Southern McButterpants.

I know that the popular opinion is to dump both of them, but this team cannot improve if they continue to make holes that they have to fill via the draft or FA. Witness Antoine Williams, Pat Williams, London Fletcher, Jason Peters, ad nauseum. At some point you have to keep your average players and put better players around them. Whitner is not an All-Pro, but is still useful. Poz is useless in coverage, but is good in run defense . . . If you want to turn around the franchise and actually win more than 4-6-7 games, you have to keep some talent and raise the overall talent level on the field.

Only in New York State . . .

I know. It's re-diculous! That said, Whitner does not have the numbers to be paid like a top 5 safety. Kudos to the FO for offering him fair market value. My God, the board would melt if they over-paid Donte . . .

Good lord, I am so sick of losing this badly, at home, to this group of d'bags . . . Had a chance to go to the game and I'm REEEEAAAAALLLYYY glad I didn't. So glad that Whitner and Poz showed up today.

Way to go Russ. We should all run out to Russel's Steaks & Chops and eat like starving horses.

Did you also see the comment about Freddy J. torturing the Bills as a member of the Pat*s someday? Didn't we just lock up Fred for 4 years, and isn't he 29? I hate asshat comments like that . . .

Definitely wierd. I'm not a foot guy . . .

Instead of the traditional post game handshake, Belichick gave Chan the high hard one up the ying yang, while yelling "you're my bi-otch now!" Don't you remember that??

+1,000,000 Why would you not be there with one of your best friends at the end? Don't let him/her be alone confused and afraid in the last few moments. Hard on you I agree, but it's not really about you at that time. . .

Then they'd be bitchin' about Whitner making the tackles 10 yards downfield . . .

I fully agree. He was terrible. Aside from the fact that he cannot pronounce the team name (Bee-ows) . . . Did anyone else hear him giggling with glee when Palamaulu (sp?) intercepted that goal line pass with 2+ minutes to go?

Saw that on Drudge earlier. Very sad.

I was tempted to watch PMSNBC last night so I could watch the whiny-girl show, but I didn't want to give them the ratings uptick . . . Seriously.

That was sound advice in 1999, but today most banks cover any fraud liability 100%. What you should really do is make certain that your debit card has full liability protection. On a related note, when you are asked debit or credit; always select credit. A debit transation is paid for by you (not much . . . usually less than 15 cents), wheras a credit transation is paid for by the vendor. Fez, I'm not trying to pick on you, but this is just incorrect. A bounced mortgage payment would only be reported to a Credit Reporting Agency if the payment is more than 30 days late. A "bounced" payment is not reported. Secondly, considering how poorly most people manage credit cards, I would hesitate to recommend using credit cards simply because they are available to you.

I subscribe to the George Costanza theory of Parking and Prostitutes. Why should I pay for it when, if I apply myself, I might get it for free? I hit it that, hard . . . but not for $12K.

Welcome to the ignore user list!

Best 10 minutes I'll spend all day. I recall watching the game, and knew that the Bills won. I had forgotted about the last minute FG attempt to tie . . . Maybe I'm just being a Bills fan, but doesn't Enberg seem like he's totally ball-washing for the Niners? Wide open, Lofton holds on despite a jarring hit (where Lofton pops up and the DB stays on the ground), that's awfully close to a fumble. . . . etc. Seemed like a lot of cheerleading for the niners in that clip.

+1. Great band . . .

OMG . . . .

hmmm . . . lots of food for thought here. Here's a never-was: The Paul Collins' Beat. Part of the same power-pop movement that gave us Eddie Money and Cheap Trick. These guys never caught that BIG break: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoCs-qDTaog

+1 (thank God!)

Right . . . i know. . . I've been one of the few that rage against the Ngata parade. I realize that Ngatra would likely be a better player for the Bills . . .However, you missed my point. Whitner PLAYS for the Bills . . . Maybin wears a uni (for now) . . . Are you seriously going to tell me that the gap between Whitner and Ngata is more than the gap between Orakpo and Maybin?!?!?!?!? Jesus. Buy a f'in clue peeps . . .

At least Whitner has a moment here and there and is a starter. Maybin can't even sniff the field, even with this pathetic defense . . .

Sully is a nattering nabob of negativism . . . While he occasionally makes a valid point, there are 2 glaring errors in his latest diatribe: Spiller wasn't a reach at 9 and Donohoe was nowhere to be seen when it all unraveled in December of '05. Check yer facts . . .

Best. thread. title. ever.