Niagara Bill

I started a conversation of events covering 35 to 40 years, the trillions spent the failure to build a country, the industrial military complex, death of soldiers, and terrorists winning. For a while people talked about the facts of the last 20 years...BUT ONCE AGAIN IT BECOMES TRUMP BIDEN. I say, screw both of them, they both did noting right. Time to follow the money...who got it at the expense of dead soldiers. Which generals screwed up. If Trump Biden continues....just end this thread. We all know Biden was responsible for Vietnam, and trump would have won Korea if they listened to him.🤐

Now there us a piece of blabber if I ever read one. You have very selective vision. A homer to use a sports cliché. You could chase the taliban, you couldn't catch them, and then became afraid of Pakistan!!!. 😅 Pakistan was an excuse the generals and contractors and military industry used to keep the money flowing. Military socialism at the expense of front line soldiers lives. The taliban never left, the generals likely made a deal. If they were in Pakistan, it only took a day for all of them to come back. Seriously flawed premise snafu. You never turned over the reigns to anyone in reality. If you did, 7 yrs later they still were not capable. Again the rich contractors and generals. If you believe that there is lots of swamp in Fla. for you to buy. Keep your chin up snafu...

Love how everyone wants to debate small details when the overarching issue it doesn't matter. Different name, same group of terrorists. Same goal, same results. Same bs. The US spend 20 years, Russians spend 12 to 20 then turned the battle over to US. Both superpowers (laughable term after the results) spent trillions....more than just chasing Osama.,follow the money....military contractors and ex-generals getting rich. Socialism for the defence industry, at its best.🙂🙂🙂🙂

After 20 years of financing Afghani rebels (taliban) in their fight against Russia over oil and minerals, Russia gave up and short time later the US uses terrorists as an excuse to fight the same group.

Hey hey hey...easy on Zayman. Gruden had him coached up by Maybin. 😁

Joe, yes, but 3 others as well, trump too. They equipped taliban terrorists, created rich military contractors and ex generals with tax payers money, enhanced the drug trade, and further hurt the US reputation. If you served there you should hate the contractors and ex generals who got rich on your life risk. You did nothing for your country or Afghanistan. Not your fault, you did what was asked. The pols bd generals didn't care. Vietnam 2.

They did, after 20 yrs.

Pot growers...😁 But seriously..this was a 2 trillion dollar boondoggle. Get rich reward for a bunch of ex military guys and contractors. This is not trump, Biden, this is totally inept military leadership.

So dude, the Canadian army was there right up until yesterday, under the overall guidance of a few US Generals who obviously were not capable and could even predict the government would fall in a week, without a shot.

4 US Predidents, 2 political parties, 100 military generals, 1000 diplomats, over 20 years spent 2 trillion dollars making military contractors very wealthy, making the taliban one of the best supplied military units in the world, let Russia out of their fight of 20 year, allowed another extremist country exist, Then they embarrassed themselves losing and blame the Afghani government for their own failures. BOONDOGGLE. The US military has found itself leaderless. Cannot plan a party. They need Radar, Hawkeye, BJ and Margaret.

People were trained as it was a way of making a living not to defend their country. Just a big social program and all the military leaders in the US, all the big time military contractors...the biggest social program in America, had a gravy train. Terrorists hid in Afghanistan but were not necessarily Afghanies. Just an excuse for military socialism, not nation building. And why would anyone want to take over this dust bowl...and why was it a good place for military contractors to get rich....because it is a big dust bowl and nobody in the world cares, not Europe, not the UN, not China, no one.

Your first paragraph wants someone who will catch a punt. Coach Phillips had a punt catcher named Watson. Maybe he is available. He got Bums son fired.🤣

When MacKenzie gets hurt who returns punts and kick offs? Consider Stevenson stays or Mac will never see an offensive play. Last year you had two capable returners.

Been looking at some of the pics of the Taliban taking over government offices. Looks strangley like Jan 6 at the Capital.😅😅😅😅😁

Peter??. Is this guy a friend?? 🙂

Only question remaining...how to keep the military contractors busy and happy. Employment levels will fall. This is the biggest socialist program in the country.

Recap. First 10 years the armed forces spent 1 trillion on chasing some guys in caves, bombing dust bowls, getting soldiers and airmen killed, got their men, Second 10 yrs, spent 1 trillion dollars to train an untrainable cowardly force, for a useless government, in a dust bowl, made the opposition army one if the best equipped in the world ( except uniforms), lost uncountable number of servicemen, made some military contractors very rich, got embarrassed on the way out, proved military leadership has no effective judgement of the opposition, and LOST the war The next future 10 yrs will be spent in veteran hospitals, looking down on the service men that failed, dealing with Afghanistan immigrants, hoping they are not terrorists, and pointing political fjngers. The military contractors need work so what us next.??

Not sure treasure is the right descriptor.

Occasionally a 55-60 player hits thus cut. 1. Because they have fewer players at a certain position and must keep extra OL for example to insure veterans are not over worked in practice, 2. To hide a real project for our future practice squad so other teams do not take an interest. Ie. They may cut a guy like Stevenson early BECAUSE they like him. Just a chess match.

Now there is a perspective I never considered.....too bad. I thought Joe may have been the better politician and have more success and less controlled by the party. He seems to have made Cortez etc disappear from the public.

I do not understand this thread...about an irrelevant guy. As President he was so inexperienced that he could not control his own party...ie Nancy...and by the time he figured out how to be prez his term was over. He may be a better prez today ...but that is irrelevant.

Flutie Johnson again Oh my

Thank you 4 different Presidents and 2 political parties

Worried now, but this has been 20 years of this poop.

Trump never did poop, This dirt hole, like all the mid east dirt holes cannot be changed from the outside. This is religion and power, vs death. Not true about the oil. If the US needs oil, they can get more of it from Canada. What they don't want is to give it to someone else. This fight us about keeping military contractors rich and developing weapons Suddenly terrified about someone getting killed. 20 yrs my friend, did you care before