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Thank you. You've now proven that you are unable to identify a single falsehood in the article. The closest you've come is 1), but calling the episode a "secret" is at most just a bit of hyperbole. I think I've been paying attention the past 20 years, but I'd never heard of these incidents until now. And of course there HAS been secrecy--Manning paid handsomely for her silence when he settled the two lawsuits.ok here we go, just pointed facts of error. not an entire list, but it will help you get what logical sense should allow.
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It was not a secret for so long. It was not at all. This was national news in the sports world when it happened and back when he released his book and was sued for the NDA. but King sensationalizes it to make it look like a cover up - in essence he simply lies by omission. which is not factual. had he looked in to this more, he'd have seen it.
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This paints her a martyr, almost.
also. please take special note about her nickname bumper. she has been the victim many times in her life. i guess its just coincidence. and than going to the crisis center was just bizzare, i personally believe.
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Odd that in this article he is a grown man at 19 years old.
but in this Shawn King article a 19 year old is just a teenager.
sensationalism.
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Wild speculation on some parts, but mostly, and completely wrong. therefore a major error.
it was already in the public light, the public knew of the incident in 1996. and again in 2001/02.
she was let go from a position and never sued florida southern - the premier flagship of sports in the NCAA? was there more at play? according to what i remember, yes. she has been a bit of a thorn about whining and hard to work with - though, professionally quite talented.
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Until last week he had never heard of Jamie Naughright.
and what is not mentioned is she probably does not have to work anymore due to the probably +$1mm in settlement she got.
again, the truth and errors are not just about flat out bold faced lies. it is much more than that.
The question isn't whether Manning should go to jail for what he did; the reason this is still relevant is that Manning makes tens of millions of dollars a year in endorsements, and probably will for years to come, trading on a squeaky clean image that, based on the FACTS cited by the author, appears to be utterly fraudulent.
I agree that it's poorly written, but the facts are pretty damning, and their impact is not much diminished by the likelihood that the writer has an agenda.It's crap journalism with unneeded ad hominem attacks... and yet he makes some good points.
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He has been asked repeatedly to identify an untrue statement in the article and we are still waiting. I'm guessing it won't happen.When you posted "what he wrote was not true," I thought clarification may be in order.
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He averaged 13 sacks/year for the first 3 years of the deal, and was the team's best run defender.
It was hardly a bad deal.
Correct. With all the awful free agent signings around the league the past five or six years, the Mario signing ranks as one of the better ones. And at the time, there were very few FAs who wanted to come to Buffalo at any price. Where else were they going to spend that money?
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It's a ridiculous argument. Does every defensive player who played in Buffslo the last 16 years suck since they never made the playoffs? And the fact that a few teams have made the playoffs with lousy QBs doesn't validate it.JJ Watt and the Texans made the playoffs with crap QBs in 2015.
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What are you talking about?yeah pick a bum at QB in the latter rounds always works, brilliant
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That's just silly. How many above average QBs has he played with?Really. People blaming Rex on Mario? How many playoff games has Mario won since joining the NFL?
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Fair enough. Maybe a more important and (for the Bills) relevant point is that teams don't generally win with a "run first" or "ground and pound" philosophy like the one Rex and Roman seem to want to install. For good teams now, the pass sets up the run by spreading the field and forcing the defense to play five defensive backs. As Badol has pointed out, there is an emphasis on big, downhill runners who can take advantage of defenses that sell out to stop the pass, as well as RBs who can catch and pass-block. OBD, as usual, is behind the curve.Yes I accept that isn't a big salary cap commitment but two second round picks in consecutive years is different to a New England position or Denver picking up CJ Anderson and plugging and playing.
I just think your position slightly over simplifies it and it is a bit more complicated than you are trying to portray. The team with the second highest salary cap hit the past two years when it comes to running backs have been Seattle who have been in the Superbowl. The general point that running backs both in terms of average salary and draft pick status have become less valued is a good one..... however, it is simply not true that all good teams now have a plug and play UDFA earning peanuts running the ball for them.
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And as I recall, he was a UDFA, which again bolsters the OP's argument.I was watching the Bronco season NFL replays all day. Cj Anderson is pretty good. hes like a much better Cj Spiller. not a HOF RB but not a slouch either. Hes pretty good at finding wholes and is great at the one cut and speed burst.
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Right, because lord knows drafting 19th (or 49th) there will be plenty of opportunities to pick a plug-and-play, sure-fire star QB, so let's just wait until one of those guys falls to us before we draft a QB. Great strategy.just say no to "potential"
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The edge rushers Ware and Miller are superior, and the Denver LBs are better, It is also debatable our corners are as good. JMO
Not to mention the enormous advantage the Broncos have at Defensive Coordinator.
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Carey is not the one who was wrongAs usual whatever Mike Carey says is wrong
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correctWhat a joke.
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if Sully had actually thought about it in terms of managing a staff, would you utilize Rex's strengths better bonding with Richie in Hawaii who they really need to sign to a reasonable FA deal - and potentially bond with other FAs from other teams for now or in the future - or evaluating college players during practice? I know where I'd send him if I were Pegs.
To me, the idea that the head coach shouId play little or no role in scouting potential draft picks is counterintuitive and I suspect most of those who say otherwise do so out of an anti-Sullivan reflex reaction. It would be interesting to know if most other HCs were kicking it in Hawaii (or some other beach resort) last week, or working with their teams' scouting departments in Alabama. Without that information, it's hard to know whether Rex deserves to be criticized for slacking off during a critical part of the offseason, or not.
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Julio jones, aldon smith, Tyron smith, Robert Quinn, cam jordan... we could go on for a while, that draft was amazing
J Jones was drafted the year before.
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I come away with a different conclusion, that its not worth it for most teams. Only 10 teams averaged more than 1 point per two point conversion attempt.
The Bills averaged .8 points per two point conversion, while Carp averaged .89 points per extra point attempt.
I don't think that is sufficient data. I think you would need to look at 2-point conversion rates over at least three years to come up with a league-wide percentage. Individual teams don't attempt enough two-pointers to reach very meaningful conclusions. I'm guessing the Bills attempted less than 10 two-point conversions, which is a small sample size and not a very good indicator of what would have happened if they attempted, say, 30 two-pointers.
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No. The math says it won't. If it was as easy as you think, every team would do this.
Yes, the math says it will. Read the posts above, esp. by Dorkington. As to your second point, that is just plain wrong. Coaches (foolishly) ignore solid analytics all the time.
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The Bills' return game (both punts and KOs) was awful this year. It would make a lot of sense to draft a WR who can do one or both--as well as catch passes, of course. That's another reason I would love to see them draft Bralon Addison of Oregon. He is an excellent return man, especially on punts (3 PRs for touchdowns in last two seasons, and an average of around 13 per return), and a highly productive WR.
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League wide:
Teams averaged 0.957 points per attempt when attempting 2 pt conversions.
Teams averaged 0.942 points per attempt when attempting extra points.
This is the critical data and should be enough to convince teams to at least consider going for two more regularly, if not all the time. And it seems possible that a team could improve its success rate by coming up with, and practicing, a well-conceived two-point conversion package. And of course teams with kickers like Carp would benefit even more. I'm not optimistic though; this is a "play-not-to-lose" league and most coaches would be afraid of the mindless criticism from fans and announcers if the scheme doesn't work once or twice.
I'll just quote myself, because its the last post of the first page, and I think it's an important data point.
Another data point I would like to see is the success rate when the two-point play is a run, instead of a pass. I believe the success rate is significantly higher with running plays. And you don't have to look only at this year. Two point conversions have been available from the same location for many years, so there is plenty more data available. I'm just too lazy to track it down.
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Not the point. The question is, "How many games could have been won by going for 2 instead of kicking?" Answer is, "a lot." Just ask Green Bay fans.Other than Sunday, how many games have your eyes seen that were lost because of missed PATs this year?
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I would think so. I'm not sure, but I think the stats also show that running plays are far more successful than passes when going for 2, which should help a team like Buffalo.Don't you have to figure that the numbers would be altered for a team that regularly goes for two (and theoretically becomes better than average at doing so?)
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what a moron. Denver is only a 4-point underdog right now. Hardly a mismatch, although I would definitely take the Panthers and give the points.Watching NFL Live on ESPN. The topic of the Broncos being over matched vs the Panthers and possibly being the worst Super Bowl opponent ever came up. Jaws was quick to say that was an overreaction and that the Bills lost 4 Super Bowls in a row so clearly one or more of those teams would be it.
First he took sides with Bon Jovi and now this. Any chance we can ban Jaws from Buffalo for life?
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It's an idea that both deserves serious consideration and will never happen. The stats I have seen are that the 1point conversion rate this year was 95% and two point try rate for last 3 years is about 48%, so statistically it's close to a push, but this is a "play not to lose" league so don't expect any bold moves in this area by NFL head coaches.http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-two-point-conversion-statistics/2015/
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/kicking/position/defense/seasontype/2
The stats are somewhat limited as far as 2 pt conversions go (Pitt was 5 for 5 and other teams showed great success) but why not forget about extra points next year?? Is a 30 yd field goal for 1 point really all that important?? Yes, I know, the Pats lost the AFC Championship game because they missed an extra point. But we missed approx 15% of our extra points this past season. I'd be interested to see if we would have won 1 or 2 more games if we had attempted 3 or 4 two pt conversions with 50% success rate in a few games (Eagles, Jags, Giants??)
Dan Carpenter may be a head case but he was clutch last year. I don't think we need to take up another roster spot With a kickoff specialist. Keep Carp for field goals and train Schultz to kick off like the kid in Indy (McAfee). In the off season, come up with 10 solid 2 pt conversion plays and forget about the extra points.
Just my opinion.
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There are similarities between adams and TT but Adams is nowhere near the running threat TT is. He is shifty and elusive but not fast; not a guy you really want to design running plays for.I just mentioned this, vernon adams jr on the shoutbox. he played off the wall that game. anyone seen his other games? that would be a good draft pick for our current coaching system and the NFL QB dual threat evolution
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About as good a top five as you will ever see. And don't forget AJ Watt, who went 11, and Muhamad, who went to the Jets near the end of the first round.I wanted Cam Newton, Von Miller, Marcel Dareus, Patrick Peterson, and AJ Green in that order. Absolutely loved the first three.
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