball well on that defense.

More like classic case of him actually being a Fins fan in disguise and pretending to be a Bills fan and trolling us every chance he gets. Chiefs defense is nasty...I still don't know how they blew that game...Eagles only had 240 yards of total offense.

Part of the reason why 2020 hasn't happened again offensively is because the league has adjusted to teams defensively and are forcing long drives far more than they did back then. Points are down over 3 points per team on average, meaning over 6 points per game, yards are down, passing is down. Teams are not going to just let you throw the ball over their heads every play anymore. Defenses have improved in terms of schemes and player types to defend the pass happy attacks. McD is partially right...running the ball well WILL open up more passing windows for the Bills to throw into as well as potentially opening up deep shots when the defense gets tired of giving up 5-6-7 yards a play. There needs to be a balance and what that balance is changes every game...this week we ran more than we passed and it worked out well. Most weeks that won't happen, but we can't have 45 passes and 15 runs and think that is going to work most games. Defenses have become too good at defending you if you become one dimensional now and ESPECIALLY if it's from your own doing not because they were stopping your run game. IMO, when the Bills are at their best offensively, teams are off balance because they are doing both and doing both well...along with sprinkling in some designed runs for Allen. When the Bills willingly limit themselves by becoming too pass happy and don't use any designed runs they are basically helping the defenses and making it easy for them.

Imagine playing a game with Josh Allen as your QB and thinking you don't have a chance. Dude, go play hopscotch, professional sports clearly is too much for you to deal with mentally. Better yet...go back to FinsHeaven and play with your Fin fans.

Defenses have been clawing back quite a bit this year in terms of yards and points allowed per game. Scoring peaked in 2020 and has been falling ever since...2020 was the highest scoring season in NFL history(24.8 points), this year is tied for 28th currently(21.7 points). These are per team averages so scoring in a game is down over 6 points on average from 2020. Yards gained again peaked in 2020 with teams averaging 359 yards, most in NFL history, this year we are 17th at 331.1 yards per team. Yards per play peaked in 2020 at 5.6 YPP, again highest in NFL history. This year we are at 5.2, the lowest since 2007. Yards passing are slightly up over last year but down over 20 yards from 2020, which surprisingly was only 3rd in NFL history in terms of average yards per game. 2015 and 2016 both had more yards passing per team on average, but only by 2-3 yards. Seems defenses have made adjustments to the pass happy attacks and have gotten better schematically and personnel wise to reeling them in somewhat.